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  1. 2017-2018 Official Season Discussion Thread

    I think it is fair to look at pre-season "success" with suspicion. I think it is also fair to look at improvements in play style and tactics and see potential for real success. I think Aaron Gordon will be really good this year and modest improvements from other players plus better schemes suited to our players will equal more success- but I also think a lot of the season will depend upon the adjustments Vogel makes or does not make as the season goes on. I really really hope that this is the year that everything starts to come together though.
  2. 2017-2018 Official Season Discussion Thread

    I have to say, I am much happier with the Afflalo signing over a Jeff Green/ Ben Gordon type. One, we are paying him less, which is always a plus. But more importantly, he is the type of vet you want to have on your team, a guy that has been very professional his entire career. It also doesn't hurt that he is still probably a better player than 2016-2017 Jeff Green (though he was obviously not very good last year either), but will most likely not get much playing time as we have better players in front of him.
  3. 2017-2018 Official Season Discussion Thread

    So how long until we are the champs?
  4. 2017-2018 Official Season Discussion Thread

    Should improve with stronger Guard/wing defenders. Also, no Jeff Green. That is a huge improvement.
  5. 2017-2018 Official Season Discussion Thread

    Same here- trying to tell myself to be less hyped as it will probably end in disappointment like the last few years but - AARON GORDON IS GOING TO BE AN ABSOLUTE BEAST AND ALL OF THE REST OF THE GUYS ARE GOING TO BE GOOD AND WE ARE GOING TO WIN (more) GAMES!
  6. 2017-2018 Official Season Discussion Thread

    I'd rather he get a 2nd contract Curry type deal signed before the season starts :-).
  7. 2017-2018 Official Season Discussion Thread

    Eh, a lot of those players will likely stay with the teams they are currently on, which can pay over the cap, leaving much fewer players on the open market. There will be at least one team out there with cap space that misses out on getting one of the stars and who will overpay for a consolidation prize. Not saying that he will get a max contract, but I don't think your reasoning is why he won't.
  8. 2017-2018 Official Season Discussion Thread

    I know- I am just saying that the market seems to be over-valuing potential right now- for the reasons stated- which has made players like Gordon likely more expensive.
  9. 2017-2018 Official Season Discussion Thread

    So I am not getting these max contracts to guys coming off of their rookie contracts without having shown enough- no all-nbas, no all star selections, no playoff success. (This includes our guys, potentially). They are being paid still for potential that they may never reach- getting high potential guys is always good, but it is good because they should be cheap. I mean, I do get it, teams are afraid the players will flee to a higher bidder if they don't offer the max- but is that smart in the long run? Is that how successful teams are run? I get giving a player like Anthony Davis a max contract- he had dragged New Orleans to the playoffs and been an All-Star and All-NBA player. Or Paul George who had also gotten All-star and All-NBA nods and played in the playoffs. But these players getting them now- what have they done to earn these types of contracts? Why are teams paying so much for potential that may never be filled (especially concerning is Embiid's health. I hope the guy can stay healthy as he looks like he could be a fun player to watch, but Philly will likely be stuck as a mediocre team if he can never stay healthy (I assume Simmons and Fultz will be able to drag the team into the playoffs by themselves over the next two seasons at least)) Maybe I am being an old stick in the mud, but the player should actually have accomplished something to be getting a max contract. Gordon probably should be getting around $100m (and even that seems high to me), but will probably get more because teams have collectively decided to overpay for potential.
  10. 2017-2018 Official Season Discussion Thread

    I like that Vogel is using this time to experiment with line ups (love Gordon at the 5, I think for short periods of time he would be able to change the structure of the game). I hope Vogel pushes himself out of his comfort zone this year as the best coaches tend to be the coaches willing to experiment and create the best situation for their players.
  11. 2017-2018 Official Season Discussion Thread

