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  1. Odin

    2019 Offseason Thread

    Don’t we still have one more normal roster spot? I thought Jefferies was in play for that spot.
  2. Odin

    2019 Offseason Thread

    Yeah, don't think that the projection is perfect, but it is trying to get the "average season". While they mess around with their CARMELO ratings every year, their model does do a good job of predicting on average what is going to happen with individual players.
  3. Odin

    2019 Offseason Thread

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/our-way-too-early-projections-for-the-2019-20-nba-season/ FiveThirtyEight has us projected at 42-40 next season and the 6th team in the East.
  4. Odin

    2019 Offseason Thread

    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27125793/these-kids-ticking-bombs-threat-youth-basketball Interesting article that might explain the rise in injuries recently, especially of big injuries with rookies. This goes beyond the "young players are soft" thinking. To sum up: 1. Over-specialization. Kids are getting too much wear and tear on their bodies at a young age by really only playing one sport (in this case basketball). This creates excessive wear on the body from doing similar movements over and over again. 2. Little down time. One of the examples used was how older players back in the 90s and before didn't do as much off season training as today. This helped protect their bodies from extra wear and tear as well. A lot of youth players and NBA players are going 8 months or more with lots of games. 3. Lack of focus on basics. Lots of young players focus on being able to pull off highlight type plays (think dunks), but not on everything else around it- for example, how to land. 4. Too much too soon. Many young players do too much before their bodies have fully developed and are ready to take on more strenuous activity.
  5. Odin

    2019 Offseason Thread

    Because you still need a 3rd center? We are only paying him about double the vet minimum- which is not that much money. At 3 million a year, he is also very tradeable. This is not a short-sighted move at all. It gives us a great insurance back-up for whenever we want to or need to sit either Vuch or Bamba, and keeps us with a very tradeable asset.
  6. Odin

    2019 Offseason Thread

    Guys. Very few 2nd year players play all summer league games. Especially if they are high draft picks. In fact, many first year players don't play all summer league games. This isn't about babying. What is the point of playing them more summer league games (besides that the fans want to see them)? Don't get yourselves worked up over nothing.
  7. Odin

    2019 Offseason Thread

    Everyone does remember that Isaac only played like 2 summer league games last year, right? We saw some good stuff from Bamba, and some stuff that he still needs to improve. We already have a good idea of what he can and cannot do. Why create extra risk of injury if it is not needed? He is just coming back from a leg fracture as a 7 footer. (Am I crazy or something?)
  8. Odin

    2019 Offseason Thread

    Yes, it ignores intelligent positioning. Two areas I think it misses most. 1) incredibly intelligent player who is very good positionally and who, therefore, doesn't get as many shots as expected put up against. For example, think of a Marc Gasol type. His defensive stats are not that amazing, either here or counting stat wise. But he always makes the teams he is with better defensively through his positioning. 2) the chasers/ out of positioners. These are the guys that gamble for example on blocks or who are often out of position, thus no longer being the closest defender. In these situations, their teammates are "punished" trying to cover for them when defending against a more "open" shot. E.G., Player A jumps out to block a shot (lets say around the free-throw line and gets off his feet. The opposing player either drives around this player or passes to a now open player closer to the basket. Player B is now forced to rotate to the player that is suddenly open. Player B is credited as being the closest defender, even though it is Player A who played the poor defense that allowed the opposing team to get good positioning.
  9. Odin

    2019 Offseason Thread

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/a-better-way-to-evaluate-nba-defense/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app An interesting different measurement of defense that tries to put the NBA tracking stats into context. It still isn't perfect, but helps paint another picture of defense.
  10. Odin

    2019 Offseason Thread

    Then why do it? That would be a bad trade to move most of your young assets for a player that will decline sooner rather than later, who will swallow up any cap space, and who hasn't shown an ability to get his team to a home court advantage or even to the second round as the main guy. (I am not saying Gordon is better than Westbrook, but 24 year old Gordon on less than 20 a year is better than 31 year old Westbrook at 40+ per year).
  11. Odin

    2019 Offseason Thread

    They also had to give away 2 second rounders. Is that worth it for a back up?
  12. Odin

    2019 Offseason Thread

    Or that. Even if Mozgov is the third center (or either of those two) though, I don't think they are likely to get many minutes.
  13. Odin

    2019 Offseason Thread

    Birch wants to play and resigning him would probably push us over the cap. Love the guy, but, even if we don't sign anyone else, we have options. Always can use Isaac, Gordon, or Aminu as a 3rd center for small minutes and could resign Amile Jefferson for cheap/on a two-way for that final spot.
  14. Odin

    2019 Offseason Thread

    Because we were more looking for a Martin upgrade and replacement. Lamb is more of a 2-3. At least that is how I see it.
  15. Odin

    2019 Offseason Thread

    So, my thoughts with the team being basically set going forward. (Not that they are much different than anyone elses) 1) Ouch that Vuch contract. Not very trade-able if we need to move him. We are paying him almost Jokic money, which makes sense if you look at it through the lens of they are both big Eastern European centers who are offensive specialists who centered playoff teams. But doesn't make sense when one is a generational talent offensively who still potentially has room to grow and brought his team to the 4th best record in the league and almost to the conference finals, while the other has reached his ceiling and was a non-entity in the playoffs. 2) Like that we brought back Ross. I think the money is fair. I have read a few arguments online that we are overpaying for a contract year performance, but we are basically giving him the same money as he was making before, and he was effective (just not scoring-wise) in the 2018 season before being injured. 3) Bah on the Aminu signing. Not that big on it, but it is whatever. 4) Tradeable contracts. Besides Vuch, I think just about every one of our contracts are pretty trade-able at this time- and I am talking more about the non-rookie contracts here (rookie contracts are basically always tradeable). Ross at 13.5 per year for four years is perfect for his type of player, and the contract will only get better as time goes on. Aminu at 9 per year is digestible for any team needing a "3" and D type of player close to the deadline, which there always are. Gordon's contract has always been trade-able if needed- I think that there are very few teams that he wouldn't fit into as well. DJ for one more year at 9 is perfect for a back up sweet shooting point guard- in fact he might have the most tradeable contract if not for him being expiring after this year. Fournier's contract is not that onerous anymore, with 2 years left at 17 million (After this off-season, I think it will barely be a top 100 contract in money per year.). Mozgov is pretty tradeable for anyone looking to get rid of money next year. I assume MCW and Birch (if brought back) will not have contracts that are that big. Basically, the only "bad" contract we will have on the books is Vuch's.
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