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Disclaimer: Post not to be taken seriously, just decided to have some fun with trade machine Don't worry guys...I've figured out how to solve all of our problems Step 1: (Include Nets pick) Step 2: (Includes 2019 Magic pick) Step 3: Eliminates bad contracts Orlando Receives: Reggie Jackson and Malik Monk Charlotte Receives: Aaron Afflalo Detroit Pistons: Biyombo PG -- Smith Jr. / Jackson / Mack SG -- Shumpert / Monk / Simmons SF -- Barnes / Iwundu PF -- Gordon / Faried / Isaac C -- Noel / Speights / Birch Good news is that even if these guys don't pan out, contracts are short. (And yes...I know that Dallas would never trade Smith Jr, but I'm a big fan of this kid) 1st First Round Draft Pick -- Marvin Bagley 2nd First Round Draft Pick -- Michael Porter Jr. Second Round Draft Pick -- Jalen Hudson

Yeah I agree. There is no way we've jumped into the top 6. Maybe top 10? Top Tier: Celtics/Cavs/Raptors/Wizards Middle Tier: Bucks/Heat/Hornets/76ers Bottom Tier: Pistons/Hawks/Bulls/Pacers/Knicks/Nets I think the Magic are in the top part of that Bottom Tier. I think we will be floating around 7-11 most of the year. The Hawks/Knicks/Nets/Pacers are probably going to be in the bottom 4. The Magic/Hornets/76ers/Heat/Pistons are probably going to be battling for those final few playoff spots. The bad news is that the East is totally depleted of star power and the balance, I dont think has ever been stronger on the West than it is right now. The good news is that like 3-4 other teams are just now starting their rebuilds and while we may have just made FO changes, we at least have some pieces in place so we aren't starting with nothing. The bad news is that the team still lacks an identity or center piece to build around and have a bad rep with the rest of the NBA, so free agents don't want come here. The good news...we aren't the Knicks or Nets. So we have that going for us.

Or this one... http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7fjgr29 Combined with this one http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycyeushp

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Knowing what you know now about our roster, how it is filling out. How would you like to see that 8 mil spent? Payton/Mack/DJ Fournier/Simmons/Iwundu Ross/Hezonja Gordon/Isaac Vucevic/Biyombo/Speights I still think a Alex Poythress, Terrance Jones, Aaron Afflalo, Tony Allen would be a good fit for this team. Afflalo if you want to address the offensive woes and Allen if you want keep going with the defensive grind identity. Terrance Jones and Poythress would both be hustle guys who want to prove themselves.

Bismack Biyombo 17,000,000 Evan Fournier 17,000,000 Nikola Vucevic 12,250,000 Terrence Ross 10,500,000 DJ Augustin 7,250,000 Jonathon Simmons 6,300,000 Shelvin Mack 6,000,000 Aaron Gordon 5,504,419 Jonathan Isaac 4,186,320 Mario Hezonja 4,078,320 Elfrid Payton 3,332,340 Patricio Garino 1,312,611 Marcus Georges-Hunt 1,312,611 CJ Watson 1,000,000 Total: 97,026,621 Cap: 98,750,927 Remaining: $1,724,306 So someone explain this to me, if we waive/cut Georges-Hunt and Garino, does that 2.6 mil and change free up? Then we would have around 4.3 mil to spend on free agents if we choose? The money side of things always confuses me, just trying to get a better grip on how much we have to spend.

I think Irving is a pipe-dream. Just like getting Chris Paul all those years ago, the major difference in that conversation was that we actually had a superstar people were attracted to at the time. We currently don't have a superstar anyone is attracted to. I think Gordon can be developed into a guy that could one day be an all-star level talent, but he isn't there yet. However, being an all-star on the East for the next few years will feel totally different than being an all-star on the west. I think Gordon and Fournier need to be who we build around. Everyone else can go. Both Evan and AG have their flaws but their flaws aren't awful. They're manageable as long as the guys remain coachable. I can see both of them take the next steps to be nice pieces in the machine of a playoff team in the NBA. Isaac is an interesting guy. I was impressed with him the little I saw him this year, but I could see him become an Aldridge/Gasol/Love/R. Lewis type player. A big man who can spread the floor and get you rebounds. The thing that you notice immediately is his length and from the videos I've seen him in, seems like he flows naturally on defense. Biyombo/Isaac/Gordon could be a pretty lethal defensive big man combination. With the right coaching, Gordon/Fournier/Isaac could develop into nice pieces for the Magic. However, they still need that superstar. They need a FO and coaching staff that can sell a vision that is appealing to a major player. I'm not entirely sure who that player might be. Maybe the Magic can make a trade for a player who is at the end of their contract for one team and they don't think he will re-up so they rent him for the second half of the season and then try to convince him to recruit another stellar player to join him in Magic Blue? Maybe a trade like this --> LINK Vucevic needs to go in my opinion. I've read the reasons why people want to keep him and why it is difficult to move him right now, but hopefully we can find something that can work. Or maybe the Magic hold onto their cards and trust their coaches to develop and their offseason moves to pan out. Most of the lists I've seen have both Payton and Gordon being top talent players under 25. Who knows, maybe they figure this thing out and Payton, Gordon, Isaac, and Hezonja become the type of players we hope they will become.

