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  2. That is what I feel like I was seeing on defense too. He was moving and reacting, not hesitating. Post game really isn't important. He just needs to be able to do two things around the paint. 1. Finish baskets strong when he gets the ball, either because of an offensive rebound or a teammates pass (he really shouldn't be bringing it in himself.) 2. Pass the ball out quickly if there isn't anything available to him. His 3 point shot already gives him a nice weapon that other teams need to respect (especially if he can keep hitting at similar levels). I wouldn't expect him to ever have much of a post game. Very few guys do these days and he really doesn't have the body for it.
  3. Fultz4thewin

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    Dinwiddie has more drives over the past 10 games than Luka Doncic and a super high 32% usage as a starter which is higher than LeBron and would rank 8th in the league over the full season. He's a wishy washy shooter. He's not a good defender. If you can't see why that's a bad fit with fultz who gets almost 70% of his offense unassisted through drives and pull ups and has 25 total made field goals off ball in the half court this year I just don't know what to tell you. Dinwiddie is good. Dinwiddie almost entirely overlaps our most important player's role. It's incredibly dumb to give up a bunch of stuff to get him. It's one thing to have talented guys overlapping on your team and trying to make it work. It's a completely different thing giving up assets to obtain a guy that overlaps.
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  5. jmmagicfan

    Magic Vs. Suns - Wednesday, Dec. 4th at 7:00 P.M.

    I noticed that as well. I wonder if the game is beginning to slow down for him? If he starts picking these things up faster and seems to develop quickly over the next 5-10 games, we will know that the game has slowed for him; which would be a great signal. I remember when we saw that happen for Isaac - suddenly he seemed to develop a lot almost overnight because the game had slowed. Here's hoping!
  6. Fultz4thewin

    Magic Vs. Suns - Wednesday, Dec. 4th at 7:00 P.M.

    This is going to sound really dumb but the thing I noticed most was some point in the second half he got a rebound and whoever the point guard was was getting pressed and he just casually in one motion went to the second option (which was Gordon) as an outlet. It sounds like a completely unremarkable exchange but Bamba of two weeks ago stops, analyses the defense, judges whether or not he can pass the ball to the point guard because that's where it's supposed to go, panics a little searching for help because he's unsure if the pass to Gordon is dangerous because it's cross court. And it causes gordon to have to come back to the ball. And this whole thing wastes 4 or 5 seconds. Not this time though. Bamba gets the ball, DJ covered, quick decision to get the ball out there to Gordon. Little things like that are important.
  7. Magicpassion

    Magic Vs. Suns - Wednesday, Dec. 4th at 7:00 P.M.

    Good observation... I hope he focuses on playing within his game which imo is protecting rim and spotting at the 3 pt line. Keep it simple for now as he literally has no post game and the longer he holds the ball the more likely he turns it over; just move the ball for now and work on post in summer.
  8. Magicman28

    Magic Vs. Suns - Wednesday, Dec. 4th at 7:00 P.M.

    I look at the entire body of work. If at 27 Fournier just now gets it, it won’t be long until he loses it. I believe Fultz, like some of us said, puts him in his fitting role. Takes the ball out of his hands to create and instead lets a better fitting player create for him. Same with AG. My thing with AG though is, over the entire body of his work, with us having a limited amount of ways to improve mind you, it’s now is he worth keeping or better utilized as an trade piece?
  9. I was trying to watch Bamba on defense this game and, even taking away his blocks, he seemed to be moving well, putting himself in the right positions to take up space and almost always be between the ball and the basket. He seemed aware and active. On the offensive end, it looks like he still needs to work on his screening, but he at least makes some contact most of the time. His three point shot also looks pretty legit- it looks smooth and he looks confident shooting it. The biggest thing for him to improve right now, in my opinion, is his ability to keep the ball and not turn it over. He turned over the ball 3 times, and there were a few more times where he almost lost the ball. A lot of this comes from him grabbing an offensive rebound, or getting the ball in the paint, and bringing the ball down low. If he kept the ball high, he wouldn't have these issues as much.
  10. Fultz4thewin

    Magic Vs. Suns - Wednesday, Dec. 4th at 7:00 P.M.

    It depends. You have to throw out last year entirely. He was playing through injuries day one. And when he comes back you'll probably have to throw out this season too. People judge oladipo based on his 17-18 season as if that's who he is. As if the benchmark for his play when healthy is an efficient 23ppg with good to great defense with an impact that leads his team to 48 wins. That could be who he is. We don't have any evidence to say that's not who he is. It might be an outlier level season where he was just feeling good and everything clicked the right way longer than it has in the past. So we have no idea.
  11. Fultz4thewin

    Magic Vs. Suns - Wednesday, Dec. 4th at 7:00 P.M.

