Catman 380 Report post Posted June 25, 2015 How are you still having a hard time following this logic? If Sacramento wants Vucevic more than the number 2 pick then LA doesn't need to be involved How are you having a hard time grasping that the discussion most likely involves more than just the key players being named? Yes they do cause we dont want cousins. Wed be moving up and gettin assets, not cousins. Again, its la/kings trade..they have tp convince us we b. Getting value bqck for vuc Exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fan for too long 2 532 Report post Posted June 25, 2015 Giving up Vuc and Payton, Arguably our Best young players is INSANE. Period. I am sorry but Russell is Not the next MJ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Catman 380 Report post Posted June 25, 2015 Giving up Vuc and Payton, Arguably our Best young players is INSANE. Period. I am sorry but Russell is Not the next MJ. I don't think this would happen so I wouldn't sweat it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PennysRUs 5 Report post Posted June 25, 2015 If the Magic are a part of this -- I would want it to be something like the Magic get #2 and #6, Lin and Randle while only giving up Vuc, Harkless and #5. To me that helps the Magic just as much as it would help the Kings and Lakers. Anything less than that, the Magic should stay on course and draft whoever at #5. Lakers send Lin, #2 and Randle to Magic Sacramento sends #6 to Magic Magic send Vuc, Harkless and #5 to Kings Lakers send Clarkson and to Kings Kings send Cousins to Lakers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Secretly Space Jesus 670 Report post Posted June 25, 2015 You guys do realize that Vuc is a poison pill, right? So none of the trades that have been suggested work and that any trade with Vooch leaving Orlando is almost certainly dead on arrival. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Better DJ & Photographer 461 Report post Posted June 25, 2015 I would give up Vuc, Payton, and 5 for Russell, a couple of great shooters, and a defensive big that can get us 10/10 in a heartbeat. We are all attached to the team and its growth and success, not individual players (I hope). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Catman 380 Report post Posted June 25, 2015 You guys do realize that Vuc is a poison pill, right? So none of the trades that have been suggested work and that any trade with Vooch leaving Orlando is almost certainly dead on arrival. I don't think there has been one complete trade suggested. I also think that it can't be official until his contract kicks in either, since he currently makes 2million. But multiple people are reporting this is being discussed, so it very likely still is to some extent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TreyMachine 398 Report post Posted June 25, 2015 If the Magic are a part of this -- I would want it to be something like the Magic get #2 and #6, Lin and Randle while only giving up Vuc, Harkless and #5. To me that helps the Magic just as much as it would help the Kings and Lakers. Anything less than that, the Magic should stay on course and draft whoever at #5. I'm actually completely fine with this deal. Somehow I don't see the Kings being fine with it though, as much as we want to believe that Vuc & Harkless have that much value. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dshawg77 1 Report post Posted June 25, 2015 Hi Board, Newbie here. Who does everyone think we SHOULD draft and who does everyone think we WILL draft? Lots of rumors it seems, doubt anything comes of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted June 25, 2015 How are you having a hard time grasping that the discussion most likely involves more than just the key players being named? Exactly. LA DOESN'T HAVE ANYMORE KEY PLAYERS OR DRAFT PICKS You're trying to force a way to get cousins on LA but there's no other value they can add if they're already providing everything. And if Vucevic holds more value to Sacramento than the number 2 pick then we can easily form an offer that beats Randle and Clarkson. And if we don't want cousins we can easily flip him for a better offer than a single number 2 pick. Love on a single year deal got a number one overall, a former number one pick in Bennett, a future first round pick, and a trade exception. Love is on a one year deal You think Vucevic, randle, and Clarkson is enough to get cousins? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fan for too long 2 532 Report post Posted June 25, 2015 I would give up Vuc, Payton, and 5 for Russell, a couple of great shooters, and a defensive big that can get us 10/10 in a heartbeat. We are all attached to the team and its growth and success, not individual players (I hope). I am attached to the Magic for life and have been since the beginning. BUT Payton in my mind is Untouchable. He has the mindset and point guard mentality that I have been waiting on forever and if we give up on him after one year, I may not watch basketball for a long time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrueBlueDrew 75 Report post Posted June 25, 2015 So...what I'm seeing is: LAL Gets: Cousins SAC Gets: Randle, Clarkson, Vucevic ORL Gets: #2 Orlando likely drafts Okafor or Russell Then trades down for a Vet and lower lottery pick? Like Favors or Faried? Then draft? WCS? Mudiay? Johnson? I also saw on ESPN someone said that OKC, Utah, and Denver all are desperate to move up in the draft? If we were to walk away from this draft with Okafor/Russell, WCS/Mudiay, + Favors? You'd likely also look to trade Payton somewhere for another SF/PF (which I love to kid, so I'm not a huge fan of that idea). I would still consider that a A+ from Henny and Management. However, in my opinion, I don't think we do all of that for Okafor because he isn't the best on the defensive side of the ball which is our coaches mindset. All of this is likely smoke, but it's fun to think about. After a couple of years, I think Henny has come out on top with the Howard trade and then he somehow landed Gordon and Payton last year. This guy has a way of pulling something out of nowhere and we end up on the better end. It's unlikely, but I won't rule anything out! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
