Magicman28 295 Report post Posted June 19, 2017 the going comparison for this draft is 1999. seen it like 4 places now. no superstars but great top 10 with only 1 bust. Who's the bust? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tank Vogel 191 Report post Posted June 19, 2017 Weltman: "Shooting is always at a premium. For as long as I've been around basketball, the first skill you always ask about is can a guy shoot? The league is changing in front of our eyes. It's becoming a league of stretch bigs and 3&D guys. That is a paramount skill as we evaluate players." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted June 19, 2017 Who's the bust? jonathan bender. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted June 19, 2017 every nba pod I've listened to lately has said the equivalent of "Dennis Smith scares teams but he definitely could be the best player in this draft". we're going to screw this up. I'm not going to make it to Thursday. gonna kill me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNameIsOrlando 310 Report post Posted June 19, 2017 every nba pod I've listened to lately has said the equivalent of "Dennis Smith scares teams but he definitely could be the best player in this draft". we're going to screw this up. I'm not going to make it to Thursday. gonna kill me. We are most definitely going to screw this up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted June 19, 2017 jonathan bender. Isaac? You think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted June 19, 2017 every nba pod I've listened to lately has said the equivalent of "Dennis Smith scares teams but he definitely could be the best player in this draft". we're going to screw this up. I'm not going to make it to Thursday. gonna kill me. Seems like that's what gonna happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justin Jaudon 221 Report post Posted June 19, 2017 the only thing I got from that is I doubt they value smith. wanting "Guys who will play for their teammates". Very upsetting if that's true. I just don't see us getting anyone at 6 with the upside of Smith. Also, it's a stupid thing to want in a player. We had guys who played for each other, for the most part. The wheels fell off over the last season and a half, but two years ago we had a pretty tight knit group. A tight knit group who all seemed to like each other, and they sucked horrendously because they "played for each other" rather than winning. I don't want a guy who plays for his teammates. I want a guy who plays to win, who elevates his teammates. I want a guy who is willing to call out his teammates when their effort is low, whose own effort and production is beyond reproach. Sure, maybe Smith is Boogie Cousins; but maybe he's Kobe. It's hard to tell if a guy can elevate his teammates in one year with a terrible coaching situation. What we know about Smith is that he's high-level talented with star potential and he hates to lose. That is exactly what this team needs to take a chance on. If we end up taking Jonathan Isaac over Dennis Smith, he damn well better pan out, or Smith better be a bust somewhere else. The same should go for anyone else we may take over Smith. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason Funderburker 110 Report post Posted June 19, 2017 I'm so excited to draft the most unexciting lottery player -_- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted June 19, 2017 Very upsetting if that's true. I just don't see us getting anyone at 6 with the upside of Smith. Also, it's a stupid thing to want in a player. We had guys who played for each other, for the most part. The wheels fell off over the last season and a half, but two years ago we had a pretty tight knit group. A tight knit group who all seemed to like each other, and they sucked horrendously because they "played for each other" rather than winning. I don't want a guy who plays for his teammates. I want a guy who plays to win, who elevates his teammates. I want a guy who is willing to call out his teammates when their effort is low, whose own effort and production is beyond reproach. Sure, maybe Smith is Boogie Cousins; but maybe he's Kobe. It's hard to tell if a guy can elevate his teammates in one year with a terrible coaching situation. What we know about Smith is that he's high-level talented with star potential and he hates to lose. That is exactly what this team needs to take a chance on. If we end up taking Jonathan Isaac over Dennis Smith, he damn well better pan out, or Smith better be a bust somewhere else. The same should go for anyone else we may take over Smith. See when I see that comment, I think Jackson because he defends and is a pretty decent passer. Play for your teammates doesn't mean you sit there and wait for the ball to come to you. Maybe we move up. Maybe Jackson slides down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted June 19, 2017 Isaac? You think? if we knew who the bust was he wouldn't be picked in the top 8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Better DJ & Photographer 461 Report post Posted June 19, 2017 Weltman: "Shooting is always at a premium. For as long as I've been around basketball, the first skill you always ask about is can a guy shoot? The league is changing in front of our eyes. It's becoming a league of stretch bigs and 3&D guys. That is a paramount skill as we evaluate players." Yay, somebody that gets it! It's the freakin' NBA, supposedly the best players in the world, so why would ANY team want somebody that can't shoot? We need to dump all our guys that can't shoot and replace them with guys that can. No more project players please! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
