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The Official 2015-2016 Trade Thread

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I think it's Dedmon because his limited improvement and we can't trust him to play. He is easy to trade.

 

Nicholson could be that guaranteed guy, though I think he is a decent fit and will play more once Frye and/or Harris is gone. But, he is very skilled on offense and has an easy to trade contract to help a contender who can let him walk if he doesn't fit.

 

Don't expect more than a 2nd round pick though. The only other possibility is he is a filler in a bigger trade.

 

Frye costs too much to guarantee, unless there is a deal lined up if he is not included in another trade.

 

I do think we should get Butler. But, no Gordon and Hezonja, and they get Harris or Dipo, not both. a 2017 1st round, and Vucevic.

They can get Nicholson for a 2nd in a separate deal for deferring to 2017. And any picks should have top 3 protection unless they add another quality player.

 

 

Your content with Smith as your starting center?

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Would you trade for Ricky Rubio (something like: Rubio, Dieng + Prince for Payton, Dedmond + Frye)?

In a heartbeat. Minnesota will never consider that.

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Would you trade for Ricky Rubio (something like: Rubio, Dieng + Prince for Payton, Dedmond + Frye)?

 

Minnesota is getting nowhere near acceptable value in return

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The deal was Vic/Vuc/1st (hopefully the draft after this year's). Presumably you just roll with Dedmon the rest of the year in, in a semi-tank with a hurt Butler. Or move Harris and Frye for a big

 

how do we know that was the deal? loool

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Channing Frye is a veteran stretch 4 for the Orlando Magic, who's rumored to be very available at the trade deadline. His minutes have sharply decreased since Aaron Gordon broke out earlier this season, and Orlando's interested in moving his contract, which has one year remaining after this one at $7.5 million. His contract could be conceivably swapped for either of the Clippers' movable pieces: Jamal Crawford and Lance Stephenson, who both give Orlando an expiring deal. For Crawford, the Clippers would also have to include a minimum contract (Branden Dawson makes too little).

 

Why Orlando says yes:

 

They don't need or use Channing Frye, and a young, building team can use that cash this off-season instead of paying it to a returning player who will be 33 years old next summer. Jamal Crawford provides them with the veteran scoring they're reportedly coveting and Crawford is an excellent locker room guy for their young players. Alternatively, Stephenson gives them a potential long-term contributor along with the same benefit of an expiring contract.

 

Why Orlando says no:

 

Channing Frye is an important veteran leader in Orlando's locker room, even though he's getting less playing time. The Magic are rumored to want more of a veteran presence, not less of one. Additionally, Frye could have more value around the league--they'd have to be desperate to ship him off for an expiring contract instead of seeking a more substantial return.

 

Why Los Angeles says yes:

 

Frye would be a great fit in Los Angeles--he brings the shooting pedigree that they've been looking for as a stretch 4 (let's be honest, while Spencer Hawes was a disappointment, he had nowhere near the shooting pedigree of Frye). While a veteran, Frye's three years younger than the soon-to-be 36 Jamal Crawford. He'd be a massive upgrade in the current Griffin-less starting lineup (39% career on over 2,000 attempts compared to Hawes' 35% on 900 career attempts) to Paul Pierce, who's shooting just 31% from deep on the season while playing as an undersized PF. When Griffin returned, Frye would be the fit at third big that Doc Rivers has been searching for--spacing the floor for Griffin or Jordan with the size and versatility to play alongside either. Then Cole Aldrich, instead of being relied upon heavily in the playoffs, can play in a fourth-big role that he's more suited for--providing good depth and serving as a big body with fouls to use.

 

Why Los Angeles says no:

 

Especially in the absence of Austin Rivers, the Clippers would have a hard time losing another perimeter player. In this scenario, Frye would play PF, moving Pierce to the bench and allowing Wes Johnson to play his normal position of small forward with the second unit. Then, whoever doesn't leave in the trade (Crawford/Stephenson) could play the backup SG spot until Rivers returns and adjustments are made. These adjustments could work but the Clippers would be very short on perimeter depth. Long-term when Griffin returns, there's a possibility that Doc Rivers doesn't want to commit big nightly minutes to a third big man, since he's invested big-time in playing small this season and wing players will be more valuable in a potential match-up with the Golden State Warriors down the road.

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That's a reach. Frye doesn't have a ton of value but we're not trading him for nothing. Frye for Jason Thompson. Frye and something for Jennings. Frye for Jeff Whithey, Frye and something for Kosta Koufos, Frye for something on Phoenix, Frye to New Orleans in a three team trade, Frye as salary filler for a larger trade.

 

So many things make more sense than Frye to the clippers for an expiring.

 

And why the clippers? why not any of the other expirings in the league? Why not Portland who could absorb his contract without trading anything back?

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