    What I don't get is the idea that playing him at SF last year hurt his progress. Sure, he didn't look as good as he had previously- he didn't make the jump that was expected with more minutes, but none of what he was doing should hurt him going forward. We saw that he was able to take over games on the occasion. We saw that he was able to handle the ball without turning it over (his turnover percentage actually went down). We saw that he was comfortable taking any defensive assignment handed to him. Yes, there are areas that did not go as well as we would have liked- his shooting wasn't there, he struggled to be a true facilitator. His rebounding went down. His blocks and Steals went down. But I think that he showed a lot of good things that he can build on beyond the "just screen, cut, and finish" type stuff that they seem to want to box him into. He is great at that stuff and we should run more of that for him, but he has some rough other skills that should be beneficial for the team if used properly.
  12. 2017-2018 Official Season Discussion Thread

    I think the national media is sleeping on him as a major break out candidate this year- but maybe I am just being a homer.
  13. TBN Fantasy League on ESPN

    Yeah, I'd love to participate, but I know that I won't be able to keep up this year.
  14. TBN Fantasy League on ESPN

    Hey, I am not going to be able to participate this year, school+work is getting crazy. Can you all find someone to take over my team?
  15. 2017-2018 Official Season Discussion Thread

    It sounds defeated- he has been here the longest, and hasn't seen any success at all. I understand it mentally, loss after loss after loss can be demotivating. But it is completely unacceptable from a player, especially one who likes to think of himself as a leader. Once you start thinking that way, it is over. And the worst part of it is that type of thought can be contagious and affect the rest of the team (this is basic behavioral management). If anything this increases my desire to see him gone. Maybe on a different team he can regain his belief- but we don't need him dragging the rest of the team down. I will wait to see if it was taken out of context, but I am not going to hold my breath.
  16. 2017-2018 Official Season Discussion Thread

    Sounds good. Lets pack it up and go home. (Seriously, I don't care if the fans don't have playoff expectations, but a player not having playoff expectations? That sounds like defeat already. (I understand that this might be a bit of an overreaction- but it is one thing to think it and another to say it)).
  17. 2017 Official Offseason Thread

    Good assistant coach mediocre hc. Did his best work taking over for D'antoni in Phoenix.
  18. IRMA

    Hope everyone is preparing down there, Irma looks like she could end up being a nasty one.
  19. 2017 Official Offseason Thread

    I would probably take the over on that if I wanted to bet. I think we are going to be around 35-36 wins this year unless everything falls apart again (which it might! (knocking on all of the wood))
  20. 2017 Official Offseason Thread

    While improving the bench is important, I think to truly see improvement in wins, we need to have better performance from the starters, as they will still be soaking up the majority of the minutes.
  21. 2017 Official Offseason Thread

    I mean they are on the same team and both were starters. I am pretty sure they both had fairly equivalent time spent playing in "garbage time" and "meaningful minutes". Anyway, I prefer TS% as it takes into account free throw shooting, awarding good free throw shooters who can get contact- thus a better indicator of how efficiently players can get points. Under TS%, Vuch is almost in the bottom percentile and only Zach Randolph had a higher usage rate (of players who played meaningful minutes) and was below him. I think a greater problem, and the reason Vuch gets more shots than he probably should, is that we don't have any really efficient players on the team to go to, so, even though he is low on the list, the other players aren't much higher.
  22. 2017 Official Offseason Thread

    Always. You buying? :-)
  23. 2017 Official Offseason Thread

    Hey serious conversations only mister.
  24. 2017 Official Offseason Thread

    How is that fixed? Biyombo is one of the better screen-setters in the league with 6.5 "screen assists" per 48 minutes last year and is more than adequate around the hoop where he scores at 68%. The issue is everywhere else. He can be helpful to an offense rather than detrimental (though his real value will always be on defense) if he is used properly. Come on don't make silly comments for the sake of silly comments.
  25. 2017 Official Offseason Thread

    Biyombo on offense should basically just screen and roll to the hoop.
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