CRAZY SERB

quote: Originally posted by Mooooooooooves:I know I'm in the minority here, but I'd do it if I thought T-Mac would stay healthy. I'm not sure if there's too many players who want/need to get some playoff series wins more than him. I've always liked him and with the management of our team at the time, it was hard to blame him for wanting out, he had to do it all every night. Plus, the biggest incentive with this is Lewis' contract. It would never happen, but I'd be excited if it did. hmm, the worst contract in the league and probably the worst PG in the league who has a horrible deal by himself for an allstar SF who already past his prime but is still very good when healthy? you're definitely not in the minority here. this is a slam dunk for the magic but the rockets GM would probably need police protection if he agrees to that deal

quote: Originally posted by BLUEHEART:so tell me this then, which big 3 will be better howard,shard,battier(nelson) or mcgrady, yao,hedo think about first before u trade... interesting... i'd say houston should be better but the diffenence would make the matchup lewis - tmac and not hedo - battier. but no, i wouldn't take that deal. yeah, we'd become much better on defense but we'd lose our only playmaker. who should run our offense? jameer? definitly not. that's the reason i laught at kramer's comment that jameer is better then hedo. hedo is even better at playmaking than jameer and actually that should be meer's job.

How long have you been a fan of the Magic? since 2000, so 7-12 years What brought you to the Magic? i don't know. i always liked the city of orlando (hate big markets like LA or miami) and the team. i remember back then in 2000, grant hill signed for orlando. he's not the reason but i voted for "Specific player" Out of the most polarizing Magic players, which is your personal favorite? tough one, voted for jj If the player you selected above were to leave this summer via trade or free agency, you would: BYE BYE!!! i'm a little bit sad that i'm the only serbian who stayed on this boards after darko left. How many Magic games to you attend per season? none, i'm 5396.8 miles away from orlando

quote: Originally posted by FloridianaJones: quote: how bout turk for 13 and webster. and 22/jj for 15 or 16. come home with speights or arthur and rush. i would probably pack a mortar into my fuzzy little Stuff figurine and light the fuse. wo wo wo, turk is worth way more than that. give a turkish man more credit for having 3 triple doubles, 3rd in 4th quarter scoring and most improved player award. cmon! well, it's not that hedo is 22yo who's locked up with a nice longer deal. he's a 29yo SF who'll probably become a FA next summer. and he'll demand $10mill per year for at least 4yrs. $40mill for a 30yo - doesn't look that great anymore. i wouldn't do that deal if i was the portland GM

of we can win it all next year. this team would be "the team to beat" if otis somehow keeps howard and trades for chris paul, kevin martin, tay prince, chris bosh and some solid backups like sheed and barbosa. but no, pieces like maggette, pietrus or kurt thomas and a rookie picked in the 20s won't make us a contender.

quote: Originally posted by hessman22:Every PG on that list besides udrih would be a step down from Jameer fixed

quote: Originally posted by star_phenom35:WOW!!!!!!!!!! The Nuggets' fans' heads are too FARRR up their @$$es LMAO! I asked them about JR Smith and the possibilties of him coming to Orlando in a sign and trade, they said he's "UNTOUCHABLE" and the only way we'd get him is if we offered DWIGHT HOWARD =|!!!! said he's the 2nd coming of Michael Redd =|!!! Dummb@$$ fans like these really grind my gears! to be honest, if i was the nuggets GM the only player i'd trade smith for is dwight. let's be honest, we have only 2 players with some trade value - dwight and hedo. and if i had to choose between jr and hedo, i'd take jr. as a nuggets GM of course.

we should offer them hedo and battie for wade and #2. you know, riley always had a great C on his team (wilt, zo, shaq,...) and right now they are pretty weak on that position. battie would be the perfect fit for them. and hedo is the MIP and he almost was an allstar, every team just dreams about hedo in their jersey. on the other side, the 2nd pick hasn't proved anything yet so it doesn't have much value and wade hasn't proved anything yet without shaq. he needs a big man like dwight to be effective. i think it's a fair trade for both sides. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!

