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So Fournier got in and all of the sudden we are down by 6.

I think in some ways this is our worst nightmare because we just locked down our roster for two years. Look around the league. Some teams are playing new guys big minutes because of injuries, some teams because of new coaches or low expectations.Look at Charlotte and Washington. Both those teams were cooked last year with high payroll and huge non productive contracts.Charlotte let Kemba walk and still had Batum,Biyombo and Gilchrist contracts. They acquired a few second round players and starting benching the under performers. Batum, Monk and Gilchrist are not getting minutes. Bacon, Graham and PJ are getting heavy minutes.The point is they made a few changes and it's working.I'm not saying they will have a better record then us later on, just that they made some changes. Same thing in Washington. Bertans and Bryant were sneaky good pick-ups.Wagner was an incredible easy trade swap. Troy Brown is a big guard looking good for them, as is Hatchimura. Both are from the last two drafts and look like they can put the ball in the basket. Do they have the ceiling of our last two rookies? Probably not, but they sure look like basketball players and not projects. Whole point of this is, when it comes to scoring the basket we are locked in to one archetype of player. Without Ross and Vooch getting hot, its really tough for us. Gordon, Isaac and Fultz are not offensive players.They might have an occasional big night, but it's really not their thing. Really wanted to find a gem like Devonte Graham, but we rounded out our roster with guys like Aminu,MCW,Bamba and Jefferson. Again, once the shots start falling we will overtake Charlotte and Washington in the standings.Look out though, because they both might have a better future just by being a little more flexible with their roster.Don't even get me started on the Hawks and Heat.

Fournier would start for several teams. He's not as bad as people think he is. However I don't understand why Fournier is unbenchable in games like last night when he's getting killed on both sides. And I don't know why we continue to run our offense through him when fultz, Gordon, and Vucevic are on the court.

horrible team to watch i feel even games we win will be depressing.

We’re not the last ranked offense in the NBA for nothing.

Trade Fournier to China for Jimmer. I’m serious

Refs had the right call and changed it. Christ. Once a joke. Always a joke.

That play should have been a goal tend. Noel interfered with the basket. Can't trust the ref to make any calls right for the Magic. SMH

I've said his whole career Fournier would be a great sixth man. I think he'd likely be better than Ross, because he CAN find different ways to contribute on offense. Ross is basically draining tough shots or actively hurting our offense.

Be nice if our 100 million centre would at least try and protect the rim

Maybe Okeke can save us! lol

The stats have never liked Fournier as a SF. Somewhat better offensively, but almost unplayable defending most SF.

Fournier is just infuriating to watch play

For us, when he was playing for Denver.

So much better when Fournier is not on the floor.

Nuggets (yeah, I get that Jokic isn't their top scorer right now; but he was last year when they dominated, which speaks to your point, since that's still modern NBA team, plus I suspect Jokic leads by the end of the year). How many teams are considered good? 10? if so, that's 2 out of 10 whose likely top scorers are centers. 5 positions means that's about right. 12? Still pretty darn close. 16? Of the 16 playoff teams last year, the top PPG was a center for 3 of those teams: Philly, Orlando, and San Antonio. 3 out of 16 holds that pattern, close enough. Minnesota looks pretty good early riding KAT. AD could certainly be the starting C for the Lakers and they'd still be good. The idea that the NBA isn't friendly to high-scoring centers is just wrong. You can have plenty of success in the NBA with your top scorer as a Center, even today. It's different than it used to be, true. Modern 5's have to be mobile, be able to pass and shoot, and they must be able to competently switch without getting torched every time. Vuc is good for most of that, but he's inconsistent with scoring and defending (he's never particularly good at defending, but sometimes he's survivable with the massive defensive talent that we can surround him with). I'm not a big Vuc fan. But Vuc has not been the problem early in the year. Yes, his %s need to improve. That's the whole team. Everyone is shooting like crap right now. If and when that changes, this team could go on a pretty big run. What's encouraging to me is that I haven't noticed the team as a whole getting lazy on defense when the shots aren't falling. That shows they know their identity is defense. That's exactly what I want to see.

It's called the Fournier effect. Google it.

Let’s be honest there is no point going for 8 th seed with this group. It’s just so *****in depressing. I hate this team so much

Whoever downvoted this post needs a lobotomy.

We are going backwards right in front of our eyes with Evan and Vooch. I’ll keep harping on about it but it’s soul destroying to watch. Get rid of them!!!!!

Tonight’s game hasn’t even started and I’m already angry at the thought of watching Fournier and Vooch. I just can not for the life of me stomach them as Starters, I might check out for a while I think

Thunder blew it up, lost their two best players and still have a better roster than us with a lot more young talent. Great start by Evan and Vooch. Gotta love it

Haha no ****

In the final minute, the refs will do whatever it takes to make sure OKC "wins" this game.

It’s got me *****ed. We’re gonna have to wait it out with him though cos there is no way another team will be dumb enough to trade for him