J.J. 's future? Coach Moreau says it's time for respect(pg.12)

[Blackhennie 0]

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Originally posted by echo4papa:

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Originally posted by SmackDaddy:

I'm confused. There is a RealGM statement, a Hoopsworld chat, and some Hollinger speculation that was quoted in this thread that has touched off another JJ Redick discussion? It's not like Otis was quoted saying that he wouldn't trade JJ. And even if he did, I would see it as a trade value building statement, not a clear indication that Mr. Redick is getting moved up in the rotation ahead of numerous more qualified players.

 

I would like to refer everybody to KITNO's "Rank da Playas" thread, http://orlandomagiczone.com/ev...91029871/m/952100704.

 

Anybody see JJ Redick listed as a top 10 talent on our team?

 

JJ Hater.

 

this is the problem

 

carter/mp/barnes/jj

[Secretly Space Jesus 670]

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Originally posted by 135BPM+:

You're as consistent as a Politician. I get death wished upon me for supporting Redick. I would say you hate him because you don't know me.

 

Actually, my position on JJ has been remarkably consistent.

 

The quote you took from that other thread was, in fact, about you, and your assumption was both wrong and completely ridiculous. If I make a statement about you, obviously I'm not referring to JJ, unless you are JJ. Are you JJ? Because then I'll take my statement back, and acknowledge I hate JJ.

 

But no, I have no problem saying that you have contributed absolutely nothing of any value to this board in any way, shape, or form, that the board would be much better off from your absense from it, and that, given my interactions with you are strictly limited to this board, I'd certainly be happier imagining you dead(since then you don't participate on the board) then imagining you alive(since then you write posts like this, where you demonstrate a remarkable inability to use the dam quote command.)

 

Also, how someone confuses: "I'm imagining you dying" with "I'm wishing you were dying", I'll never know, but the words start with different letters and they are not synonymous. Right now, I'm imagining Ben Affleck dying, and that makes me smile too. Do I wish Ben Affleck would die? Of course not. That's ridiculous.

 

And your whole statement about that previous thread, and the fact that you're now trying to play martyr against the big, mean, scary DOM is seriously too stupid to contemplate. You made that thread, at least supposedly, to ask what people thought of Matt Barnes. The fact that it was a blatant and obvious attempt to bait people into somewhat criticizing Barnes so you could use that to trumpet JJ was obvious immediately, and I called you on it immediately, which you ignored. Then when about 12 posts came in, you wrote an ode to JJ that barely mentioned Barnes, and I wrote the post you tried and utterly failed to quote. Why? Because you've yet to make a coherent point on this board, you write at the level of the average 4th grader, and your JJ apologizing nonsense bores the hell out of me. I couldn't stand the nonsense arguments you've made about JJ>Barnes last year when magic berto was making them about JJ>Lee(and they were IDENTICAL arguments, and they were stupid then too), but at least when he feigned outrage it was funny in a "the puppy just peed on the carpet, but look at him: he's so proud. It's just so cute, I can't stay mad" sort of way.

 

You on the other hand have written 130 posts, and I would bet dollars to donuts that 110 of them mention Redick implicitly. That's fine. I don't mind player fans when they know what the hell they're talking about. You don't, and worse yet, you have shown no indication you ever will.

 

Every point you've made that I've seen in the last 2 weeks has been about how Barnes has never proven himself in Stan's system because he hasn't had a chance yet.

 

Then, someone points out that JJ had a chance and failed spectacularly. You respond to this with: "I expect JJ to get his shot back".

 

Ignoring for a second the fact that JJ has never shot above 44% in college or the pros, you're making a gigantic assumption here. And yet you think it's simply outrageous that Matt Barnes, who even after adjusting for minutes and pace to level him off with JJ still averaged more points, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks and shot a better percentage AND played better defense, might be a better player than JJ Redick, and you think it's presumptious of someone like me to suggest, on a discussion forum no less, that Barnes will get more minutes than JJ. Seriously?

