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  2. orlandoholic

    2023-2024 Season Thread

    He took 44 shots.. I need heavily investigation in his personality and if he’d be willing to play team ball and not f up any team chemistry
  3. Today
  4. CTMagicUK

    2023-2024 Season Thread

    Not necessarily. Atlanta likely have to move on from one of Murray or Trae because it's not working with both of them together. (Id still prefer Trae honestly)
  5. Spaceman

    2023-2024 Season Thread

    I wanted to trade for him at the deadline but read about the supposed beef with Palo. He would be just what this team needs, he has the ability to score, assist and play defense. Unfortunately that ship has sailed.
  6. orlandoholic

    2023-2024 Season Thread

    this is a nice watch and it’s been a topic quite often. Mosley is a great defensive mind, a great players coach. Just give him a great offensive minded offensive coordinator and transform coaching. It’s not a shame to rely on an offensive coordinator. The NFL is used to this. So if i’m Mosley, i’m hiring a n OC and that coach will have the say in designing our offense in the offseason. Mosley will take lessons at the same time and master the OC principles. He is now in the knowledge to call shots in a game. Amd at the same time i don’t understand why an assistant can’t draw up plays? Basketball in general act like the coaches need to be great t both. But imo it’s difficult to be a great defensive minded coach and also focus on offensive strategies. The video above shows the beauty of concepts and X and Os, in the NBA. I feel like our team is so unselfish, it would be designed to thrive in a great offensive system.
  7. CTMagicUK

    2023-2024 General Game Thread

    I agree with this 100%. I've been harsh as hell on Cole at times this year but that's why he deserves his flowers when he plays well. He's still a bad defensive player for the way we specifically play defense (heavy switching and a lot of single coverage with late help) but he's really improved on defense this season honestly, he makes smart rotations, he helps and recovers, he plays hard on that end. He's just not especially long or strong. But when he is hitting shots that opens up the rest of his game and he can get in the lane and play make etc he can be a real positive for us. I also agree with the problem areas of the rotation. The thing about Joe specifically though is for as generally bad as he is on defense there are times where it feels like the Jo/Mo pick and roll is the single most productive action our team runs so I'm generally thankful for Joe, a 29 year old Joe Ingles who played defense would be a dream. Wendell I'm sad about. He was comfortably a top 3 player for us last season, this season I'm not sure I'd put him in the top 5. (Part of that is the leveling up of Suggs and the return to health of JI but also Wendell has just not been as good or as aggressive). I am starting to wonder if we move Wendell in the summer and stick with Goga (or sign another C like Hartenstein or Claxton). Like I'm not necessarily saying I'd do that but I do think that's more of a possibility now than it was at the start of the season.
  8. Jamesdin

    2023-2024 Season Thread

    Can we do some fusion of kelle and cole and just get the best of the two?
  9. Mauro Pedrosa

    2023-2024 Season Thread

    Dejounte Murray might actually be underrated. Fantastic game winner vs the Celtics
  10. All Eyes On Me

    2023-2024 General Game Thread

    Oh I didn’t mean to offend anyone. It’s just consistent with Cole. He’s divisive on this board. He plays poorly he’s the first one to get called out, but he never gets credit when he plays well. He’s a spark plug, and when he’s playing like he was last night, you bet your behind I want him playing the whole 4th quarter over Markelle Fultz who won’t look at the basket if he’s further than 10 feet out. I just feel like Cole is a scapegoat, when most nights we have much bigger problems. Our biggest issues in the rotation right now are Joe Ingles and Markelle Fultz, Wendell Carter gets a consolation prize here as well.
  11. Yesterday
  12. TrueMagicFan07

    2023-2024 General Game Thread

    First of all, All Eyes, the criticism of Cole did not start after last night's game was over. Me and some others have talked about him being a ball hog before last night's game. So are you telling me there was ball movement everytime the Magic was on offense, and the ball ended up in Cole's hands because he was the only teammate open? I don't think so. For me, it was not about waiting until the game was over to state an opinion about Cole. I was focused on the game and how the entire team was involved or not involved. I also had another window open on my computer to read the message board participants' comments. By the way, only 6 or 7 participants posted comments during last night's game, and there were only 2 pages of comments from the beginning of the game until the end of the game (when the game clock hit zero). There were only about 6 or 7 board members posting comments during the game. I figured that most posters were too focused on the game and didn't want to stop every second to post a comment. It was either that or they were posting or reading comments on the Magic Realgm Message Board. I don't think it's fair to call posters who criticize Cole and call us haters. Every person has their opinion. That is harsh to say we/me are haters. I like Joe Ingles. I sometimes post shoutouts to Joe when he does something well. Does anyone call me an Ingles 'lover' as opposed to 'hater'? We lost the game, and there are a number of things that factor into why we lost like not making free throws. But what really stood out to me was lack of ball movement which led to hero ball from Cole. Cole is a very inconsistent player from one game to another. I HOPE THE MAGIC WIN 7 OR 8 GAMES OF THE REMAINING REGULAR SEASON GAMES!!! GO MAGIC!!!
  13. harryfromphilly

