FENDI 4 Report post Posted December 1, 2007 quote: Originally posted by Dwyane007: quote: Originally posted by FENDI: quote: Originally posted by Dwyane007:wow, you guys sound soo happy.... the sad part is that dallas fans were 100000000 times happier than you guys and ended up getting upset... i kno your gonna be like oh yeah, well ur team got swept last year you shouldn't talk we were INJURED like crazy. to be honest with you, if howard was playing with a dislocated shoulder and a messed up knee. you guys wouldn't even make the playoffs.. heck you guys wont even get 10 wins... lets compare shaq's stats to howard's stats EXPERIENCE wise... lets not talk about age, lets talk about NBA experience, this is dwights uhh 3rd year in the legue and he averages 23/15 a game lets break it down howard 1st year 12/10 howard 2nd year 15.8/12.5 howard 3rd year 17.6/12.3 howard now 23.8/15 shaq 1st year.. 23.4/13.9 shaq 2nd year 29.3/13.2 shaq 3rd year 29.3/11.4 shaqs 4th year 26.6/11.0 IF YOU SEE, SHAQS STATS CLEARLY DOMINATES DWIGHT HOWARDS... SHAQ WAS ONLY A REBOUND AWAY FROM WHAT DWIGHT HOWARD IS NOW IN HIS ROOKIE YEAR True, numbers don't lie. But as the quote says, statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital. Shaq came into the league with a year of college experience. That made his transition to the pro game much easier than coming out of highschool. It was also Shaq's team from the get go. While Dwight's primary source of points were out of offensive rebounds. Other than that, it was basically a Steve Francis show. Shaq also came into the league prepared, also with good low post game as compared to that of Dwight. oh.. btw, heat board = then i can say shaq doesent get 30/10 this year cuz wade is the one who does the most scoring.. if there was no wade shaq would be a 30points 15 boards machine.... that can be said before. not now. jeez. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FENDI 4 Report post Posted December 1, 2007 quote: Originally posted by Osprey23: quote: Originally posted by Dwyane007: quote: Originally posted by Osprey23: quote: Originally posted by Jackie Treehorn: quote: Originally posted by Dwyane007: SHAQ'S ROOKIE YEAR STATS ARE THE SAME AS DWIGHTS STATS RIGHT NOW EXCEPT HE HAS 1 REBOUND... NOW TELL ME SOMEONE WHO NEVER PLAYED BASKETBALL PROFFESIONALLY VS SOMEONE WHO HAS 3 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE... THE GUY WHO HAS EXPERIENCE IS ONLY BETTER BY 1 REBOUND.. TO ME, THATS A LITTLE OFF ITS LIKE SAYING DURANT COMES AND AVERAGES SAME AS LEBRON Did you even read what you wrote before you posted it? You just contradicted your own point. You have to realize, Jackie, that logic is a foreign concept to these Heat fans. Besides, you act like Shaq did all that for your franchise. I didn't realize he spent his first years in Miami. That would be like using Rashard Lewis' stats from Seattle to justify him being better than Dwayne Wade, therefore making Orlando > Miami. Oh well, this probably just went over your head. first of all bring all the lashard lewis stats from seattle, and compare them to d-wade's stats.. not this seasons because he is injured but compare any stat of any season against dwyane i bet you dwyane will be better.. and i never said Miami is better than orlando.. my point was that Howard is nothing more than Shaq was.. Shaq was a better player in his 3rd year in the nba and about as good as dwight when he was 21.. Dude, about Shard's stats, its called an analogy, nowhere did I say Shard was better than Wade, I was showing you how useless your argument is. We will never know how Shaq and D12 would have compared if they entered the league at the same time, all that matters is that Dwight is better than Shaq RIGHT NOW, and the Heat are soon becoming an afterthought in the Eastern Conference. And as far as I am concerned, this argument is stupid, because Shaq didn't do anything for the Heat in the years you are talking about. You still haven't answered my question on that. Ill ask you again. What do Shaq stats when he was on the Magic have to do with the MIAMI HEAT? Please, I am awaiting your answer because you seem so anxious to defend Shaqueer when it has nothing to do with your franchise. If anything it should be Magic fans arguing over who was better. quoted for truth. case close. next discussion please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwyane007 0 Report post Posted December 1, 2007 quote: Originally posted by love#12: quote: Originally posted by Osprey23: quote: Originally posted by Dwyane007:wow, you guys sound soo happy.... the sad part is that dallas fans were 100000000 times happier than you guys and ended up getting upset... i kno your gonna be like oh yeah, well ur team got swept last year you shouldn't talk we were INJURED like crazy. to be honest with you, if howard was playing with a dislocated shoulder and a messed up knee. you guys wouldn't even make the playoffs.. heck you guys wont even get 10 wins... lets compare shaq's stats to howard's stats EXPERIENCE wise... lets not talk about age, lets talk about NBA experience, this is dwights uhh 3rd year in the legue and he averages 23/15 a game lets break it down howard 1st year 12/10 howard 2nd year 15.8/12.5 howard 3rd year 17.6/12.3 howard now 23.8/15 shaq 1st year.. 23.4/13.9 shaq 2nd year 29.3/13.2 shaq 3rd year 29.3/11.4 shaqs 4th year 26.6/11.0 IF YOU SEE, SHAQS STATS CLEARLY DOMINATES DWIGHT HOWARDS... SHAQ WAS ONLY A REBOUND AWAY FROM WHAT DWIGHT HOWARD IS NOW IN HIS ROOKIE YEAR You cant evaluate by using NBA experience, Shaq had college to develop his game before entering the league. Dwight is in his fourth year, his senior year of college, so basically, this would realistically be his rookie year. 25 and 14 is pretty solid if you ask me. Go away now, KTHXBAI. Dontforget shaq always had another allstar on his teams,penny,kobe,wade...dwight has never had another allstar to play along side..give him a kobe and you can bank it they would take it all. GO MAGIC!!!!!!!! SHAQ HAD ANOTHER STAR AND STILL AVERAGED MORE POINTS IF NOT THE SAME THAN HOWARD.. IF HE DIDNT HAVE A STAR HIS POINTS WOULD GO HIGHER... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwyane007 0 Report post Posted December 1, 2007 quote: Originally posted by Soul Bro:Poor Heat fans. i'm worried about you guys, y'all dont wanna go through what dallas went through last year do you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Hi-Top 791 Report post Posted December 1, 2007 quote: Originally posted by Dwyane007: quote: Originally posted by Jackie Treehorn: quote: Originally posted by Dwyane007: SHAQ'S ROOKIE YEAR STATS ARE THE SAME AS DWIGHTS STATS RIGHT NOW EXCEPT HE HAS 1 REBOUND... NOW TELL ME SOMEONE WHO NEVER PLAYED BASKETBALL PROFFESIONALLY VS SOMEONE WHO HAS 3 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE... THE GUY WHO HAS EXPERIENCE IS ONLY BETTER BY 1 REBOUND.. TO ME, THATS A LITTLE OFF ITS LIKE SAYING DURANT COMES AND AVERAGES SAME AS LEBRON Did you even read what you wrote before you posted it? You just contradicted your own point. lol, you have no answer for what i said so you just come and say something off topic, i know i repeated something because i wanted to prove a point and Osprey23 or w.e didnt read what i wrote.. I'm sory as sad as this kid is, this reply here is the MOST telling... He doesn't even know what contradicted means, he thinks you are telling him that he repeated himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwyane007 0 Report post Posted December 1, 2007 quote: Originally posted by echo4papa: quote: Originally posted by Dwyane007: quote: Originally posted by Jackie Treehorn: quote: Originally posted by Dwyane007: SHAQ'S ROOKIE YEAR STATS ARE THE SAME AS DWIGHTS STATS RIGHT NOW EXCEPT HE HAS 1 REBOUND... NOW TELL ME SOMEONE WHO NEVER PLAYED BASKETBALL PROFFESIONALLY VS SOMEONE WHO HAS 3 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE... THE GUY WHO HAS EXPERIENCE IS ONLY BETTER BY 1 REBOUND.. TO ME, THATS A LITTLE OFF ITS LIKE SAYING DURANT COMES AND AVERAGES SAME AS LEBRON Did you even read what you wrote before you posted it? You just contradicted your own point. lol, you have no answer for what i said so you just come and say something off topic, i know i repeated something because i wanted to prove a point and Osprey23 or w.e didnt read what i wrote.. I'm sory as sad as this kid is, this reply here is the MOST telling... He doesn't even know what contradicted means, he thinks you are telling him that he repeated himself. my bad.. i read it wrong, and how did i contradict my point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Osprey 199 Report post Posted December 1, 2007 quote: I'm sory as sad as this kid is, this reply here is the MOST telling... He doesn't even know what contradicted means, he thinks you are telling him that he repeated himself. You're right, good call as usual Echo. You're quickly becoming one of my favorite posters. Anyway, I'm done trying to argue logic to idiocy, i'll just wait for the next Heat hopeful to come and try to take a shot at the champ, lol. So far in this thread, Tragic-2, Heat-0 PWNED!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwyane007 0 Report post Posted December 1, 2007 quote: Originally posted by Osprey23: quote: I'm sory as sad as this kid is, this reply here is the MOST telling... He doesn't even know what contradicted means, he thinks you are telling him that he repeated himself. You're right, good call as usual Echo. You're quickly becoming one of my favorite posters. Anyway, I'm done trying to argue logic to idiocy, i'll just wait for the next Heat hopeful to come and try to take a shot at the champ, lol. So far in this thread, Tragic-2, Heat-0 PWNED!!! LOL HOW DID YOU OWN ME, I JUST READ THE SENTENCE WRONG,, I GOT MY POINT ACROSS PRETTY GOOD AND ALL YOU GUYS COME UP WITH IS OFF TOPIC STUFF... STICK TO THE TOPIC SON Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soul Bro 1,422 Report post Posted December 1, 2007 quote: Originally posted by Dwyane007: quote: Originally posted by love#12: quote: Originally posted by Osprey23: quote: Originally posted by Dwyane007:wow, you guys sound soo happy.... the sad part is that dallas fans were 100000000 times happier than you guys and ended up getting upset... i kno your gonna be like oh yeah, well ur team got swept last year you shouldn't talk we were INJURED like crazy. to be honest with you, if howard was playing with a dislocated shoulder and a messed up knee. you guys wouldn't even make the playoffs.. heck you guys wont even get 10 wins... lets compare shaq's stats to howard's stats EXPERIENCE wise... lets not talk about age, lets talk about NBA experience, this is dwights uhh 3rd year in the legue and he averages 23/15 a game lets break it down howard 1st year 12/10 howard 2nd year 15.8/12.5 howard 3rd year 17.6/12.3 howard now 23.8/15 shaq 1st year.. 23.4/13.9 shaq 2nd year 29.3/13.2 shaq 3rd year 29.3/11.4 shaqs 4th year 26.6/11.0 IF YOU SEE, SHAQS STATS CLEARLY DOMINATES DWIGHT HOWARDS... SHAQ WAS ONLY A REBOUND AWAY FROM WHAT DWIGHT HOWARD IS NOW IN HIS ROOKIE YEAR You cant evaluate by using NBA experience, Shaq had college to develop his game before entering the league. Dwight is in his fourth year, his senior year of college, so basically, this would realistically be his rookie year. 25 and 14 is pretty solid if you ask me. Go away now, KTHXBAI. Dontforget shaq always had another allstar on his teams,penny,kobe,wade...dwight has never had another allstar to play along side..give him a kobe and you can bank it they would take it all. GO MAGIC!!!!!!!! SHAQ HAD ANOTHER STAR AND STILL AVERAGED MORE POINTS IF NOT THE SAME THAN HOWARD.. IF HE DIDNT HAVE A STAR HIS POINTS WOULD GO HIGHER... Not true. Look at his play w/o Wade ... VERY average. Why? B/c teams simply double him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emory889 353 Report post Posted December 1, 2007 Am I the only one that finds it hysterical that a Heat fan is using Stuff as his avator? LMAO, we got Heat trolls and Spurs trolls and a Pistons fan that is on our side all in one thread. I have absolutely no idea what is going on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soul Bro 1,422 Report post Posted December 1, 2007 Dwayne007, your emotions let on like you are pretty young. Even if you are not, I like your enthusiasm for your team. Every team could use more fans like you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
