ibonedteribell

quote: We already know Carlos Arroyo is the best point guard in the world. Could you go argue it to the Heat fans now? I've heard it enough. If yo go to our boards you will see a post, Arroyo apreciation thread, which was posted by one of his former oposers in the board. They apperciate Arroyo and our participation

quote: We might want another point guard because it is usually a good idea to have more than one of them. You know, so that when one of them gets tired the other one can play. I didn't think I would have to explain this to a man that has only followed the career of a backup point guard for the past 10 years. You seem really confident that Arroyo is in Miami to stay. I've got 5 bucks that says he gets dumped the first chance Miami gets to upgrade the position. He is a filler. Nothing more. A patch job until an actual starting point guard can be acquired. The only reason Arroyo was even signed was because the Heat were sporting the spectacular duo of Chalmers and the Travis Diener rip-off. Its reasonabel the heat should star looking for a new PG for long term since Arroyo is 32 but if they are stupid enough to make the same mistake the Magic did by letting go one of their most popular player in bringing people in, Arroyo will get plenty of offers from other teams. Any way lets see howour teams do in the plyoffs when we meet.

quote: he wouldn't even play ahead of JWill. JWill is playing better than jameer also and he is in th ebench because of Otis ****head contract and Mr. Yeller (Stan)gutless ways to Otis.

quote: Originally posted by Miller4Prez64:Only these stupid mexicans and ball junkie would actually think Arroyo is better than an All Star PG.....rofl. Have you guys have had some problems with your Taco bell managers? Check this out.

quote: How about this for the truth, Pablo.....Jameer Nelson was named to the All Star team last year while Arroyo was playing in Israel. But hey, now he's starting for the same team that started MARIO CHALMERS at PG, so he must be good. I dare you to name me one team that Senor Arroyo would start for other than Miami. quote: How about this for the truth, Pablo.....Jameer Nelson was named to the All Star team last year while Arroyo was playing in Israel. But hey, now he's starting for the same team that started MARIO CHALMERS at PG, so he must be good. I dare you to name me one team that Senor Arroyo would start for other than Miami. How about Orlando and Knicks. Yes it was his best year but it was Skip the one that Arroyo demoted to the bench who got Orlando to the finals. By th eway see whom they use to promo the next world basket tournament I dont see jameer, or Kidd or Williams.

quote: Only these stupid mexicans and ball junkie would actually think Arroyo is better than an All Star PG.....rofl. Racist hater are you. the truth hurts, right?

quote: Please go away...again. I will be back when we meet again. It will be your worst nightmare.

quote: Originally posted by Jareth Cutestory:I think you take the BPA period in this draft. 1-30 is full of solid players, with the PG crop being the weakest of the bunch. If a guy like Willie Warren (combo guard), Kyler Singler, James Anderson, Daniel Orton, or Gani Lawal are available like some mocks suggest, then I think you have to take one of those guys. I am of the opinion that we can find a good prospect at PG in the 2nd, with guys like Collins, Vasquez, Dyson being available. I thought when jameer was signed the issue of PG was over.There are plenty of back up PG's in the league that can back up and bench Jameer, Why not unload jameer if you can get some team to have him. Thi year is th elast opportunity this team will hava a cahnce at the ring but...I think even Superman cant pull that one off.LOL

You are skirting the issue with arrogance and intolerance which is the way ignorance is reflected. Th issue here is Jameer and yes even Anthony the grandpa plays better than the midget.

quote: Originally posted by Jareth Cutestory: quote: Originally posted by ibonedteribell: quote: At no time has he averaged 8-10 assists per game. How about the last 10 games he has started? Remeber h ewas getting 8 mins/game before Skip skipped away. Are you asking me? If you are, then the answer is still no. Missed by a couple, 8.7 PPG

quote: honestly feel Anthony Johnson is better than Arroyo. That could be debatable but the issue here has always been Arroyo vs Jameer

quote: At no time has he averaged 8-10 assists per game. How about the last 10 games he has started? Remeber h ewas getting 8 mins/game before Skip skipped away.