 

I think it's presumptious for you to make completely unfounded statements about JJ's attempts to "get his shot back"(to what? 44%? That's still lousy) and legitimately believe that what you think JJ will do actually has any bearing on any kind of argument. Your statements about JJ getting his shot back are roughly on par with me saying: "Barnes will be better because he'll shoot 80% from 3!". The thing is, though, I haven't said that. I've said Barnes will be better because he's more proven, because he's a better defender, and because he puts up better stats across the board even after adjusting for minutes played.

 

After all that, you know what? Keep whining. I'll keep putting you in your place like the worthless waste of oxygen you seem bent on demonstrating yourself to be. It's easy, actually. I cursory look at basic facts almost does it for me. But do yourself a favor: stop whining. There are other JJ fans on this board, and people like you and PEC(assuming you're not the same person) make it harder for them, since your arguments border on the kind of thing I would write if I wanted to satirize how stupid I thought JJ fanatics were.

[135BPM+ 0]

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Originally posted by Blackhennie:

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Originally posted by echo4papa:

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Originally posted by SmackDaddy:

I'm confused. There is a RealGM statement, a Hoopsworld chat, and some Hollinger speculation that was quoted in this thread that has touched off another JJ Redick discussion? It's not like Otis was quoted saying that he wouldn't trade JJ. And even if he did, I would see it as a trade value building statement, not a clear indication that Mr. Redick is getting moved up in the rotation ahead of numerous more qualified players.

 

I would like to refer everybody to KITNO's "Rank da Playas" thread, http://orlandomagiczone.com/ev...91029871/m/952100704.

 

Anybody see JJ Redick listed as a top 10 talent on our team?

 

JJ Hater.

 

this is the problem

 

carter/mp/barnes/jj

 

 

I agree with you about one part of your response to my post and the context in which it was written. As you say in your first sentence. You are CONFUSED.

 

GO MAGIC!!!

[Blackhennie 0]

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Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:

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Originally posted by 135BPM+:

You're as consistent as a Politician. I get death wished upon me for supporting Redick. I would say you hate him because you don't know me.

 

Actually, my position on JJ has been remarkably consistent.

 

The quote you took from that other thread was, in fact, about you, and your assumption was both wrong and completely ridiculous. If I make a statement about you, obviously I'm not referring to JJ, unless you are JJ. Are you JJ? Because then I'll take my statement back, and acknowledge I hate JJ.

 

But no, I have no problem saying that you have contributed absolutely nothing of any value to this board in any way, shape, or form, that the board would be much better off from your absense from it, and that, given my interactions with you are strictly limited to this board, I'd certainly be happier imagining you dead(since then you don't participate on the board) then imagining you alive(since then you write posts like this, where you demonstrate a remarkable inability to use the dam quote command.)

 

Also, how someone confuses: "I'm imagining you dying" with "I'm wishing you were dying", I'll never know, but the words start with different letters and they are not synonymous. Right now, I'm imagining Ben Affleck dying, and that makes me smile too. Do I wish Ben Affleck would die? Of course not. That's ridiculous.

 

And your whole statement about that previous thread, and the fact that you're now trying to play martyr against the big, mean, scary DOM is seriously too stupid to contemplate. You made that thread, at least supposedly, to ask what people thought of Matt Barnes. The fact that it was a blatant and obvious attempt to bait people into somewhat criticizing Barnes so you could use that to trumpet JJ was obvious immediately, and I called you on it immediately, which you ignored. Then when about 12 posts came in, you wrote an ode to JJ that barely mentioned Barnes, and I wrote the post you tried and utterly failed to quote. Why? Because you've yet to make a coherent point on this board, you write at the level of the average 4th grader, and your JJ apologizing nonsense bores the hell out of me. I couldn't stand the nonsense arguments you've made about JJ>Barnes last year when magic berto was making them about JJ>Lee(and they were IDENTICAL arguments, and they were stupid then too), but at least when he feigned outrage it was funny in a "the puppy just peed on the carpet, but look at him: he's so proud. It's just so cute, I can't stay mad" sort of way.

 

You on the other hand have written 130 posts, and I would bet dollars to donuts that 110 of them mention Redick implicitly. That's fine. I don't mind player fans when they know what the hell they're talking about. You don't, and worse yet, you have shown no indication you ever will.

