Drain-O 369 Report post Posted December 10, 2009 http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/29790 quote: Orlando Magic Zone (Orlando) Everyone on tv keeps putting Boston over the Magic> How? Even with all the people that have missed time the Magic have posted the same record, and won the one meeting so far in the season. Are the Celtics actually better then the Magic? John Hollinger (12:33 PM) I think the Magic are better and have thought so since training camp, so you're asking the wrong guy. Celtics have championship mystique in their favor, but their bench was seriously overrated coming into this season. And hey, did you see Marquis Daniels is hurt? Who could have seen that coming? Tommy (Orlando, FL) Is too much emphasis put on "Assists per Game?" PGs like Jameer get criticized for not having a high assist average while playing on such a potent team. But, with so many offensive weapons, shouldn't the PG "run" the offense and not just focus on getting the ball to the scorer, but ensure a fluid, ball-moving offense? Same could be said for other PGs... John Hollinger (12:46 PM) A lot of times PGs on great teams will have low assist #s, because most of those teams have wings or bigs that you can run most of the offense through. This is why the pass-first point guard thing is a bit of a fallacy -- teams win all the time with low-assist PGs whose main role is to score. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drain-O 369 Report post Posted December 10, 2009 http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/29790 quote: Orlando Magic Zone (Orlando) Everyone on tv keeps putting Boston over the Magic> How? Even with all the people that have missed time the Magic have posted the same record, and won the one meeting so far in the season. Are the Celtics actually better then the Magic? John Hollinger (12:33 PM) I think the Magic are better and have thought so since training camp, so you're asking the wrong guy. Celtics have championship mystique in their favor, but their bench was seriously overrated coming into this season. And hey, did you see Marquis Daniels is hurt? Who could have seen that coming? Tommy (Orlando, FL) Is too much emphasis put on "Assists per Game?" PGs like Jameer get criticized for not having a high assist average while playing on such a potent team. But, with so many offensive weapons, shouldn't the PG "run" the offense and not just focus on getting the ball to the scorer, but ensure a fluid, ball-moving offense? Same could be said for other PGs... John Hollinger (12:46 PM) A lot of times PGs on great teams will have low assist #s, because most of those teams have wings or bigs that you can run most of the offense through. This is why the pass-first point guard thing is a bit of a fallacy -- teams win all the time with low-assist PGs whose main role is to score. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jareth Cutestory 678 Report post Posted December 10, 2009 Jho is da troof. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siradam134 8 Report post Posted December 10, 2009 someone create some space for John aboard the bandwagon! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kramer 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2009 Hollinger is a freaking genius. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhnole 153 Report post Posted December 10, 2009 Hollinger needs to find a new employer, he is too knowledgable and unbiased to be working for ESPN. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Penny Hardaway's Ghost 260 Report post Posted December 10, 2009 they love him today, but Tuesday was a different story Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted December 10, 2009 quote: Originally posted by rtillaree:they love him today, but Tuesday was a different story people always hate. its a mathematical formula how can there be bias? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Hi-Top 791 Report post Posted December 10, 2009 quote: Originally posted by Drain-O: quote: John Hollinger (12:46 PM) A lot of times PGs on great teams will have low assist #s, because most of those teams have wings or bigs that you can run most of the offense through. This is why the pass-first point guard thing is a bit of a fallacy -- teams win all the time with low-assist PGs whose main role is to score. But... but... the poll!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2009 I completely agree on the Magic over Celtics argument. I was just saying that yesterday. It seems like most analyst seems to think the Celtics are ahead of the Magic for some reason. Instead of using their eyes and watch the games or their brains and look at the facts before giving opinions. Yeah the Celtics have a good defensive team but the Magic are a better overall team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotByChoice 2 Report post Posted December 10, 2009 Agree 100% with him on the pass first point guard fallacy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drain-O 369 Report post Posted December 10, 2009 quote: Originally posted by echo4papa: quote: Originally posted by Drain-O: quote: John Hollinger (12:46 PM) A lot of times PGs on great teams will have low assist #s, because most of those teams have wings or bigs that you can run most of the offense through. This is why the pass-first point guard thing is a bit of a fallacy -- teams win all the time with low-assist PGs whose main role is to score. But... but... the poll!!!! I guess Hollinger doesn't use the eyeball test. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