So signing Iwundu PG - Payton/Mack/DJ SG - Fournier/Simmons/Iwundu/Georges-Hunt SF - Ross/Hezonja/Garino PF - Gordon/Isaac C - Vucevic/Biyombo/Speights Gordon (RFA) + Hezonja (TO) + Payton (RFA) + Georges-Hunt + Garino (RFA) + assumedly Speights are all free agents Summer 2018 We still have some work to do. I still think a trade and a few waives are in order. Under Henny, I put my faith in the players we were collecting. I liked the nucleus of Payton/Dipo/Harris/AG and then add Vucevic and Hezonja, things seemed promising. With the current roster, I'm putting my faith in a competent front office and coaching staff. Here's hoping we can either make a little magic happen in trades or we can either go full tank next season or reach the playoffs, no more of this lower-middle ground stuff.

I don't mind the Fournier deal, I'd rather deal for a PG that can work with Evan though, but I do like the pieces that come back. Wilson would be great for the direction I think Vogel is taking the team. What about the other deals on that website? Trade 1: Brooklyn Nets receive: Bismack Biyombo, Mario Hezonja, 2019 second-round pick Orlando Magic receive: Trevor Booker Trade 2: Miami Heat receive: Terrence Ross Orlando Magic receive: Tyler Johnson, Okaro White

What value does he have?? I still havent seen anyone defend Hezonja other than to say he was a 5th overall pick and he has potential. Would you rather waste a spot on a guy with potential but no traction and no connection with current coaching staff, or pick from a group of players (Kentucky or not) who have proven they can make a valuable addition to an NBA roster. I dont see value in Hezonja and I think its a stupid move to let him sit on the bench and play the "What If" game.

I'm also asking a lot of other people for names of potential people to finish the roster...yet no one is giving me anything. So before you troll, how about you contribute to the conversation. Thanks.

Are you holding on for something because so far I haven't seen a dang thing from him yet. He looks good in a suit, thats about it. At least send him to the G-League and let him develop there or get his confidence back because right now he is not fitting on an NBA roster other than being able to fit in the seat. OrlandoMagicDaily.com literally has a few articles on him titled "What Went Wrong with Mario Hezonja" and "Mario Hezonja prepares for his last stand in Orlando" Compare that to Alex Poythress who has been averaging 18 pts 7 rbs 1 bk 1 st in his time in the G-League. Was even called up to the 76ers to play a few games and performed well enough to get a summer league play where he again played the perfect role player. His first NBA game against the Toronto Raptors https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at1gd0EjCgc Highlights from the 16-17 season (check out some of those blocks around the 1 minute mark) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr7oQvo6nzA

I counted 13, according to ESPN. They still had Rudez on our roster which is why I included him earlier. We still can consider signing Iwundu too. I personally hope we clear out some of the log jam at SG if we sign Iwundu. Georges-Hunt seemed to have a good summer, but waive Garino. How about this. Payton//Mack//DJ Fournier//MGH//Iwundu Ross//Simmons//Allen//Poythress Gordon//Issac//Jones Vucevic//Biz Cut Garino Cut Hezonja. Let him go back to Europe and be the superstar. His game just doesn't seem like it translates. Sign Tony Allen with the MLE Sign Terrance Jones to a one year 1.5 million dollar contract Sign Alex Poythress to a one year 1.5 millon dollar contract In the offseason, you added a decent backup PG, explosive SG/SF who plays with heart and passion, a gritty defensive minded Vet, a SF/PF who will hustle and grind on defense, and a PF who wants to prove he can stick. Every time Jones is given a chance, he contributes. Averaged 12 pts and 7 rbs for 2 consecutive years for Houston, then they shoved him in the back of the rotation. Then signs with New Orleans and averages 11.5 and 6. He could help us.

That's a good catch. I didn't look at any stats, just thinking back on the games i've seen him in

Who are some of the names that come to mind when you say big/hybrid. I can't really think of any (I guess focusing on the hybrid part). As I said before, Noel is a name that I wouldn't mind seeing us connected with but he is a RFA and I'm Dallas will match anything we can offer. Kyle Wiltjer was released by the Clippers after being traded from Houston. He's super slow on defense and can't rebound, but he can shoot threes. Not what we need. Any other names? Roy Hibbert is on the market. He has a connection with Vogel. Kinda goes against the Small Ball mentality but maybe Vogel can bring something out of him. Gerald Henderson Jordan Hill Terrance Jones Alex Poythress (check out the Sixers summer league highlights. He always makes solid plays, won't shine but will be that locker leader guy like Patrick Patterson)