quote: Also, you're an fool. Jareth, you are the one that is acting foolish by digging your head into the sand like an Ostrich who sees the Lion coming.LOL Arroyo creates team play and has led the team to win without Wades high scoring games, whic usually doesnt happen when Baby Huey has his tantrums with the Refs. Arroyo is the second best ball protector in the league (TO/Assit ratio), he is know averaging 8 assist/game and 8-10PPG. Thats aobut 36 ppg for the team.

quote: That's funny. He managed to beat out Arroyo for the starting position...something that Carlos never challenged. He also made the allstar team...something that Carlos never came close to doing. He probably would have won the most improved player last year if he hadn't gotten injured. I'm glad that Carlos has played well recently. I always liked him. I also find it hilarious that his fanatical fans are clinging to the fact that he is starting on the only team in the league he could start for....and on a team where the true point guard is Dwayne Wade. You're better off sticking to talking trash about a Olympic victory that occured 6 years ago. quote: That's funny. He managed to beat out Arroyo for the starting position...something that Carlos never challenged. He also made the allstar team...something that Carlos never came close to doing. He probably would have won the most improved player last year if he hadn't gotten injured. I'm glad that Carlos has played well recently. I always liked him. I also find it hilarious that his fanatical fans are clinging to the fact that he is starting on the only team in the league he could start for....and on a team where the true point guard is Dwayne Wade. You're better off sticking to talking trash about a Olympic victory that occured 6 years ago. Dejavu, It was an obvious fact that divided this board 2 years ago, the lack of consensus about the signing of Jameeer at a time Arroyo was a better bet for winning with this team. We all kknow Jameer was signed to keep his buddy Howard from going into a a Baby Huey tantrum. Last year Mr. Darwin extensively showed that the team did better with Arroyo as a starter, yet the same crowd turend the subject around to attacking us the blind groupies of Arroyo. In Miami it seemed to be Dejavu again, the management favoring Wade's pick for PG, but...the manager here ha a bit more of independent criteria to accept they were wrong. Lets see some stats posted by a Miami fan and not one of us, Originally posted by Skyhook13: I was doing some research on the Heat and I finally understood why Heat management finaly gave up and gave the point guard position to Arroyo. According to my research is obious why Arroyo is playing. The more time he is in the court the highest probability the Heat will win the game. See by yorself. Carlos Arroyo W L Winning percentage '+ 18 Min 21 12 63.64% '+ 20 Min 18 9 66.67% '+ 25 Min 14 5 73.68% '+ 30 Min 10 4 71.43% '+ 35 Min 9 0 100.00% '+ 40 Min 5 0 100.00% Since 3/02/10 10 3 76.92% As a Starter 16 10 61.54% Mario Chalmers W L Winning percentage '+ 18 Min 26 22 54.17% '+ 20 Min 23 20 53.49% '+ 25 Min 18 16 52.94% '+ 30 Min 10 10 50.00% '+ 35 Min 3 5 37.50% '+ 40 Min 1 1 50.00% Rafer Alston W L Winning percentage '+ 18 Min 11 12 47.83% '+ 20 Min 11 11 50.00% '+ 25 Min 8 8 50.00% '+ 30 Min 3 3 50.00% '+ 35 Min 1 2 33.33% '+ 40 Min 0 0 0.00% Honestly it all goes down to winning! The guy has demonstrated that he can impact the game in ways that can't be seen in the stats sheets. I don't care if this guy doesn't score, guards or makes a whole lots of assists, All I care is that we are winning and heading to the playoffs! BTW he didn't left the team when he was demoted to third string PG like Rafer did. Arroyo has helped Spo the coach get to win the Coach of the month award. Guys you made abig mistake when you let Arroyo go!

quote: You mean dribble until there is 8 seconds left on the shot clock and take an ill advised shot? I know I sure miss it. You apparently have not following what Arroyo is accomplishing this year when he has been given support by both coach and players. He has become one of the most efficient passers by becoming 2nd in TO/assit ratio in the league. I wouldnt be surprised you will be facing him in the finals at some time wher he will have some time to convince you by beating the "sheet" of your team. LOL