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2020-2021 Official Magic Season Thread
TrueMagicFan07 replied to Soul Bro's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
I have prepared and posted the Game Thread Starter for tonight's game against the Hornets. . .if anyone is interested. The game starts at 8 pm. I gave it my best shot while making preparations to fly to my vacation home in Hyattsville MD--where Markelle attended high school. I have an early flight in the morning, so I won't see much of the game. I will prepare and post the remaining Game Thread Starters from Maryland. GO MAGIC! -
OFFICIAL GAME THREAD - Magic @ Hornets - May 7, 2021
TrueMagicFan07 posted a topic in Orlando Magic Forum
Friday, May 7, 2021 Spectrum Center - Charlotte, NC TV: Bally Sports Florida 32-34, 3rd in Southeast Division | 21-45, 5th in Southeast Division LET'S GO MAGIC! - Today
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Yea this draft is short on legit 6'7+ "wings". In the lottery it's only really Wagner and Kuminga (and Kispert if you believe he's a lottery pick, maybe Ziaire Williams could sneak into the lotto if he has insane workouts). Saying that there are a bunch of guys that people call "guards" that have the length to play considerable minutes on the wing. Cade is 6'8. Moody is a 6'6 wing with a 7'0 wingspan. He's listed as a SG but he has the size to play both. Giddey will probably spend considerable time at SF in the NBA for defensive reasons. MCW, Ross and Harris could all play the 3 in spells with 2 other guards. If we keep Bacon he can play SF some. Okeke can play some SF. And like you say we'll likely keep one of Porter, Ennis or Brazdeikis (or some combination of the 3 - I hope we keep Ennis personally). It is a position to keep an eye on because it's the most up in the air and we don't have a seemingly "natural SF" but I think we can figure it out whoever we draft.
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I agree with you on both of these, but as I'm looking at our roster going forward it does strike me that after a couple of years being heavy on forwards/centers we may now have swung too far in the opposite direction. Of the 10 guys guaranteed for next season, we have five pg/sg, one sg/sf, two pf/sf, and two centers. There isn't a "true" small forward on the roster yet for next season. Then I look at the draft, and there aren't a lot of small forwards in the projected lottery there either. Kuminga, Kispert, F. Wagner, and (maybe) J. Johnson being arguably the best of the bunch. I'm thinking that if we end up with Cunningham, Suggs, Green, Mitchell, Giddey, Moody, Springer or K. Johnson we will need to make some other moves to balance out this roster. I don't believe in "reaching", I think we should take the BPA pretty much always. If the new guy is better at the position, you either move the current guy to the bench or trade him. PG/SG - Fultz, Anthony, Hampton, Carter-Williams, Harris SG/SF - Ross SF/PF - Okeke PF/SF - Isaac C - Carter, Bamba This is part of the reason I think we might retain Mo Wagner and one of Porter/Ennis/Brazdeikis.
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2020-2021 Official Magic Season Thread
jmmagicfan replied to Soul Bro's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
So we currently have 10 under contract for next season (11 if we guarantee Bacon on/before August). Fultz/Anthony Harris/Hampton/Carter-Williams Ross Isaac/Okeke Carter/Bamba If we decide to offer veteran-minimum contracts to Brazdeikis and Wagner, that still leaves us three roster spots to fill. Assuming we fill two with our 1st and Chicago's 1st, and don't keep Bacon, we would still have one spot to fill. Do we try to keep Otto Porter, Jr? James Ennis III? Bacon? Both Porter and Ennis have had injury issues this year. Bacon has actually been healthy all year, but he has been Dwayne Bacon! Do we try to bring in a different vet? Do we leave a space open, so we can pick up someone in case of injury? Pesonally, I like Wagner, and I think he has earned a roster spot, playing with energy and shooting as a backup PF/C and even starting some for us. I'm on the fence about Brazdeikis and Ennis. I like Ennis a lot, just concerned about his injury history this year. Did he come back too quickly because we were short-handed and end up re-injuring himself? Will the summer off let him heal properly? I haven't seen enough of Porter or Brazdeikis to really be comfortable with either of them, and Porter will probably get offers for more than we would want to pay him; but who knows how his injury history will affect that? If Porter is healthy and we can keep him somewhere in the $13-16M range, it is probably a good move; but if he isn't? For our 2-way contracts do we keep Randle? Thornwell? Do we try to bring back Cannady? What about our 2nd-round pick? Could that pick end up being our final roster spot, or one of our 2-way spots? -
Both of those are fair criticisms. But you can quicken up a release and teach a guy some screen and roll reads especially when he's that young. Probably not. My argument is he's 6'8 and knows where to be and what rotations to make. He just needs to be more engaged which playing for a coach like Cliff would help a lot probably. He probably won't be a good defender on an island unless he improves athletically (not totally impossible but unlikely) but how many guys are really? Team defense is more important anyway.
