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  1. Justin Jaudon

    2021 Trade Deadline Thread

    Yep. I'm not a big fan of the trade, but I do still like Carter over Bamba.
  2. Justin Jaudon

    2021 Trade Deadline Thread

    Funny thing is I wanted Carter over Bamba.
  3. Justin Jaudon

    2021 Trade Deadline Thread

    Apparently Evan Fournier just invited any Celtics fans who weren't familiar with him to google his last name...that's just sick, but...I mean...they're Celtics fans. They kinda deserve it, right? Dude just caused more pain to the Celtics fanbase than the '09 playoff Magic.
  4. Justin Jaudon

    2021 Trade Deadline Thread

    So, obviously RJ Hampton has a ton of potential, but... I was never a huge fan. He's one of those guys who'll be a really good starter in three years or out of the league. He has things you can't teach, like speed and athleticism, but there's a reason so many teams passed on him. I guess he and Fultz will be fun on the break.
  5. Justin Jaudon

    2021 Trade Deadline Thread

    Yeah, that's...not a good haul.
  6. Justin Jaudon

    2021 Trade Deadline Thread

    Seriously, we can't trade Ross after that!!! Let this dude jack up 25 shots a game!!! I don't care anymore.
  7. Justin Jaudon

    2020-2021 Official Magic Season Thread

    Say what you will about the guy's late-game hero-ball and bad playoff play throughout the years, he has always had the right attitude you want in a player. He's tough, dedicated, and wherever he goes (if he actually goes) I'll root for him. Unless he somehow ends up a Laker. Then f&*% that dude, lol.
  8. Justin Jaudon

    2021 Trade Deadline Thread

    That I can understand. I was much harder on Elfrid Payton than I needed to be for similar reasons, I suppose. Interestingly, with AG, I might have been the most upset on the board when we drafted him. In college he didn't show any of the offensive versatility he shows now. It took a while before I saw his value as a player at all. It's really only the last couple years that I've tried to argue against trading him, mostly because I like how he fits defensively with Isaac, and when together they cover very well for Vuc's shortcomings. Not a lot of guys will fit that particular bill, able to switch onto guards and centers and recover fast enough to not blow up the defense. It's a niche skill, really, but for this team it is basically a must at the forward positions. I think that with Gordon and Isaac, a team staring Vuc at the C position can still be elite defensively. I don't think it's possible to have an elite defensive team around Vuc unless you basically replace Gordon with a guy who can do the same thing, which...isn't going to happen. So now, if we really do trade Gordon, we have to become elite offensively or move on from Vuc...and we aren't moving away from Vuc.
  9. Justin Jaudon

    2021 Trade Deadline Thread

    I don't get how Trent Jr is an upgrade for us at all. Fournier is a better player, and may not cost much more to re-sign, considering the trade market for him. He's younger, sure, but... I don't know, maybe I'm missing the boat here. He looks like a classic 6th man to me. Getting Trent and picks for Gordon would be okay, I guess, though not a trade I'd make. But Trent and filler. Selling Gordon for way too little
  10. Justin Jaudon

    2021 Trade Deadline Thread

    Okay, so we're going to try to justify claiming AG is not only a bust, but principally responsible for the team's failures throughout the years? Well, here goes: 1-What has AG ever done? - Since becoming a full-time starter in year 3: 15-6-3 on 44%-32%-70%, so starter numbers on offense with generally considered to be valuable defense 2-What has he improved on? - His offense, considerably. That's not opinion, that's statistics. not counting one outlier season last year: his 3-point % has gone up every year as a starter. His EFG% has gone up every year as a starter. His TS% has gone up every year as a starter. His AST% has gone up every year as a starter. His FTr has improved every year as a starter. So he's shooting more efficiently and getting to the line more. the only things he hasn't improved greatly since becoming a full-time starter are his ORB% and FT%. His TO% has generally hovered around the same as well, though this year is an outlier bad season, which can probably be attributed to having to literally play PG for a good portion of his minutes this year. 3-What has he done to warrant the never ending praise from some on this forum? - I'm not seeing that, at all, on this forum. Some people like Aaron, some REALLY don't (like, at an irrational level; my guess is mostly UK fans salty that we didn't pick Julius Randle, but maybe I'm wrong). Most do seem to think he's a pretty good NBA player, but that's hardly never ending praise. 4-AG is an Energy role player off the bench, nothing more. - That's literally untrue. He's started virtually every game he's played the past 4 1/2 seasons. If your contention is that he should be just a backup, a lot of GMs are rumored to disagree, considering they want to trade for him while he's making starter money. 5-No team playing AG and Evan big minutes will ever be a serious contender for a championship. - That's certainly an opinion, but I guess we'll see. Not sure how that makes AG a bust or nothing more than an energy backup. Danny Green has multiple championships playing big minutes. Hell, so does Mario Chalmers. And plenty of good players never played on a serious championship contender. John Wall hasn't sniffed championship contention; was he a bust? Brad Beal? LaMarcus Aldridge? 6-Virtually nobody outside of Orlando looks at AG the way you do. - Again, apparently a lot of NBA GMs see him as valuable enough to discuss trading for while making $18 million a year. 7-His shot is a joke - again, it has improved every year except for one really bad outlier. he's shooting nearly 40% from three this year, at the second-highest attempt rate of his career. Are you just not paying attention? 8-his defense is, and always has been, wildly overrated. - This is certainly an opinion, and except for the wildly part I get it. His numbers don't jump off a page. His value on defense comes from his ability to competently defend every position on the floor. His individual defense probably is overrated, though not wildly so (his DWS numbers are always positive, which is a good indicator that he's at least a positive defensive player). But his value defensively on a team is probably considered about where it should be. 9-he [is] a below average NBA player - This is a scorching hot take. It seems quite a few NBA GMs disagree, considering they're trying to trade for him while he's making good starter money. Statistically, his career PER is 15.4 which is...above average. As to the notion that he's a bust... that's a laughably hot take. Not only is a better player than at least one and probably two of the three players drafted ahead of him, he's a better player than all but three guys drafted in the top ten, maybe only two, depending on how you value Wiggins. So if we consider Wiggins better than him, Wiggins, Embiid, and Randle are better players, making him the 4th best player drafted top ten... hm, where was he drafted? How 'bout we compare him to other #4 picks in the last ten years. Tristan Thompson, Dion Waiters, Cody Zeller, Kristaps Porzingis, Dragan Bender, Josh Jackson, Jaren Jackson Jr, DeAndre Hunter, and Patrick Williams. Yeah, he's certainly been better than Waiters, Zeller, Bender, and Jackson (though Cody is underrated). Thompson I'd say is a wash with Gordon at best. Hunter and Williams seem good so far, but we'll see. Porzingis is so injury prone I think I'd rather have Aaron. so Jaren Jackson Jr is the only guy I'm sure I'd rather have than Aaron Gordon long term. Aaron sure doesn't look like a bust in that company. As to him being principally responsible for the teams failures over the years... well, he was a starter on two playoff teams in Orlando, and they looked pretty good this year until half the roster went down with injuries. Are you suggesting that without Aaron Gordon Orlando would have been contending for championships over the last few years? That Aaron Gordon somehow sabotaged Fultz and Isaac so they would blow out their knees?
  11. Justin Jaudon

