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quote: Originally posted by alex30:que hay mi gente tanto tiempo estaba en gira pero de nuevo aqui. que hay? Co

quote: Originally posted by Live or Die Magic:Good Lord JD, when are you covering the equipment guy, Rodney Powell? Or maybe the peanut guy? Will he or won't he sell honey roasted this season? Are you not supposed to be a moderator? You sound more like an agitator.LOL

En el juego clave la defensa paro a Barea que cometio muchos to's y Carlos lucio como un Olimpico con los tiros y asistencias claves. Creo que el se estaba cuidando de su lesion reciente y le dio oportunidad de juego a Barea que quizas sea nuestro PG principal para el torneo mundial.

quote: Originally posted by brownmagic:D-A-M-N..that was nasty...but why don't we see this kind of aggression when he plays for the Magic? When Hedo drives its normally 99% of the time for a layup..but looks like hes got some hidden leaping ability...let the NBA get a taste of it! Ask Vangundy, he sets who does what.

quote: Originally posted by Ag

Matias, ironicamente los coaches de PR tuvieron mucha influencia surante la maduracion del deporte, tales como Julio Toro y Flor Melendez. Es esto correcto?

quote: Look at Arroyo. He kills in PR, but come NBA season, he is mediocre. You mean the trashing he and his team gave the NBA stars in the olympics didn't count? Many foreign players fail in the NBA because they are asked to limit their role to a specific function within the coach's playmaking that hinders the potential of their performance. One good example is Hedo's role until this year when given a more prominent role, he showed his all star potential. Thats the reason many leave early specially when the money is flowing better in international leagues. Also note how some star players look average when given limited roles in their national team, like the USA olympic team, where stars where spending much time in the bench and had to cut down on their offensive side, like Reid, Boozer and Prince. The European league tends to diminish the star role of individual players and prefers focusing on team playing and sharing playing time. Of course this would affect the sales of Jerseys, bobbleheads, product sponsorship and perhaps attendance here.

Ricky Rubio an all star PG written all over his jersey. He should be the back up PG of this team for at least 2 games before Stan sends Jameer to the bench. His icy cold blood at his age is something Howard would love to have.

Iberia jugo un juegazo digno de admiracion contra un equipo sin debilidades en el banco. Ricky estuvo fenomenal. Con un arbitraje mas justo hubiera sido otra historia.

The interesting aspect of this article is that its the first public aknowledgememt of press and coach that he has work to do. The question that arises is. Is he open and willing to learn and improve? Does he have the tools to do it? I think most oof us agree to the second one but I am ot sure how we do in the first question. Will he be satisfied to be a dominant center or will he strive to be an elite one to match the best all around? Will his massive contract affect this?

quote: Originally posted by CarlosDarwin: quote: RDZ:I was looking and the Magic roster for the next season and I found that Pat Garrity and Arroyo are in the roster, but Dooling and Mo Evans don't. May be this only mean that the magic still have their rights. Can some one enlight me? Maybe the Magic team don't want the puertoricans from Orlando to find out yet he (Arroyo) is no longer with the team! Oh, come on CD, this organization would never steep that low.LOL

quote: Originally posted by NotByChoice:Robert "Tractor" Trailor? This guy has been playing in the PR league for several years. He can give you some weight around the boards and can score if needed. He had had some pending legal issues that apparently have been solved. Is that the guy?

La situacion de mas urgencia para ellos es un back up PG adicional joven que pueda desarrollar su juego y substituir a Jameer cuando tenga sus bajas usuales. Me imagino que Turk seguira bajando la bola y haciendo los alley oops a Howard.

quote: Originally posted by elephant27:1. Arroyo 2. Arroyo 3. Garrity 4. JJ My hate for Arroyo deserves 2 spots. lol. Is it just a coincidence that thay are all white or hispanic?

Estos son polls de popularidad para la organizacion y nada mas. Arroyo no sera la primera opcion de anotacion pero sera uno de los primeros anotadores del equipo. Su rol es uno de PG y facilitador de juego y creo que el enteinde bien el mismo despues de todos estos a

Knappy, whenever you get that Arroyo detox withdrawal, say your St. Carlos the Redeemer prayer and light a couple of candles in his name. Be patient for you will hear from some of us everytime you loose a game with Jameer as PG and then the question will arise, what would have happened if Arroyo and Dooling would be here?

quote: Originally posted by gobucsmagic:Figured I'd get a response like that. Go drink your koolaid and leave the discussion to those who give a crap. I am afraid you have attempted to discuss an untouchable matter in this forum. If you look at my previous comments on the post related to his spatt with the coach, you would have seen similar reactions from the Howard groupies which will repeat the same excuses, "he is a kid", "he is too young", "he still has time to learn the moves he is missing", etc..All the players on the olympic team are first or second options on their respective teams and are sharing more limited roles in order for their team to win. Why should he pout or underperform at this time. Is this not a sign of lack of maturity or just palin childishness? I think this is going to overflow into his Magic role also.

