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And we’re not trading Gordon
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2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread
Jay Magic replied to Fultz4thewin's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
Hopefully he starts to play like the 31 T Ross from last season -
2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread
Fultz4thewin replied to Fultz4thewin's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
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2019-2020 Official Trade Ideas Thread
Fultz4thewin replied to Soul Bro's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
Portland isn't trading McCollum - Today
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Big boy trade: Fournier and Gordon for McCollum, Hood and Collins Edit: I’d rather have McCollum over Russell or Wiggins. I’m also a big fan of Collins.
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I”m at the point that I would take absolute anything for Vooch. Just so we can get off him. I like that minny trade. Least would give us some hope going forward
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2019-2020 Official Trade Ideas Thread
Fultz4thewin replied to Soul Bro's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
You don't think we could flip Vucevic today for Chandler Parsons if we wanted to? Or biyombo? Or Mahinmi? Or Tyler Johnson? We could get out of Vucevic today if we wanted to. There's no way we're stuck. -
2019-2020 Official Trade Ideas Thread
fan for too long 2 replied to Soul Bro's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
We are stuck with the same buddy ball for the last four years. Yep u say we are in some easily changeable position but never do. Insanely backing our new management as if they have done something innovative. -
2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread
Captain replied to Fultz4thewin's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
Had this same thought last night -
2019-2020 Official Trade Ideas Thread
Fultz4thewin replied to Soul Bro's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
Nah. We're not stuck yet as we sit today. Uncertainty is scary but we're fine from a long term perspective. Short term is the ****ty part. -
We're "kind of stuck" either way. And that's a nice way of putting it
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2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread
andrew2018022 replied to Fultz4thewin's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
Not quite sure how to embed this tweet but its a take I found interesting. What do you guys think? -
2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread
andrew2018022 replied to Fultz4thewin's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
Wonder if Bamba is smelling some blood in the water with Vucevic's recent play? -
2019-2020 Official Trade Ideas Thread
andrew2018022 replied to Soul Bro's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
I would do this trade 100%, I trust our staff more than Minnesota's and no championship team becomes a championship team without taking risks. Although this risk isn't that bad since it would at the very least get us off of Vooch's contract -
You trade for Wiggins if you think the combination of Clifford and the player development system and culture you have can unlock that next level for him. If he doesn't reach that you are just kind of stuck.
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2019-2020 Official Trade Ideas Thread
Fultz4thewin replied to Soul Bro's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
I do watch them play. Do you? That's Wiggins issue. It's why people call his contract untradable and compare him to Rudy Gay. The highs are there but so are the lows so any trade for him is a gamble that you can get more highs and coach the lows out of him. You see the box score from last night where he had 36 points and a near triple double where he shot 70% from 3 before a last second heave and he's tantalizing. But you're ignoring the 3 game stretch from earlier in the month where he averaged 10ppg on 29% shooting and 14% from 3. He puts up duds regularly and his team is on pace for 26 wins and have lost 10 of their last 11 games. So you have all the weaknesses of Fournier's worst at a max contract level salary. But there's a ceiling that's interesting. That's the gamble. To act like there's not a gamble is ignorant to what Wiggins actually is right now. -
2019-2020 Official Trade Ideas Thread
fan for too long 2 replied to Soul Bro's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
Plus Wiggins is only 24 years old. -
2019-2020 Official Trade Ideas Thread
fan for too long 2 replied to Soul Bro's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
Seriously watch them play. Are they the same? Stats don’t tell the whole story Mr. moneyball. -
2019-2020 Official Trade Ideas Thread
fan for too long 2 replied to Soul Bro's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
But the cap rises every year so really not that detrimental. -
2019-2020 Official Trade Ideas Thread
Fultz4thewin replied to Soul Bro's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
Here's fournier's numbers last year vs Wiggins' numbers this year. Almost identical with the exception of minutes and field goal attempts http://bkref.com/tiny/wUQN7 Would you think the problem we had last year was Fournier didn't shoot 6 additional times per game? -
2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread
fan for too long 2 replied to Fultz4thewin's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
What really is pissing me off about Clifford is that he never takes any blame for this team’s failure. The one thing I liked about SVG was that he would blame himself when the team played poorly. But Clifford seems to be perfect in his own eyes. This will inherently be destructive and promote finger pointing between players. -
Vuch in his last year 2023 will make 22 million. Wiggins same year, will make 33 million. One goes down, the other goes up. Not the same.
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2019-2020 Official Trade Ideas Thread
Fultz4thewin replied to Soul Bro's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
If we resigned Fournier to a 4 year 122 million contract and then his shooting dropped to career lows would you think it's a worse contact than Vucevic's? -
2019-2020 Official Trade Ideas Thread
fan for too long 2 replied to Soul Bro's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
How is Wiggins contract worse than vooch? They are basically making the same amount. I’m not versed on cap bs, but I would take Wiggins over Vooch any day and twice on Sunday. -
Oof. Idk man....