    2023-2024 General Game Thread

    You have to understand that it is not Cole hate. (At least from me) I love him as a 6 or 7th man coming off of the bench and injecting a spark of energy. I am also ok with keeping him in the game longer if he is playing smart and hitting when he shoots.. I dont think he is consistent enough to be either a starting point guard, or in at the end. That is what I responded to. The desire to let him start. And I even said that I am ok with him moving to starting for the rest of this year, But I dont think he is a long term answer as a starting (or finishing) point guard. And yes, as JJZFL said, in this game he was no worse than anyone else.
  14. JJZFL

    2023-2024 General Game Thread

    It worked until the last couple of minutes when everyone, including Cole, started to play hero ball. I don’t fault Cole anymore than the rest of them. His turnaround fadeaway near air ball with under a minute left kind of sealed the loss for us, though.
  15. All Eyes On Me

    2023-2024 General Game Thread

    Gary is off the injury report for tomorrow. First game of a back to back, so I’d expect him, Kelle and JI all to play against the Clippers and sit against the Grizzlies. The Sugg/Harris/Franz/Paolo/WCJ starting 5 I believe is still undefeated.
  16. All Eyes On Me

    2023-2024 General Game Thread

    Yeah, the Cole hate is wild. Without him, we lose by 20+ last night.
  17. CTMagicUK

    2023-2024 General Game Thread

    Complaining about Cole after that game specifically is WILD. I was more scared that anyone other than Cole was going to shoot.
  18. TrueMagicFan07

    2023-2024 General Game Thread

    Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Cole play almost the entire 4th quarter? E.V.E.R.Y time Cole had the ball in his hands, I feared he was going to shoot. Sure, he did make a number of shots. But each time I saw him with the ball, I was going "get ready" and "there he goes"--my body was tensed. Fortunately he made big shots. Cole is not consistent game to game. In an earlier post I said I fear that if we make the playoffs, Cole will shoot us out of a game(s).
  19. harryfromphilly

    2023-2024 General Game Thread

    Agree about Your first statement, disagree about Cole If You watch him in clutch time, he never even looks for anyone else. Yes he had an amazing game, and often does, but just as often shoots us out of the game. The final seconds of the Kings game was as much about him playing hero ball as to trying to get a win. Dont mind if he starts the rest of the year, or we give AB a bit of burn, but for the future... Yes, we need the point guard that You describe To me, Cole is not him.
  20. All Eyes On Me

    2023-2024 Season Thread

    The last 4 losses put a spotlight on just how thin our backcourt is. Harris out the last 2 and Suggs out the 2 losses to New York and Indy. It’s why most of us were so upset for sitting stagnant at the trade deadline. Markelle was horrible again last night but people are afraid to say it because he’s an awesome dude and we all feel bad for him. Behind that AB is too raw, and Cole and Suggs are way too inconsistent. I still can’t believe a pro basketball team had a quarter where they shot 3-22 from the field… insane
  21. TrueMagicFan07

    2023-2024 Season Thread

    Mods, can you please pin the poll I generated about the Magic's record for the 11 games remaining this season? I don't know why anyone thought the Magic would beat the Warriors. They beat us without their best defender at center. The Warriors won without hot-headed Draymond after he was ejected from the game. Of the 11 remaining teams, there are several fighting to make the playoffs or play-ins. BY THE WAY: I FORGOT TO INCLUDE 6-5 IN THE POLL. I EDITED AND INSERTED AT THE BOTTOM OF THE POLL.
  22. JJZFL

    2023-2024 Season Thread

    Last night game against GS not encouraging as the first game of those 11. Let’s see if they can get back on track after two very disappointing games, or if their shortcomings will be revealed causing them to wilt in higher intensity games.
  23. Albert Lergier

    2023-2024 General Game Thread

    FOR NO REASON, THE STAGE LAST NIGHT SEEMED TOO BIG FOR THE MAGIC.........NOT FOR COLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MIGHT BE TIME TO INSERT HIM AS A STARTER.....AT THE END OF THE DAY THE STARTERS ARE THE PLAYERS THAT TEAMS RELY TO WIN GAMES. TEAM NEEDS A PG THAT CAN CREATE ASSITS (5 PER GAME / 36 MPG), SCORE, SHOOT 3'S, REBOUND AND REFIEF PAOLO OF HANDLING THE BALL SO MUCH.
  24. JJZFL

    2023-2024 General Game Thread

    It was also one guy dribbling the ball until the clock had nearly expired before he passed it.
  25. All Eyes On Me

    2023-2024 General Game Thread

    Down 1 with a minute left and we get a shot clock violation due to indecisiveness. Just can’t happen
  26. JJZFL

    2023-2024 General Game Thread

    Even with all of that, it was a two point game with about two minutes left. At that point all the guys who want to win the game by themselves started to go one on however many and take bad shots. It’s at the end of close games when passing is most important that we just stop. No one trusts their teammates apparently. It’s happened repeatedly. It’s very aggravating.
  27. Sumike4ya

    2023-2024 General Game Thread

    Absolutely agree. I was are Alehouse with the fam, and we had to leave early because I was getting too loud and probably annoyed everyone around us
  28. CTMagicUK

    2024 NBA Draft Thread

    He's a similar archetype but he plays defense which'll likely get him on the floor a lot sooner. Until I see Jett make an impact in an NBA game I'm not factoring him in as a reason not to draft somebody. Plus you really can't ever have enough 6'5+ guys who can pass/dribble/shoot.
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