    2021 Trade Deadline Thread

    I'm going to assume you were a bit drunk when you posted this.
  12. Justin Jaudon

    2021 Trade Deadline Thread

    Yes, we are all aware that you don't think AG is a good player. Apparently, a lot of GMs disagree, since he's got so many teams looking to trade for him. Exactly how those teams value him will be seen when we actually trade him. Of the things I said, some was opinion, some was fact, and some was simply what I would do in this situation. For the record, of the claims I made about Gordon himself: 1 - Gordon is indeed under contract through next year (that's just true, no ifs ands or buts); 2 - I have certainly never heard anything negative about his locker room presence, but if you have you're welcome to clarify how that part isn't true; 3 - Gordon being one of the most versatile players in the league is not really a hot take, considering the things he's done at an acceptable level since arriving in Orlando (defensive stopper and rebounder early on, then a decent third option offensively, then a sometimes point-forward, full-time defensive stopper), but you're welcome to disagree; 4 - he's shown this year he can be a better shooter and handle playing SF without dribbling the air out of the ball like he did when we tried him there years ago, so I'm not sure why he couldn't play with Isaac, especially since it worked well enough before he was shooting this well; 5 - he's been on the trading block basically since the current management got here, and there have been rumors every year that multiple teams want him, so why would next year be different? It's fine if you disagree with the crux of what I was saying, that we shouldn't trade Aaron Gordon for just a good 6th man. That's an opinion, and you're welcome to your own. Again, you've clearly had a negative opinion of Gordon since we drafted him, and you've been plenty vocal about it. That's fine. The Dude abides, and all that. But your comment seems to imply that the reasoning behind my opinion is not just bad opinion, but untrue. Again, at least one point isn't up for debate. The rest could still all be true and Gordon could still be on the trading block. Indeed, at least a good portion of that being true is probably why so many teams are interested. I didn't say he was an All-Star, or anything like that. Your comment just reads like petty sniping at Gordon (and by extension me, for valuing him more than a good 6th man), but that's nothing new. I guess one good thing about Gordon leaving will be not having to read these types of bizarre comments whenever Gordon is discussed on here.
  13. Justin Jaudon

    2021 Trade Deadline Thread

    If all you can get for Aaron is a good 6th man, you can't trade him. He's under contract, I seriously doubt he's a problem in the locker room, and he's one of the most versatile players in the league. The Idea that he and Isaac aren't compatible has to be put to bed at this point. If Trent Jr. is all you can get, keep him and hope you can make him happy next year. If he's still asking for a trade, next year's deadline is likely to bring just as many suitors if not more. No rush.
  14. Justin Jaudon

    2021 Trade Deadline Thread

    I don't get this much love for Trent Jr. honestly. Jones and Collins are not particularly valuable pieces. Collins is injury prone and Jones is... fine, I guess, though he's getting paid twice what he should. So you REALLY like Gary Trent Jr. which I don't understand. He's basically a younger, less athletic version of Ross. So...trade AG to Portland for two okay backups and a really good backup. I mean, it's not the worst trade idea, I guess...
  15. Justin Jaudon

    2021 Trade Deadline Thread

    I'm going to say something I never thought I would. I'm fine with re-signing Fournier if it's at the right price. At this point, it's clear we're trading Gordon. I wouldn't do it that way, but the writing has been on the wall for a while. That makes Fournier affordable at the right price, so long as we don't take any real long-term salary back for Gordon. If Fournier can be had for 18 a year, I don't see any other guys who can give you his production at that price. And this team is going to need scoring, badly. Look at the guy's numbers. He has, much like his buddy Vucevic two years ago, built himself into a really solid starter. He's not a horrendous defender (usually, as long as you don't try to play him at SF), and statistically he's as good as Vuc was two years ago at the same age. In this scenario, I'm obviously still praying for Cade in the draft. He can play point forward and Isaac can move to his natural PF, we can run a lineup of Fultz/Fournier/Cade/Isaac/Vuc. That's a very competitive group when healthy. Is keeping Fournier long-term my first choice? No. But the last couple years he's earned a bit more love. AT THE RIGHT PRICE. And if he figures the playoff thing out like Vuc apparently did...
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