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I don't buy it. The Spurs were high on Okeke and were rumoured to be the team that would have taken him if Orlando hadn't. He would have gone in the first round anyway. It also looks terrible if you try and get a rookie to take 80 percent if it's not already been agreed before he is picked. You just don't do it. It's rather puzzling why the contract hasn't been signed yet though.

Nope, only reason I can see is to stash him for a year to help stay under the cap

It isn't. I think the FO let him see if anyone would offer him a contract for back up minutes, I think they would have let him go if there had been interest tbh, didn't happen so he's had to settle on a third string deal for us for very cheap. Bad for him great for us as it gives us good depth if one of Vooch or Bamba go down this year. He is 100% third string and I have no doubt he'll have been told that if re-signed here. Should hopefully keep Bamba honest though. Because WCS is bad. Arguably the worst center last year for rim protection, people on these boards moan about Vooch in that department, he is a whole other level. Non entity on the offensive end, effort issues etc etc. Only decent quality he has is that he can deflect in the passing lanes and is athletic enough to deal with switches ok. He just hasn't developed whatsoever. Third string big, nothing more, nothing less.

I'm confused . . . Why is someone posting 3 random boxscores of someone that played 81 games?

Nah Barnes is an overpay for sure. 21.25 a year

I'm shocked at how bad some of the contracts are; Harris 5/180, Middleton 5/178 Randle 3/63, Horford 4/109, Barnes 4/85, Rubio 3/51, Rozier 3/58 . Some really good deals out there too but those 7 really stand out as overpays.

The AG deal is great, Tobes on 36 per year is crazy and then you consider Rozier is on what 19 per year now?

You're not crazy no. Little reason to stretch him and we will only be marginally over the luxury tax once we add the remaining 2 way/min contracts and remove Birch's cap hold as I don't see him re-signing with us.

Don't get me wrong, he's a decent player and 10 per isn't going to impact us massively. He'll see a lot of time as the main backup for the 4 this year and will be pretty solid as a starter if Gordon goes down but next season you have Okeke as well so that's quite the log jam, it's just puzzling with it being a 3 year deal. Has to mean Fultz is good to go right??? I'm praying Fultz is good to go so bad.

Still confused. Tells me they don't see Okeke playing at all next season and think Fultz is good to go? Trying to think of a reason for this signing and can't lol

Sigh. Yes, grading Vooch at an F on the season is great common sense . . . .

Ok, I'm really lost with the aminu signing, that's essentially 3 years wth the PO . . . .

Pretty much this, they targeted Vooch and Ross when he came in too knowing full well they were our only offensive options. The only player that did enough to make up for that was Gordon, everyone else struggled to make any sort of impact offensively.

So in other words you're talking nonsense. Thanks for clarifying.

Your exact words were; " we had a center who was a much better defender in just his rookie year." He averaged 16 minutes a game, played just 45 games and was up against bench players or end of bench guys where in many situations the game was already decided. You linked a fluff piece that showed no comparision between him and Vooch. To say Bamba was a better defender than Vooch last year is flat out nonsense. He would have been eaten alive going up against starter level centres and that's not even getting into how bad offensively he was. Which was very very bad . . . . I've not been a fan of Vooch and would prefer we didn't resign him but some of the hate he gets on here is a mixture of ridiculous and nonsense. Especially considering he was actually very solid defensively for us all year. https://www.orlandopinstripedpost.com/2019/5/26/18639691/season-in-review-nikola-vucevic-final-grade See, I can link things that say a player is great defensively too.