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Who says Vooch has to be a star? If he remains a borderline Allstar, but is a good facilitator and maintains a double double; plays reasonable D, what’s wrong with that? I know 25mil is a lot, but it’s not max. He is a great teammate and mentor. We have an exciting young core that has perhaps a couple ascending stars or close to it in JI, AG and maybe Fultz. If that happens, we are good and then if Bamba shows in a few years; all the better as Vooch is on a deescalating contract.
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I know I know, man, it's 15 december if that hasn't changed recently, my post was quite ironic. Also, if we're (a bit more) serious, we should hope that Vuc mantain a good level until he's elegible for a trade. If he falls back to some lackluster phases he has in no-contract years, his salary could easily become a nightmare. In the real world, I doubt that they've resigned him just to make a trade later, in a Tobias Harris style a few years ago. Clifford clearly like to go play big, management was serious about getting back the same core... I hope they're seeing it right, especially long term, but at the moment I'm still full of doubts about our offseason and direction. BTW, that's no hating on Vucevic, I don't dislike him at all, I'm just convinced he's not a good piece to have in a contending team, and we should know him quite well in his 7 year career there, enough to not be fooled by a borderline all-star season.
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Yeah
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Yeah sumthin like it. Imma gonna get some.
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Gordon might get a team USA spot.
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?forthewin and I agree. This is a date that shall go down in infamy.
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I believe it's " hatin' "
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Stop hating on Vuc ya’ll. We have something going and we wanna run it back coz we are family. imma coming out this season. And my boy M and I are working out together. His shot is back.
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Vuc can't be traded for a while now. I think it's end of December off the top of my head but I'm sure other guys will have a more accurate date.
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2019 Offseason Thread
Originalticketholder replied to Bauncey Chillups's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
I am hoping for your confusion argument because it is perplexing. Easy answer for myself, after being pumped about drafting Okeke and his skill set in today's NBA, is sign Okeke and then Jeffries, to a 2 way deal (I think Magette is the only 2 way deal we have). If there is a medical concern about Okeke I cannot see the Spurs missing that which could void the trade. Or, maybe it is just about the money and the luxury tax implications. Have not heard from Okeke's camp but being the only unsigned first round pick, regardless of his injury, is not good optics. Welcome to the business world, Chuma. We need to get this right, soon! -
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Vucevic is exactly in this range, and they need bigs. Perfect situation! :P :P :P (wishful thinking)
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Yup
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Isn’t that Fultz interview sportscenter special supposed to air in July? We’re running out of month!
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It probably wasnt as much of a shock to NBA war rooms as it was to analysts. GM's are much more in tune with what's actually going on and how players are perceived than the analysts do. While analysts projected him that high, WeltHam probably recognized that NBA draft boards didnt have him that high and took the gamble that they could snag him in UDFA But like ?forthewin, I moreso agree that trading picks simply for cash is dumb. Because at that point you could draft a player and sign your guy in UDFA and have an asset to trade later. But trading it for a future pick to get your guy in UDFA and have an additional pick for a future pick is just smart business.
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They're almost the same damn player. Including Bamba makes no sense at all.
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You're right though. It doesn't make sense to sell off basketball stuff for money
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2019 Offseason Thread
Years of Tragic and Magic replied to Bauncey Chillups's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
He was projected by some as a late first or second rounder. Him going undrafted was a surprise. No one would've batted an eye if we took him with our second. I'm Happy we were able to snag him in UDFA, however selling our picks every year looks so small market. ?4thewin did correct me though. I guess we acquired a future second along with cash considerations. -
Would be interesting if it wasn't pretty much impossible to make happen. Hayward is a pretty interesting buy low candidate but there's no situation that's not a bad deal for us We'd have to send out a bit more than 26 million for the trade to work under the CBA but probably more like 28-29 million to avoid the hard cap. So look at the salaries we'd have to send out for him. Fournier and Bamba would be 22 million and change. So we'd have to send back a lot more. And he's not worth that.
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I disagree with this take. You don't just draft someone because they are there and you want them. If they are a player that is going to go undrafted, you maximize your assets by trading back, getting additional assets, and then getting that player at a lower cost. Just drafting them just because they are there is overpaying for your product.
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Whoa, I'm late to the party, but you do know that size isnt dependent upon your NBA status, right? The statements about Okeke's size are facts. He is of similar size to Draymond and Thompson. Nothing is being said to compare his playing ability to theirs, but size isnt dependent upon playing ability and accomplishments.
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Yeah, no way that’s happening. As we’ve discussed, I think if we’re dealing with Boston at all we’re talking something based around Bamba for Brown.
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Read something or somebody from CBS sports saying we are talking Hayward for Evan and Bamba. DELUSIONAL people
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Didn't we just gave Jefferson the last spot?
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So funny, Krish! It cracks me up every time you post that question, especially when I look at your avatar. At times, a fellow poster, 'The Boss', does the same to me when he says something funny while I'm looking at his avatar. Edit: What I mean by this is: You never say anything else (which is okay with me.) It reminds me of the movie "Are We There Yet?"
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Yeah. And really we might actually need okeke's money in a DeRozan trade so it'd make sense to sign him. There's no situation that fully explains the delay. Even if the plan was to stash him we'd have already done that too. Which means it's either confusion, maybe he's got a doctor's appointment coming up and we want to look at his updated medicals before we commit, or something inconsequential.
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