Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted December 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, magicdoc1 said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/heavy.com/sports/2018/12/lonzo-ball-anthony-davis/amp/ this is where likely Catalina got that info. That's also from a tweet from "bleacher repot" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magicdoc1 261 Report post Posted December 10, 2018 I saw it during the weekend. It makes sense but are we willing to give Vuch for Ball and KCP? It will likely kill our chances to make the playoff. I am all in with this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted December 10, 2018 Just now, magicdoc1 said: I saw it during the weekend. It makes sense but are we willing to give Vuch for Ball and KCP? It will likely kill our chances to make the playoff. I am all in with this. Yeah. I think Ball could replicate vucevic's offense just by getting Gordon, Isaac, and Bamba easy buckets that they're currently not getting because we don't have anyone who can pass Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Odin 137 Report post Posted December 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, ?4thewin said: Yeah. I think Ball could replicate vucevic's offense just by getting Gordon, Isaac, and Bamba easy buckets that they're currently not getting because we don't have anyone who can pass Ball isn’t a ball hog either, so our offense should be able to continue with the amount of motion in it. And he pushes the ball in transition, which our team is missing right now. It seems like the only guy who really pushes the ball in transition often is Gordon right now. (We are towards the bottom in transition offense frequency and points per transition offense attempt) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted December 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, Odin said: Ball isn’t a ball hog either, so our offense should be able to continue with the amount of motion in it. And he pushes the ball in transition, which our team is missing right now. It seems like the only guy who really pushes the ball in transition often is Gordon right now. (We are towards the bottom in transition offense frequency and points per transition offense attempt) A lot of that has to do with DJ being risk averse. He'll back out of a fast break to just set up the offense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Better DJ & Photographer 457 Report post Posted December 10, 2018 Back to the value of 2nd round picks post... I think timing has a lot to do with the value too. I would have loved to have had a couple of earlier 2nds in the last draft and been able to try out a couple of the PGs that went before our picks. IMO those 2nds would have been a lot more valuable than 2nds will be this year for us after we have already secured our PG. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted December 10, 2018 21 minutes ago, ROCK LEGENDS PHOTOGRAPHERS said: Back to the value of 2nd round picks post... I think timing has a lot to do with the value too. I would have loved to have had a couple of earlier 2nds in the last draft and been able to try out a couple of the PGs that went before our picks. IMO those 2nds would have been a lot more valuable than 2nds will be this year for us after we have already secured our PG. I think you keep projecting what you wanted. If we wanted brunson, Carter, or okobo we would have traded up. I mean the 34th pick went for a 2019 second and a 2023 second. Weltman or Hammond (correctly or incorrectly) liked briscoe more. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Odin 137 Report post Posted December 10, 2018 1 hour ago, ?4thewin said: A lot of that has to do with DJ being risk averse. He'll back out of a fast break to just set up the offense. Yeah, and Ball is the complete opposite in that regard. He loves to get out in transition and push the ball. If you are talking about easy points, there are some easy points that we are missing. And other guys have the opportunity to push the ball too, but it often seems like it is only really after a Gordon rebound that our guys are running up the court trying to get the opposing offense out of order for an easy basket. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Okethree 76 Report post Posted December 10, 2018 Would y’all do Vuc and a first for ball? The more I think about it he’s just the perfect young pg for us. Pick have some protection.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted December 10, 2018 1 hour ago, ?4thewin said: Yeah. I think Ball could replicate vucevic's offense just by getting Gordon, Isaac, and Bamba easy buckets that they're currently not getting because we don't have anyone who can pass Man can you imagine the fast breaks and the outlet passes? Only downsides are we’d lose that half court offense that usually occurs in the playoffs and Bamba might not be ready to be a full time starter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rekraprovert 6 Report post Posted December 10, 2018 Is Ball considered a good defender? I haven't really watched him much to this point to see for myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Odin 137 Report post Posted December 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, rekraprovert said: Is Ball considered a good defender? I haven't really watched him much to this point to see for myself. Using last year's #s, the Lakers were 3 points per 100 possessions better on defense with Ball on the court than off the court (via 82games). Last year, opposing players shot 3.3% lower than their yearly averages when he was the main defender. This hasn't been as high this year, but he isn't a problem on the defensive end. His size allows him to switch easily as well, and he is a smart player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites