For the love of the game 56 Report post Posted June 1, 2012 A reason (which actually is a sufficient condition) is that such a decision is to be made by a Head Coach or a GM or both - and the Organisation (at the moment of the waive) had none. The additional fact that he was unguaranteed forces one to annotate the move with a double question mark. The fact that he was unguaranteed also means that they could waive him and not have to pay him, which saves a little money. I understand that it is not a lot of money (in nba terms). Your first point really questions the timing of the decision which was likely made by Alex Martin, not so much why Wafer should still be on the team. He is poor in all the reasons I name above in my first post. Also, I think its clear he was just a trough in the BBD trade which I feel still worked out for us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
For the love of the game 56 Report post Posted June 1, 2012 Von Wafer was the best slasher on our team, no doubt about it. He had no D, but when you have J-Rich, Hedo, Duhon etc. you can't say waving Wafer was a no-brainer. He also got paid 1 million a year and with the same amount of minutes I guara damn tee that he would have better production than J-Rich and Hedo Yes, we was our best slasher, which often led to circus shots and bad passes. In addition to having no D, he had a very small bball IQ. Agree he would likely have better production than Rich or Turk, but would likely average more TO's as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soul Bro 1,422 Report post Posted June 1, 2012 You can release him, waive him or whatever, you just have to eat his contract. Just like they did with Arenas. Whats a few million to Devos, a mere bag o shells You can't "release" him like Arenas. Arenas was amnestied and doesn't count against our cap, whereas Duhon would. I wish we could kick Duhon to the curve as much as any guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VCplusD12 91 Report post Posted June 1, 2012 But I believe that Wafer asked to leave so he could play more minutes during his prime. We'd have no reason to waive him before a GM came, it's the only logical scenario IMO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazyhorse81 251 Report post Posted June 1, 2012 So, here's a recap: We fired the most successful coach this franchise has ever had. We're worried about our complete lack of CAP flexibility. We're worried that the Face of the Franchise no longer wants to be here. We're worried that this franchise is going to hell in a handbasket and we're looking at years and years of being the joke of the NBA. So what do we find to fixate on? We released Von Wafer. Yup. That's what we should be concerned with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanA_TBDP 12 Report post Posted June 1, 2012 So, here's a recap: We fired the most successful coach this franchise has ever had. We're worried about our complete lack of CAP flexibility. We're worried that the Face of the Franchise no longer wants to be here. We're worried that this franchise is going to hell in a handbasket and we're looking at years and years of being the joke of the NBA. So what do we find to fixate on? We released Von Wafer. Yup. That's what we should be concerned with. Von Wafer took the ball out of the hands of Chris Duhon when they palyed together. No Von = more Duhon! :panicworker: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Secretly Space Jesus 670 Report post Posted June 1, 2012 So what do we find to fixate on? I don't think fixate means what you think it means. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazyhorse81 251 Report post Posted June 1, 2012 I don't think fixate means what you think it means. An 11 page thread involving many people complaining about the Magic releasing Von Wafer, and many other people arguing about their complaining certainly looks like fixation to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Secretly Space Jesus 670 Report post Posted June 1, 2012 An 11 page thread involving many people complaining about the Magic releasing Von Wafer, and many other people arguing about their complaining certainly looks like fixation to me. My bad. I read your post as "we" being the actual team, not the posters on this board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
For the love of the game 56 Report post Posted June 1, 2012 An 11 page thread involving many people complaining about the Magic releasing Von Wafer, and many other people arguing about their complaining certainly looks like fixation to me. I lost my blanky last week and my wife told me my fixation with sucking on my thumb is not healthy. So I choose a fixation on this Wafer thread. But really, its the offseason and there is no other real news to discuss at this time since I am sick of hearing about Howard and there is no real news of the GM/ coach front. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazyhorse81 251 Report post Posted June 1, 2012 My bad. I read your post as "we" being the actual team, not the posters on this board. No, I try my best not to use "we" in regards to the team since I'm not on it. I see what you were saying though. I meant the posters on the board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazyhorse81 251 Report post Posted June 1, 2012 I lost my blanky last week and my wife told me my fixation with sucking on my thumb is not healthy. So I choose a fixation on this Wafer thread. But really, its the offseason and there is no other real news to discuss at this time since I am sick of hearing about Howard and there is no real news of the GM/ coach front. I understand it's the offseason. I'm just surprised that with everything going on with this franchise and that we, as fans, are probably looking at a very long time of suck ahead, seeing people getting upset that we waived Von Wafer as though now..NOW we're not going to win the championship, is confusing to say the least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