    We need to be patient with everyone. Gordon sucks for a few games and now two games later he plays so well that his shooting numbers are back up almost to where they should be. Bamba is starting to look fine. Ross is pulling out of his slump. Our offense has been league average over the past 15 games though that might be a little inflated by the last few games just like our overall numbers are still hampered by the first 5 games. Klay Thompson started last year in a shooting slump prompting a ton of "what's wrong with Klay" stories. By the end of the season he was back up part 40% on threes. Works the other way too. Fournier isn't going to keep shooting 45% from three. He might have an outlier level great season but there's only so much improvement a 27 year old is going to make that sustainable. Many posters on here lost their minds when Kendrick Nunn started the season averaging 22 over the first 5 games. Since that great start he's averaged 13 ppg on 41/31/60 shooting over the last 16 games. And it keeps trending further negative. This time last year Josh Richardson was the next superstar guard averaging almost 21ppg on 41% three point shooting. The rest of the season he averaged 15 on 33% three point shooting. This year he's averaging 16 on 38% three point shooting. I always say on here (so much that it's probably a cliche) that we can't be myopic. We can't base our opinions on what just happened. We can't "trade Bamba now before people figure out he's bad" we need a large sample to figure out what is real long term. People make snap decisions and build narratives way too fast. Kendrick Nunn is still "the favorite for rookie of the year" and it's going to take a long time to change the narrative.
  12. Magicpassion

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    I’ve been an Advocate of Spencer Dinwiddie, but the supposed experts on this board say he’s too much like Fultz to work and I disagreed. Apparently there are others out there that feel as I do. Since Irving's injury and Dinwiddie's addition to the starting lineup, he has averaged 24.5 points, 7.8 assists and 32.5 minutes. ... Spencer can play really well off the ball. He can play on the ball.5 days ago
  13. Just a regular Magic fan

    Magic Vs. Suns - Wednesday, Dec. 4th at 7:00 P.M.

    Agree. I am really pulling for him. It was nice to see him have an impact, so that he continues to gain confidence. Not trying to nitpick, but this is the type of game he should have considering the competition and his size. As with Vooch, he struggles against the bigger, stronger guys so when he has those matchups he may struggle until his lower body gets stronger. However, the lesson to be learned here -and one that Fultz4thewin keeps telling me (us) - is to be patient. The NBA is a big boy league, and for centers, it takes a while longer for them to develop and come around. He is working hard, and I am glad that we are starting to see some improvement. It gives me some hope that we will be able to keep him and not be forced to shuffle the roster so-to-speak.
  14. BBROSS

    Magic Vs. Suns - Wednesday, Dec. 4th at 7:00 P.M.

    I should've quoted the previous post that said Fourniers hated on beacuse he was kept over oladipo.
  15. magicdoc1

    Magic Vs. Suns - Wednesday, Dec. 4th at 7:00 P.M.

    This came out of nowhere..
  16. BBROSS

    Magic Vs. Suns - Wednesday, Dec. 4th at 7:00 P.M.

    Is Oladipo kinda overated? I mean hes only averaged over 20 ppg once in his career. He was named an allstar last year but i mean his numbers wernt that amazing 18 ppg on 42% fg.
  17. jec

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    We’re in the wrong timeline
  18. Justin Jaudon

    Magic Vs. Suns - Wednesday, Dec. 4th at 7:00 P.M.

    I suppose we should expect this from such a night-and-day team, but the night-and-day feeling of the fans here is fun to watch. Not five days ago AG was terrible, "what's wrong with AG?" was everywhere; not ten games ago Fournier was horrible, he needed to go, he was holding back the whole team; Ross was a trainwreck, we shouldn't have re-signed him; beginning of the season, Vuc was soft, shouldn't have re-signed him. I get it. I really do. But some of us need to recognize that a slump is sometimes just that. AG started in a slump (the whole team did), then started playing better and everyone laid off of him for a while. Then he got hurt, wasn't great on offense when he came back, and people were asking, "what's wrong with him?" I don't know; maybe he was coming off of an injury. Fournier was dominant in FIBA, so everyone was curious to see if he'd come out with that kind of confidence this year. He came out in a slump like everyone else (though, actually, he was our best player the first few games), so he was hated (he's kinda always hated here, but I think that might be partly that some of us hold it against him the team choosing him over Oladipo). The guy has been damn good more often than not this season, and we should recognize that. The only guys we all consistently get behind are Fultz and Isaac. We are an inconsistent offensive team. We have a ton of inconsistent offensive players. But I think we have a shot to make some noise this year so long as we don't play Toronto in the playoffs again (assuming we get there), and the whole team doesn't go cold at the same time again.
  19. Jay Magic

    2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

    Watching Lakers Vs Jazz and Dwight is out here hitting jumpers.. a 2 and even a 3 pointer wtf hahahaha.
  20. Gordon4thewin

    Magic Vs. Suns - Wednesday, Dec. 4th at 7:00 P.M.

    The future is bright yo
  21. Jay Magic

    Magic Vs. Suns - Wednesday, Dec. 4th at 7:00 P.M.

    Mo is a really nice kid. That's for sure. Really happy for him, long may it continue
  22. TrueMagicFan07

    Magic Vs. Suns - Wednesday, Dec. 4th at 7:00 P.M.

    Ahhh! I might be slightly behind, but Mo is being interviewed and he has the biggest smile on his face. That's so good to see. Go B3mB3!!
  23. TrueMagicFan07

    Magic Vs. Suns - Wednesday, Dec. 4th at 7:00 P.M.

    Uh huh! Don't ever bet against my DJ. :) He was interviewed at halftime and he admitted he needed to (in so many words) step it up.
  24. Jay Magic

    Magic Vs. Suns - Wednesday, Dec. 4th at 7:00 P.M.

    Good to know.. he can learn a lot off Gorbert
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