Soul Bro 1,423 Report post Posted January 7, 2017 [/size]http://hoopshabit.co...-teams-trade/3/ Gordon, Payton, and Vooch seems like an overpay for Butler, but there are probably other teams (Boston) who would pay that price and more. Boston could include Bradley, Crowder and Brooklyn's pick, which is a fantastic offer and better than our offer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthi32 2 Report post Posted January 7, 2017 http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zgjd5bl Flip Green with Fournier and add our LAL-Pick to CHI Payton/Augustin Butler/Meeks Gordon/Green Dieng/Gordon Biz/Vuc And after that we could trade Payton an Vuc for a starter PG and a backup C (Dragic & Reed). Dragic/Augustin Butler/Meeks Gordon/Green Dieng/Gordon Biz/Reed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magicblue 315 Report post Posted January 7, 2017 Yeah you don't move Fournier unless someone like McCollum or Butler is coming back. I mean yes and no. Fournier is a third option, playing 1st/2nd option right now, and we suck. I think I'd include him in almost any deal that yields a potentially high draft pick that could become a #1/#2 option, or even a solid #2 option. Evan is good, but he's not anywhere close to great. That said, we have to do something. We've been throwing playoffs out there since the summer and this current team is not making the playoffs. Either shift gears, make trades for the future, and start developing/tanking or make deals that will improve us now. I lean towards mortgaging for the future because even if we manage to sneak in the playoffs we will not be contenders anytime soon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted January 7, 2017 http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zgjd5bl Flip Green with Fournier and add our LAL-Pick to CHI Payton/Augustin Butler/Meeks Gordon/Green Dieng/Gordon Biz/Vuc And after that we could trade Payton an Vuc for a starter PG and a backup C (Dragic & Reed). Dragic/Augustin Butler/Meeks Gordon/Green Dieng/Gordon Biz/Reed Chicago is probably looking to win sooner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jjgator 164 Report post Posted January 7, 2017 Just an FYI... We're not getting Butler without including Gordon. Payton, Fournier and Vooch are average to below average NBA players. They're not going to get us a top two way player in his prime who is signed to a great deal. Very true. I'm not even sure including Gordon would get it done Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bauncey Chillups 288 Report post Posted January 7, 2017 I just remember that Boston got Isaiah Thomas for literally Marcus Thornton and Cleveland's (late) first round pick. Ugh. I mean yes and no. Fournier is a third option, playing 1st/2nd option right now, and we suck. I think I'd include him in almost any deal that yields a potentially high draft pick that could become a #1/#2 option, or even a solid #2 option. Evan is good, but he's not anywhere close to great. That said, we have to do something. We've been throwing playoffs out there since the summer and this current team is not making the playoffs. Either shift gears, make trades for the future, and start developing/tanking or make deals that will improve us now. I lean towards mortgaging for the future because even if we manage to sneak in the playoffs we will not be contenders anytime soon It's more about what P4W was saying--stop sending away young talent without getting something significant back. Fournier is doing too much now but put him on an actually balanced roster and not the clownshow we have going on and he'd flourish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stu Bronsilino 313 Report post Posted January 7, 2017 guys i had a dream that david aldridge tweeted that there was a deal in place to send KAT from min to orl. more details coming. so...get ready for that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
og magic fan 43 Report post Posted January 7, 2017 guys i had a dream that david aldridge tweeted that there was a deal in place to send KAT from min to orl. more details coming. so...get ready for that how do I get approved and how do I start my own chat. All my predictions have come true Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fan for too long 2 536 Report post Posted January 8, 2017 I got a question for everyone. What pct. Do the magic make a trade before the deadline? My guess based on past moves. 51%. And that's being optimistic. Also who do you want moved? Top 3. Vuc Evan Green. There's mine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted January 8, 2017 I just remember that Boston got Isaiah Thomas for literally Marcus Thornton and Cleveland's (late) first round pick. Ugh Yeah that's the kind of deal we need to make. Man what a steal. Look at what they got for Ray Allen too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mauro Pedrosa 1,034 Report post Posted January 8, 2017 I got a question for everyone. What pct. Do the magic make a trade before the deadline? My guess based on past moves. 51%. And that's being optimistic. Also who do you want moved? Top 3. Vuc Evan Green. There's mine. Payton Green Vuc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Servo 7 Report post Posted January 8, 2017 I got a question for everyone. What pct. Do the magic make a trade before the deadline? My guess based on past moves. 51%. And that's being optimistic. Also who do you want moved? Top 3. Vuc Evan Green. There's mine. 100% we make a trade Ibaka Green meeks both CJ's will probably be gone also Share this post Link to post Share on other sites