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I’m guessing the reason Springer is so low in mocks is because his release is slow and he supposedly struggled in the pick and roll. I watched two UT games and barely remember him. Meanwhile, his teammate Johnson is extremely raw. You’ve now got me curious about Giddey, though I don’t know if he’ll pass the WeltHam two-way test.
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Just FYI the KOC draft guide at The Ringer has been updated and in my opinion both the rankings and the player comps are bad.
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Very intrigued by Jaden Springer. By my reckoning he's the youngest NCAA prospect in the draft (only international guys are younger that I can find are Giddey and Roko Prkacin, EDIT: Kuminga is also younger). I read recently that he forced a turnover on 26% of possessions where he guarded the ball handler in iso or PnR. That's mad. He also has a great statistical profile, Block and steal %s over 2. Over 40% FT rate. Actually shot well from 3 (on low volume and versatility but it's a good start). I think he should be a top 10 prospect in this draft and I'm not sure why people have Keon Johnson so much higher than him. After looking into both of them a little more. My top 10 right now is probably something like: 1. Cade 2a. Mobley 2b. Green 4. Suggs 5. Giddey 6. Springer 7. Kuminga 8. Sengun 9. Moody 10a. Barnes 10b. Wagner
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2020-2021 Official Magic Season Thread
alwaystragic replied to Soul Bro's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
Actually what I was saying is no one of those need to get shipped out. There were 12 players in my original post. Take note than anthony can play at both guard positions. Then we add two picks applying BPA, and we slowly add to this core without needing to remove anyone from the equation. bamba / carter jr isaac / wagner okeke / hampton / bradzeikis anthony / ross / harris fultz / anthony / mcw -
Pistons beat Grizzlies
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I was talking about the chance of getting a top 4 pick. If you don’t get that, I’m not sure how important it is to get pick 5 vs pick 7. The chance of getting a top four pick for the very worst team is 52%. The chance of getting a top four pick for the 5th worst team is about 45%. That 7 percent difference means that every 14 years on average, you’ll get one extra pick in the top four as the worst team rather than the fifth worst team. For that it’s worth screwing up your young players by telling them to lose??
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2020-2021 Official Magic Season Thread
South_Aussie_Magic replied to Soul Bro's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
Yeah it is absolutely not insignificant that Marion's peak was 7 years of just about 19 and 10 with fantastic D. On a winning team. I think Aaron should be flattered that the comparison's were ever made at this point. -
I just want to see Aaron make it through a second playoff series healthy. I'm sure it will be a great talking point on these forums. As far as him ascending as an offensive player, it's starting to get a little late for that. I still think he has a great catch and shoot stroke so i think he still due a career year as a shooter. I just don't think we will ever see some consistency. Where he failed for me, is he just didn't have that first step to get to the basket for those 8-10 easy baskets each game. I mean, yeah he did some games but mostly being set up by team mates or a blown defensive rotation. Way too many times in transition i expected him to explode to the basket like other All-star forwards and he just couldn't do it. At first i thought it was mental, but he just doesn't have it like the better forwards. Add that to his inconsistent shooting and teams schemed to take that away from him. The shooting is mental, so if he can get some confidence on a winning team i expect next year to be his best.
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2021 NBA Draft Thread
ROCK LEGENDS PHOTOGRAPHERS replied to CTMagicUK's topic in Orlando Magic Forum
In reality if we end up 5th from the bottom our highest percentage is 25% for pick number 7! -
Lol! It’s like WeltHam are trying so hard to tank and the young guys and scrubs won’t comply.
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Admiral is going to command the tank.
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I get your point but Shawn Marion is a 4 time All Star who at his peak averaged 22/12 for a 50+ win team.
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The percentage difference for getting a top 4 pick for the bottom 5 teams is very small. Not nearly worth sabotaging our young players.
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Could not agree more
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Well said
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We have at least a 50-50 chance of not being in the top 4 no matter where we land.
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If we end up picking someone who can’t shoot with our first pick, I’m gonna have a Soul tantrum up in here.
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LOL. It is really something!
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Our roster this year has gotten ugly from a health and talent perspective! Wowzers
