Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 Just now, Franchise408 said: I just think its funny that nobody here thinks Vuc or Fournier are pieces to a winning, contending team, but those same people seem to think they are pieces we can flip to easily acquire those said pieces, in deals that are entirely friendly and beneficial to our team. We have a "treadmill" team, but apparently are just sitting on all of these amazing deals that are just gonna instantly turn us into a contender. That's because you're looking at things through the lens of the magic. Our circumstances don't apply to other teams. Like Vuc would probably be awesome on the thunder because they're not doing the same thing we're doing, leveraging an elite defense to account for a lack of an elite scorer. A lot of teams would like fournier. He does a lot of things well. He's not a great defender but he's a solid team defender. He's not a mismatch threat because bigger players struggle to post him. He can shoot and dribble and pass. He looks worse here because he's basically forced to be Jimmy Butler. Fit is important. In a better fit he'd be more valuable. But that's never going to be here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Originalticketholder 133 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 1 hour ago, TrueMagicFan07 said: Look at that point guard go! Klay Thompson once scored 50+ points on 6 dribbles. Fournier did him one better. He scored 6 points on 50+ dribbles. He got skill! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ML6 520 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 I'm not a huge Fournier guy but man you guys are swinging this way too far. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Okethree 76 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 So clippers got a future first from Miami for taking on harkless. What a deal for them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ML6 520 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 Is Butler worth all this? Miami is just hemorrhaging stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, ML6 said: Is Butler worth all this? Miami is just hemorrhaging stuff Yeah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ML6 520 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 11 minutes ago, ?4thewin said: Yeah Idk man he's good but I don't think he's a stand alone, carry a team to contender status guy. They top out at what, a 7 seed if everything goes right? Maybe I'm just coalescing all of the previous rumors and not keeping track of who has actually been shipped out. I keep thinking they lost everyone but now that I consider it I guess Dragic, Olynyk, & DJJ aren't going anywhere? Guess they still have enough rotation guys. All the different iterations of this trade have my head spinning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, ML6 said: Idk man he's good but I don't think he's a stand alone, carry a team to contender status guy. They top out at what, a 7 seed if everything goes right? What were they if they didn't trade for him? 9th seed with limited ability to improve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeHateMe 697 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 12 minutes ago, ?4thewin said: Yeah He’s overrated. He’s had issues everywhere he’s been. He doesn’t win. Idk why he gets discussed like he’s a top tier super star. He’s not. He’s a really good player but he’s no where near the A level stars in this league yet every year we seem to be talking about where butler is going. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Boss 129 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 https://ibb.co/LQtQgZv 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNameIsOrlando 310 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 12 minutes ago, HeHateMe said: He’s overrated. He’s had issues everywhere he’s been. He doesn’t win. Idk why he gets discussed like he’s a top tier super star. He’s not. He’s a really good player but he’s no where near the A level stars in this league yet every year we seem to be talking about where butler is going. Agreed. 3rd best player/fringe 2nd best player on a championship team. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites