JJZFL 619 Report post Posted January 30 13 minutes ago, Jay Magic said: 8 minutes ago, fan for too long 2 said: Jett not playing for the Magic this year is tragic. Wasn’t Trevelin Queen the G League MVP recently? Unfortunately you just can’t reliably extrapolate performances in that league to the NBA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay Magic 1,247 Report post Posted January 30 9 minutes ago, fan for too long 2 said: Jett not playing for the Magic this year is tragic. I think he may do so. But after the all-star break Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fan for too long 2 531 Report post Posted January 30 5 minutes ago, JJZFL said: Wasn’t Trevelin Queen the G League MVP recently? Unfortunately you just can’t reliably extrapolate performances in that league to the NBA. We didn’t pick queen with the 11th pick in the draft. Extrapolate that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fan for too long 2 531 Report post Posted January 30 6 minutes ago, Jay Magic said: I think he may do so. But after the all-star break Your optimism has no limits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay Magic 1,247 Report post Posted January 30 5 minutes ago, fan for too long 2 said: Your optimism has no limits. Jett fits seamlessly for me... But we will see. I like to manifest certain things yes hahahaha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJZFL 619 Report post Posted January 30 7 hours ago, fan for too long 2 said: We didn’t pick queen with the 11th pick in the draft. Extrapolate that. It’s not relevant to what I said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orlandoholic 134 Report post Posted January 30 Poor Pet Beverley just lost by 30 with his big baby Embiid. He played 30 minutes and was a -25 doing so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ball junkie 277 Report post Posted January 30 https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/worst-plus-minus-orlando-magic-players If you’re a believer in plus minus it’s very interesting who’s at the top of this list …these are season totals …of course if you watch the team no surprise who’s the best …it goes from the top the worst on the team to the bottom whom are the best Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazyhorse81 247 Report post Posted January 31 6 hours ago, ball junkie said: https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/worst-plus-minus-orlando-magic-players If you’re a believer in plus minus it’s very interesting who’s at the top of this list …these are season totals …of course if you watch the team no surprise who’s the best …it goes from the top the worst on the team to the bottom whom are the best If you could excuse my ignorance, but is +/- normalized like per x-minutes or something? Because otherwise it makes sense that JI has such good numbers, as he's hardly played. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ball junkie 277 Report post Posted January 31 49 minutes ago, Crazyhorse81 said: If you could excuse my ignorance, but is +/- normalized like per x-minutes or something? Because otherwise it makes sense that JI has such good numbers, as he's hardly played. Not ignorant at all …good question …and agree with you in that it doesn’t take a rocket scientist if you watch the Magic to know what player makes the greatest impact …and it’s not close re JI …my understanding of plus minus is that when a player, any player is on the court it takes into account of whether the entire team out scores the opponent or the opponent outscores in this case the Magic . What is mind boggling to me is the names at the top …not AB mind you …but Suggs decisively at the top and Banchero solidly in second . It also lists games played, minutes per game etc etc …was reading a few days ago on another site talking about the Magic numbers when Banchero was on the court but I just kinda glossed over it …this little nugget got my attention . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soul Bro 1,419 Report post Posted January 31 19 minutes ago, ball junkie said: Not ignorant at all …good question …and agree with you in that it doesn’t take a rocket scientist if you watch the Magic to know what player makes the greatest impact …and it’s not close re JI …my understanding of plus minus is that when a player, any player is on the court it takes into account of whether the entire team out scores the opponent or the opponent outscores in this case the Magic . What is mind boggling to me is the names at the top …not AB mind you …but Suggs decisively at the top and Banchero solidly in second . It also lists games played, minutes per game etc etc …was reading a few days ago on another site talking about the Magic numbers when Banchero was on the court but I just kinda glossed over it …this little nugget got my attention . I think you missed Crazy's question. No, this stat does not take into account minutes played or the context of those minutes. Thus, while JI has been a huge difference maker in the minutes/games he's played, he's played far fewer minutes/games than the other regulars. Additionally, he's played a lot of those minutes against backups off the bench. As to the games moving forward, I think it's a no brainer to start him like the last game. That lineup, assuming JI can stay healthy, is incredible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ball junkie 277 Report post Posted January 31 32 minutes ago, Soul Bro said: I think you missed Crazy's question. No, this stat does not take into account minutes played or the context of those minutes. Thus, while JI has been a huge difference maker in the minutes/games he's played, he's played far fewer minutes/games than the other regulars. Additionally, he's played a lot of those minutes against backups off the bench. As to the games moving forward, I think it's a no brainer to start him like the last game. That lineup, assuming JI can stay healthy, is incredible. All that data is listed …but the plus minus is only for the time you’re on the court that is correct, be it a lot of minutes or not so many …still doesn’t change the numbers …it counts how the team does when x player is on the court be it scoring more or less than your opponent …now if you wanna say he played against backups go for for it …but I think we all know with JI does not matter lol …we all saw what he did to Durant and Doncic on back to back nights the last two nights Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