quote: Originally posted by UCF Twinz:Also we do not currently have a second round pick. I think we are Haslem and a decent sg away from contending with the top of the east. We need a pf that can shoot a mid range jumper. yes a sg, a pf that can shoot a midrange jumper and i'd also add a solid PG to that list. and btw, to the OP... williams can't be part of a package because he'll be a FA

quote: Originally posted by cunningstunt:are people from this forum getting together to watch the draft? last year we all were in the chat. i guess we can do that again

quote: Originally posted by jack l j:trade him for a pg.jacklj

quote: Originally posted by MAGICFAN4EVA1:I think all of our free agents will leave except Dooling, bogans. Foyle will opt out. Then we move Turkoglu down to SG and Lewis to SF. In the draft we get a SG to back up Turkoglu like Brandon Rush or if turk doesnt work out in preseason at SG we move him to sf and lewis PF. Then we sign Jason williams and trade for Haslem. That trade would include signing and trading arroyo, just trading JJ Redick, and our 2nd round pick. If Miami picks rose that means there going to keep haslem and i think we should trade for Smith from Atlanta. Magic would have a dominating lineup and that will fill the spots and make our bench very defensive. We could even sign pietrus with our MLE and that is a 50/50 chance. sorry mate but that's just horrible lewis GUARDED (i won't say that he played out of position because he DIDN'T) the whole season power forwards and now you try to fix that problem with moving hedo to a different position. no, he'd get killed at SG. second, i think the haslem trade won't work. you can sign and trade a player but you can't package him with another player. and btw, the heat won't do it. riley would demand dwight howard for haslem. don't part with pat riley if you are magic gm oh, and you said that we should trade for josh smith (the #2 option!?) as if it was for jerome james lol. he's going nowhere and if he really gets signed and traded there's is no way he ends up in orlando or at least there's no way he ends up in orlando playing with dwight howard.

quote: Originally posted by Nyce_1:If we trade Turk, we have to get a play-making player to replace that skillset he provided. Gordon doesn't do that for me. I would only trade Turk if Mayo was still available. As far as the NY garbage, I hate Curry, Zach is a BLACK HOLE like never seen, but I'd take Crawford in a heartbeat. To comment on your trade proposal, I don't think we get fair value in return. If they add Lee, we throw in Franny. OR, we just keep JJ and try trading him for a later 1st round pick. yes, i agree... if we trade turko for randolph we wouldn't have any playmakers on our team. jameer isn't a playmaker and he'll never be one. everybody who understands the game of basketball can see that (well, otis can't see it). i still would rather trade him for hinrich but ok. i hate zach randolph and i think he really sucks but i'd definitly take him over eddy curry, a soft, fat big man with heart problems and no insurance who like randolph doesn't play any defense at all. and they won't trade crawford with #6 for sure. they can dump that one year without giving up picks or talent. but randolph-lewis-nelson would be scary... for the magic. none of them can't play any defense. we'd probably be the worst defensive team in the league. with the 6th pick i'd definitly take russel westbrook over gordon. westbrook can play PG while gordon is just a much better version of jameer nelson. i also could see westbrook becoming something similar to chauncey billups. and as D-BoFats said, there's no way the knicks trade lee for hedo just to get rid of randolph let alone the 6th pick. i wouldn't do it either. but maybe they could sweeten the deal with balkman or maybe even chandler.

quote: Originally posted by MAGICFAN4EVA1:we dont need another point guard. we have a PG? anyway, we don't have the pieces (besides dwight) to get billups. rasheed... maybe but unlikely.

quote: Originally posted by Mr Charisma: quote: Originally posted by CRAZY SERB:guys, you have to ask yourself first if and why the other team would do it. Could you please post this sentence in about 98 of the last 100 threads that have been started? sure hehe

quote: Originally posted by D-BoFats:Okay, I've given this a lot of thought, and I think the best thing the Magic could do on draft night would be to trade Hedo Turkoglu, J.J. Redick, and the 22nd pick to New York for David Lee, Jared Jeffries and the 6th pick. no mate, the best thing the magic could do would be to trade for paul, bosh, prince and artest but it won't happen

guys, you have to ask yourself first if and why the other team would do it. can they use the players they get back, will they miss the players they lose, do they get rid of a bad contract, can they get a better deal,... portland easily declines. KP is no idiot, he knows that rakovi? won't ever come to the NBA, their this year's 2nd rounder will be higher than the magic' future 2nd rounder and that kopponen has much more value than that.

i like it but i doubt this will really happen

quote: Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery: quote: Originally posted by CRAZY SERB:isn't a ballhog like lebron Lebron finished the season ranked 8th in assists on a team that shot an awful percentage. so?

really? isn't it on 12th of july or something?

