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The reason why people are disappointed with not trading for Murray is he didn’t make a lot and we wouldn't have given up major assets for him. We could easily have him Franz, Suggs, and Banchero without worrying about the luxury tax and keeping most of our picks. Murray makes half of what Paul George makes for example. When are we going to make a move for a ball handler like Paolo wants? We also need way more shooting. These our grown men I don’t care if they aren’t choir boys as far as your locker room point. The off-season isn’t over so I’m not glass half empty yet but so far this has been disappointing. A lot of teams are passing us in The East in my opinion.

Can’t believe the price is takes to get like a tier 3 star in this league, and even that might be generous for Mikal. I’m hoping our fun starts tonight. I’m very much on the side of we have to use our assets and cap freedom while we can this off-season. Standing pat tonight and adding another rookie that won’t crack the rotation is the wrong move. We saw a Pacers team that were better than be aggressive with trades and FA and make the conference finals. We can’t just sit and wait to grow this thing in house, it’s time for our Horace Grant signing. Go get PG or trade for Sexton, Garland, Dejounte or Trae.

KCP is a huge improvement at the starting 2 offensively, defensively and most importantly from an availability standpoint. I understand you’re disappointed in the off-season so far, but I fully believe we’re better now than we were 2 days ago and I’d love to hear an argument how we’re not.

We improved? How? KCP? I mean we basically just retained what we already had. How did we improve?

I still hope we sign Jones... and trade Cole :)

In each of his two seasons in Denver, Caldwell-Pope -- a career 36.9% 3-point shooter -- has eclipsed 40% from deep while also playing in 76 games both years. As a defender, Caldwell-Pope allowed a league-best 40.6% field goal percentage as the closest defender last season, according to ESPN Stats & Information research, while frequently taking on the toughest assignment. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40469675/sources-kentavious-caldwell-pope-finalizing-deal-magic

Where’s Moldy Hobo we you need him. Did some one say CP3? Lololol

No to Lauri. Yes to Sexton

Hopes and dreams. Yep that’s about it. To think our players on the roster right now will suddenly ALL become significantly better in six months is a pipe dream. Small market bs is just a f ing excuse. Last time I checked the owner is a mult-billionaire. He just doesn’t give a crap obviously about bringing a championship to Orlando. Just happy to fill the seats, no matter whose fans are sitting in them.

Murray price was probably even lower in the deadline last february, but even that package is not prohibitive at all, and could have easily being offered by our FO for a player that fits a lot of our needs. But probably guys like him are out of the radar for some character issues, or whatever. As always, too much evaluating and overthinking. CP3 train has passed by a lot of time ago, but if we're talking about a different deal then the ones mentioned for Klay&co., a much lower deal, I would still do it in a heartbeat. But I don't believe he's interested in a role of mentor/backup on a low salary.

Backup forward was a need, we only had 37 year old Joe Ingles to backup Franz. Shooting/spacing is also a need he helps fill.

What a terrible mistake that would be

Finally draft a 45% 3 point sniper and trade it away for a future 2nd. I think the myth of us being unpredictable can finally be put to bed. Weltman and Parker are as predictable as it gets.

We have so many bigger needs than Hartenstein. Use the cap space to actually address weaknesses and bring back Goga to back up WCJ. To me signing Hartenstein would be like Hennigan signing Biyombo to a huge deal when we already had Ibaka and Vucevic on the roster.

On one hand, TDS is the least raw player we’ve drafted in a long time and could slide into the Ingles spot in the rotation. On the other hand, I'm skeptical the 18th pick in this weak class will be an instant contributor when the 6 and 11 picks from a much better class last year had splinters on their butts from riding the pine all season. I get the excitement, and I’ll join in eventually, but need to see our next off-season moves before I make an opinion. We still have $50 million in cap space to make some noise with if we choose to, and we still have a glaring need for an offensive initiator.

We’ve had a ton of games to evaluate Suggs as PG and it was a disaster. Not sure why this is even up for discussion at this point.

It’s just the same thing every season for quite some time. Weaknesses not being addressed, opportunities being squandered. Just gets frustrating. We won’t have this kind of salary cap room for quite some time. We won’t have a lotto pick for quite some time. So what do we do? We sign a solid guy but essentially a younger slightly better version of Harris, then resign Harris which is funny as hell in a sad way, and then we retain Goga. Then every trade deadline we sit on our hands. It’s not that it isn’t flashy, it’s lazy as hell.

Free Agency brings everyone out! Hello, Catalina! haha

Only problem with it is it cements Suggs as PG, as there is now nowhere else to put him. I don’t believe Suggs is a good fit at all as PG. KCP is a substantial upgrade from Harris, but who’s going to be setting him up to take shots? Harris often would take very few shots, once ball went to Frantz or Paulo it wasn’t coming back. How is this going to change?

Call me crazy, but I like Jonas Valanciunas as much as I like Hartenstein. Valanciunas isn't as versatile defensively but he's basically been a starting big man in the NBA for the past decade and I think he'd be an elite bench big who could easily fill in for WCJ for the 30 games he misses. Lots of playoff experience. And he'd likely be half as expensive.

PG has been so outspoken on podcasts about how much he loves Mosley and Paolo. I’m strapped in. I think it’s happening… and if it does, it’s huge. Horace Grant in 1994 huge

Love to see other teams making moves we should do

I agree his ceiling is a very good backup pg, but he's better than anyone we currently have. I'd give him 3/$60M with the last year a team option. That should be enough time for us to decide what we have in AB.

I'm looking at it as a worse case scenario. What I'm hoping is that the FO thinks now is the time to make a big move and get us a very good PG to run with the starters.

i agree with you brother! I just said that the Nets would have the assets to get a deal done for Booker. OKC too. They have a truck full of picks.