El potencial de Hedo siempre estuvo ahi desde su entrada a la NBA, pero como muchos otros extranjeros que han penetrado a la NBA se les recluta con un rol menor bien definido a la necesidad del equipo que usualmente los subjugaba como una tercera o cuarta opcion ofensiva en el banco. Esto ha ido cambiando con la masiva participacion de las estrellas europeas en la NBA y las derrotas que el equipo nacional sufrio en las olimpiadas. Recuerden como Ginobili era sacado como 6to hombre del banco aun con estadisticas mejores que los abridores. Hedo siempre fue una primera o segunda opcion ofensiva en cualquier equipo pero no fue ahasta ahora que debido a debilidades ofensivas y defensivas en el equipo que el lo insertan en un rol multifacetico que esta hecho a su medida. Pero porque no fue escogido como Allstar? Eso es otra historia. Eso en un grado menos notabel ha sido la historia de Arroyo en la NBA cuando mundialmente ha sido considerado uno de los mejores armadores del juego.

quote: Maybe no one answers your questions here because all of these same questions, and same answers can be found in other Carlos threads visited by yourself. How many times do people have to give you legit, reasonable answers, before you stop asking? You don't want to find the easiest, most plausible answer, you want to expose some sinister plot against Carlos to keep him at bay. Good luck with that. Echo, you make it sound so logical tha you almost convinced me. Its so logical that you want to change a winnning streak and put that starter back in game by moving him to the third option without ever trying out Jameer as back up in weak offensive bench in very much need of firepower that Jameer could bring as the first or second option. (this was agreed as an option for many of the more knowledgable members) Its so logical to loose that defensive PG presence and that starting PG replacement option in a team that the PG posiiton has been one of the main weaknesses. Was this just money? Why did Howard come out publicly for keeping Dooling and no sound on Arroyo? That had no meaning at all, specially when Otis had just publicly expressed that the Arroyo option was not completely out!

The reason for these post as made by its author(Acres) is to allow the exposition of all theories of conspiracy against Arroyo that didnt allow to remain in the Magic and let those in disagreement expose their views rationally based on facts. Yet it seems like a facade to allow it to become another jesting derogatory post about him(Arroyo) and his fans in which the moderator who started it can particpate and join the fun. Why not do it in the Magic forum? After all its a Magic issue involving decisions that affect the fans that come to this forum(look at the number of viewers that see our spanish post) Is the factor of game attendance for next year an issue that prompted this? Did Mr. Acres of fun, get a note form the organization? Wow more conspiracy thories! I repeat the same questions again? The question that still is open is; Why was Arroyo benched while the team was winning? Why after becoming the third option PG, he was the starter replacement instead of Dooling? Why was he not invited after Dooling made his move and he showed interest to talk about money?

Nunca me retractare de palabras escritas que resuenan con la verdad y que estan protegidas poe el derecho de la libre expresion. Ninguna de estas palabras han estdo dirigidas a un individuo especifico sino a acciones grupales o individuales que afectaron el rol de Arroyo y el equipo en la temporada pasada. Ninguna ha sido encuadernada por conotaciones vulgares racistas o ofensivas como muchas que he visto en este foro. Los temas controversiales aun estan por venir.

Bosh to the magic, great burt who would be the starting center? And who would be the starting PF? Is Howard really that badly injured?

quote: Hi Manolo Cintron, I opened this thread, because a player like D. Howard need to have more the One thread, after all if CA had more than one why our franchise player doesn't. LOL, just hope Manolo doesnt find out whom have you comapared him to!

The question that still is open is;Why was Arroyo benched while the team was winning? Why after becoming the third option PG, he was the starter replacement instead of Dooling? Why was he not invited after Dooling made his move and he showed interest to talk about money? Why Otis didnt want him back at no costs? Did Stan say, "No Dooling,then no Arroyo"

You failed to mention "national security" as the factor to allow you to isolate any Arroyo subject matter as a "conspiracy" The conspiracy is generated by plentiful data quoted here by many but never really discounted by similar data except for administration decision based on national security. Lets see, how popular it becomes. The next step would be a message board grand jury to evaluate the data.LOL