quote: Originally posted by Levation1331:You guys are really overating prince, and underating how much Hedo helps them. Prince is an amazing defensive player, but he disapears in too many games, his offense is inconsistent, and lets face it, he gives them their most tradeable asset to improve. really? i'd have the feeling that he's VERY UNDERRATED. + DEFENSE height + wingspan athletism shooting ballhandling hasn't missed a game yet (besides his rookie season where he wasn't a rotation player yet) point forward - killerinstinct if i'd have to create the perfect team prince would be a lock at SF. yes, i'd pick him over the lebron's and melo's. not that he's better but he's a much better TEAMplayer than both of them. ha has good ballhandling skills but isn't a ballhog like lebron

quote: Originally posted by ThisIsTheYear: quote: Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery: quote: Originally posted by WPMagic:Guys! Guess what?!? I heard today that Tracy McGrady doesn't want to play for us anymore! I'm thinking for the draft that this Shaquille O'neal guy has got to be a lock. But if we took Mourning, I guess it'd be ok. That's assuming that the city of Orlando actually receives an expansion team. If we do, we can choose from "Heat", "Tropics", "Juice", and "Magic". Personally, I would go with Heat, or even Tropics. But if we get stuck with the other two... if portland drafts that jordan guy their GM has to be fired... bowie's going to be a beast while jordan is a nice offensive player but nothing special, he can't carry a team for sure... dude, he can't even shoot, a SG who can't shoot? no thx

quote: Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:A borderline allstar, an expiring, JJ, and 2 firsts for a fading allstar turned roleplayer with an expiring contract whose value is at its lowest after no showing in the conference finals and then embarrassing himself in the press afterwards? Wow. You could negotiate trades for Orlando, and I mean that in the meanest, most loathing way possible. That is the single dumbest trade idea I've read on this board in months. At worst, I'd add a future 1st(09) on our end to my original trade idea, but the fact remains that Detroit wants to get rid of Sheed, and not many teams will be willing to touch him after his outburst in the press. They won't get much, Turk is better than Sheed at this point, AND they need someone who can play as a legit center, which as horrible as he is, Battie can do. ok, this was a little bit to much but i'm sure the pistons would ask for something like that. if i was the magic GM i'd try to NEGOTIATE the best deal with the other team and if i think that my team would have a better shoot at the championship i'd do it and if not, i'd hang up the phone like dumars did it with kupchuck after asking him what he wanted for kobe. and the pistons have zero interest in battie. he'd never start or get some minutes in detroit. they already have ratliff who is better than battie and he's barely playing. yes, theo might be old and injury prone but battie is 32, has bad knees and just missed the whole season

quote: Originally posted by Kberto:The Spurs have won 4 titles in the past 10 years. I think they deserve a break for losing from time to time. We got dominated by a team without their best player. I think it's only fair to throw some blame around don't you? We had a great year, but there's nothing wrong with a little criticism every once and awhile. i agree with you you have to cheer for your team if they won 4 titles in the last 10yrs and if they are the team of the decade. they are getting old and maybe this was their last run for the title. the fans probably wanted to say "Thank's" to the team just for the case. i mean, they are playing in the west, NO, portland and utah will be hot for the title next year and the lakers are far from being done. the spurs will have a hard season next year if they don't get younger. well, i don't blame the players for their effort on the court. we all know what shard, hedo, meer or evans can do and dwight can't do it by himself. they have done a great job beating the raptors in a best-of-7 series but let's face it - this is it. i don't think there was a single person who REALLY though we can beat the pistons with or without chauncey. yes, there were some homeristic predictions but i don't think any of these peoples really though that we can beat them. lewis, hedo and evans are in their prime and jameer is entering his prime or already entered it. we do have the most dominant big man in the league and he's only only 22. but the problem is that he'll be pretty much alone when his time (to win a ring) comes and there will be no capspace to add some talent and nobody will touch shard's, nelson's and even hedo's (if he resigns for +10mill) contracts. I BLAME THE MANAGEMENT AND OUR GM FOR HIS "CREATIVE FINANCING" AND HIS "WELL BALANCED ROSTER"!!!

quote: Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:Wallace, this year's 1st round pick, and a future 1st(2010) for Hedo and Battie. It clears Battie off our cap, and clears room for Rashard to move back to the 3. Gives us a high quality 4, and future picks. And KLR(and other Pistons fans), before you tell me it's lopsided, you need to remember that Wallace is an expiring next year, so you're going to lose on any trade with him as a focal point. You do however get the best player in the trade. EDIT: I should note that this trade hinges on Detroit also trading Prince(most likely to a team in the west for prospects and picks). well, if you check it out you'll notice that hedo expires next year too (he can opt out and unless his game drops he will) so the theory with the expiring deal and losing for nothing doesn't count. sheed's value will be very high on trade deadline, they can get much more than just hedo and a useless contract for him. and btw, i wouldn't say that hedo is the best player in this deal. asking them for TWO FIRST round picks is just redicules. we'd have to ADD 2 first and switch battie for an expiring deal like bogans and maybe jj redick.