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  1. 2018 NBA Draft Thread

    Fair, all of drafting is based on the idea of up-side and what the player can be in the NBA though. Plus, it isn't like center isn't an area of concern. Vuch and Biyombo are probably the most criticized players still on the roster. I also think the "Bamba" prototype is a player we have often seen be successful before- super long and tall big man with above average athleticism (he moves pretty well though he isn't in the upper echelon of athletes in the league, he also isn't a stiff) and good defensive instincts. Add his potentially good shot and his skill around the rim and you should have a very very good player in the league.
  2. 2018 NBA Draft Thread

    Point guard is not a bigger need. Plus, always take the best player available, especially at the top of the draft.
  3. 2018 NBA Draft Thread

    Vuch only has one year left on his contract. It would be stupid not to take Bamba because of a player on an expiring contract.
  4. 2018 NBA Draft Thread

    Cool. Thanks for pointing them all out. There is no such thing, so don't be facetious. There are, however, players who I think have more skills that should be NBA translatable and have a better chance of being elite or at least starter quality. There are good bets and bad bets. For example, betting on heads or tails is a much better bet than betting on one outcome from a six-sided dice which is better than betting on a specific card to be pulled from a normal 52 deck of cards. And at spot 5 or 6, where we will probably be drafting, the likelihood of us getting a franchise savior is small. I would grab one of Doncic, Ayton, or JJJ for sure if they are available at our pick. Bamba and Mikal Bridges are also intriguing and look like they should at least be starters in the league. I would also be concerned about Bagley, who might end up being an athletic Jahil Okafor. I am interested in some of the guys lower in the draft, but would want to hear more about them after combine and workouts. But the main thrust of my post above wasn't that Trae will definitely be bad, or anything of the sort. Trae might end up very good, and I would not be too surprised. I would just be less surprised if he didn't. The point was that a group of board members seems to have already anointed him as the savior of the franchise, the next Steph Curry and are blind to any criticism. Temper your expectations. We all want a star, but if the player does not end up being the star, than what are they? What are the chances they hit that peak vs the chance that they hit the median of all possibilities, and where is that median? I guess I get annoyed by this type of hype that seems to blind people to the faults of the one they are hyping and to the possibilities that exist outside of the hyped. There are a lot of posts here that instead of discussing the merits, the possibilities, and the faults of many prospects just echo echo echo ever building praise for Trae Young: Trae is who we should draft; Trae will be an All-Star; Trae will fix all of our problems; Trae will be the next Steph Curry; No, will be better than Steph Curry, Trae will be God. Anyway, my favorite prospect is Doncic (you could probably tell if you looked back in my post history a bit). I think a good way to think about him is a bit like what we thought Mario could be, with less athleticism, but with more data/experience to back up his bonefides. I think that he has a very good chance to at least be a good starter on pretty much any team with star potential to boot though he has his own issues.
  5. 2018 NBA Draft Thread

    36% 3 point shooting sure is. Right. Because betting on players who have already shown ability in the NBA is the same as betting on a not yet drafted college player. How many players with deficiencies like Young become good or even average at defense?
  6. 2018 NBA Draft Thread

    I find it strange how obsessed so many of the board members seem to be with Young. He has so many obvious deficiencies, and, as hot as his start was, he was not able to keep his production up against weaker competition than he will see in the NBA. His efficiency is mediocre, not good. His turnover rate is very high. He is not very athletic and does not have size. His defense is poor. His decision making can be shaky. Yes, many of these issues are fixable, but that does not mean they will be fixed. Yes, becoming the next "Steve Nash" or etc. is within the realm of possibility for him, but that does not mean it is a forgone conclusion, or even a likely outcome. The hyperbole. The excuse making for and blind eye towards his faults. the attempts to turn the average into extraordinary. I think it is the most I have seen for any NBA prospect on this board. The only times I have seen anything close is when a player is an almost guaranteed number 1 pick.
  7. 2018 NBA Draft Thread

    Haha, see my edit. And the comment stated Young was the best PG prospect for the next few years, which I disagree with. If he was, he'd probably be going #1. And Doncic doesn't have the same limitations as Young does though.
  8. 2018 NBA Draft Thread

    Doncic. Edit: Not saying we will be in range to draft him.
  9. 2018 Watch the Playoffs thread

    So, anyone feel like these playoffs so far are a make up for last year's playoffs? Only one team swept in the first round, and it was an amazing tour de force from one of the best players in the game AND from an under the radar player in Holiday. Plus, it was a 6th seed sweeping a 3rd seed, which you don't see every day. In the East, three of the four series are tied at 2-2. The Cavs look very beatable, where it might not be surprising to see them knocked out of the first round. The other series (Philly-Miami) has a young team having its coming out party, running roughshod over a veteran team. In the West, Houston has lost a game to the Timberwolves, who barely squeezed into the playoffs. Golden State (without Curry) lost a game to the Spurs (without Kawhi) after blitzing teams last year in the playoffs, losing only one game.
  10. 2018 Watch the Playoffs thread

    Their big men are killing it though, and he is doing a fine job outside of shooting.
  11. I would just try out of bounds alley oops every time. Full court. What do you mean that would be a bad idea?
  12. 2018 Watch the Playoffs thread

    Let’s go Pacers.
  13. 2018 Watch the Playoffs thread

    Davis is good.
  14. 2018 Watch the Playoffs thread

    Of course, they just need a coach that can figure out how to actually do something with all of the talent that the Timberwolves have. I feel most coaches could barely squeak into the playoffs with that roster.
  15. 2018 NBA Draft Thread

    I am fine NOT getting Trae. Looks too much like he might be a boom or bust type player.