 

Every point you've made that I've seen in the last 2 weeks has been about how Barnes has never proven himself in Stan's system because he hasn't had a chance yet.

 

Then, someone points out that JJ had a chance and failed spectacularly. You respond to this with: "I expect JJ to get his shot back".

 

Ignoring for a second the fact that JJ has never shot above 44% in college or the pros, you're making a gigantic assumption here. And yet you think it's simply outrageous that Matt Barnes, who even after adjusting for minutes and pace to level him off with JJ still averaged more points, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks and shot a better percentage AND played better defense, might be a better player than JJ Redick, and you think it's presumptious of someone like me to suggest, on a discussion forum no less, that Barnes will get more minutes than JJ. Seriously?

 

I think it's presumptious for you to make completely unfounded statements about JJ's attempts to "get his shot back"(to what? 44%? That's still lousy) and legitimately believe that what you think JJ will do actually has any bearing on any kind of argument. Your statements about JJ getting his shot back are roughly on par with me saying: "Barnes will be better because he'll shoot 80% from 3!". The thing is, though, I haven't said that. I've said Barnes will be better because he's more proven, because he's a better defender, and because he puts up better stats across the board even after adjusting for minutes played.

 

After all that, you know what? Keep whining. I'll keep putting you in your place like the worthless waste of oxygen you seem bent on demonstrating yourself to be. It's easy, actually. I cursory look at basic facts almost does it for me. But do yourself a favor: stop whining. There are other JJ fans on this board, and people like you and PEC(assuming you're not the same person) make it harder for them, since your arguments border on the kind of thing I would write if I wanted to satirize how stupid I thought JJ fanatics were.

 

funny... someone just got pimp smacked...

[135BPM+ 0]

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Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:

quote:

Originally posted by 135BPM+:

You're as consistent as a Politician. I get death wished upon me for supporting Redick. I would say you hate him because you don't know me.

 

Actually, my position on JJ has been remarkably consistent.

 

The quote you took from that other thread was, in fact, about you, and your assumption was both wrong and completely ridiculous. If I make a statement about you, obviously I'm not referring to JJ, unless you are JJ. Are you JJ? Because then I'll take my statement back, and acknowledge I hate JJ.

 

But no, I have no problem saying that you have contributed absolutely nothing of any value to this board in any way, shape, or form, that the board would be much better off from your absense from it, and that, given my interactions with you are strictly limited to this board, I'd certainly be happier imagining you dead(since then you don't participate on the board) then imagining you alive(since then you write posts like this, where you demonstrate a remarkable inability to use the dam quote command.)

 

Also, how someone confuses: "I'm imagining you dying" with "I'm wishing you were dying", I'll never know, but the words start with different letters and they are not synonymous. Right now, I'm imagining Ben Affleck dying, and that makes me smile too. Do I wish Ben Affleck would die? Of course not. That's ridiculous.

 

And your whole statement about that previous thread, and the fact that you're now trying to play martyr against the big, mean, scary DOM is seriously too stupid to contemplate. You made that thread, at least supposedly, to ask what people thought of Matt Barnes. The fact that it was a blatant and obvious attempt to bait people into somewhat criticizing Barnes so you could use that to trumpet JJ was obvious immediately, and I called you on it immediately, which you ignored. Then when about 12 posts came in, you wrote an ode to JJ that barely mentioned Barnes, and I wrote the post you tried and utterly failed to quote. Why? Because you've yet to make a coherent point on this board, you write at the level of the average 4th grader, and your JJ apologizing nonsense bores the hell out of me. I couldn't stand the nonsense arguments you've made about JJ>Barnes last year when magic berto was making them about JJ>Lee(and they were IDENTICAL arguments, and they were stupid then too), but at least when he feigned outrage it was funny in a "the puppy just peed on the carpet, but look at him: he's so proud. It's just so cute, I can't stay mad" sort of way.

 

You on the other hand have written 130 posts, and I would bet dollars to donuts that 110 of them mention Redick implicitly. That's fine. I don't mind player fans when they know what the hell they're talking about. You don't, and worse yet, you have shown no indication you ever will.

 

Every point you've made that I've seen in the last 2 weeks has been about how Barnes has never proven himself in Stan's system because he hasn't had a chance yet.

 

Then, someone points out that JJ had a chance and failed spectacularly. You respond to this with: "I expect JJ to get his shot back".

 

Ignoring for a second the fact that JJ has never shot above 44% in college or the pros, you're making a gigantic assumption here. And yet you think it's simply outrageous that Matt Barnes, who even after adjusting for minutes and pace to level him off with JJ still averaged more points, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks and shot a better percentage AND played better defense, might be a better player than JJ Redick, and you think it's presumptious of someone like me to suggest, on a discussion forum no less, that Barnes will get more minutes than JJ. Seriously?

 

I think it's presumptious for you to make completely unfounded statements about JJ's attempts to "get his shot back"(to what? 44%? That's still lousy) and legitimately believe that what you think JJ will do actually has any bearing on any kind of argument. Your statements about JJ getting his shot back are roughly on par with me saying: "Barnes will be better because he'll shoot 80% from 3!". The thing is, though, I haven't said that. I've said Barnes will be better because he's more proven, because he's a better defender, and because he puts up better stats across the board even after adjusting for minutes played.

 

After all that, you know what? Keep whining. I'll keep putting you in your place like the worthless waste of oxygen you seem bent on demonstrating yourself to be. It's easy, actually. I cursory look at basic facts almost does it for me. But do yourself a favor: stop whining. There are other JJ fans on this board, and people like you and PEC(assuming you're not the same person) make it harder for them, since your arguments border on the kind of thing I would write if I wanted to satirize how stupid I thought JJ fanatics were.

 

 

I'd like to meet this PEC. She sounds like ONE HOT LADY.

 

GO MAGIC!!!

[SmackDaddy 30]

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Originally posted by 135BPM+:

I agree with you about one part of your response to my post and the context in which it was written. As you say in your first sentence. You are CONFUSED.

 

I wasn't responding to your post. Had I been, you would notice one of your previous idiotic statements contained in a highlighted section noted further for identification by the word "QUOTE". Identical in appearance to this particular reply.

[PNuT1423 0]

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Originally posted by 135BPM+:

 

 

I'd like to meet this PEC. She sounds like ONE HOT LADY.

 

GO MAGIC!!!

 

it's official, you are pec.... and this is how you reply with quotes by the way.

[135BPM+ 0]

GO MAGIC!!!!

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Originally posted by cunningstunt:

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Originally posted by 135BPM+:

 

 

I'd like to meet this PEC. She sounds like ONE HOT LADY.

 

GO MAGIC!!!

 

it's official, you are pec.... and this is how you reply with quotes by the way.

 

 

Sorry guys. The only relation that I have to PEC is my willingness to give Redick credit for what he does and acknowledgement of his worth to the Magic. Like PEC, I look forward to JJs extended minutes next season and watching many on this board squerm as he continues to grow and improve.

 

GO MAGIC!!!!

[PNuT1423 0]

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Originally posted by 135BPM+:

GO MAGIC!!!!

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Originally posted by cunningstunt:

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Originally posted by 135BPM+:

 

 

I'd like to meet this PEC. She sounds like ONE HOT LADY.

 

GO MAGIC!!!

 

it's official, you are pec.... and this is how you reply with quotes by the way.

 

 

Sorry guys. The only relation that I have to PEC is my willingness to give Redick credit for what he does and acknowledgement of his worth to the Magic. Like PEC, I look forward to JJs extended minutes next season and watching many on this board squerm as he continues to grow and improve.

 

GO MAGIC!!!!

 

what about ryan anderson, barnes, peitrus... guys that are role players that contribute and work on their games as well? if your the kind of person that would love one of your children above and beyond your other children... then you really shouldn't be going around having children.... and in turn your 'GO MAGIC!!!' sentiment at the bottom of your posts seems to be a moot point... it's not like we haven't seen others like you, becuase we have, but now we know where to classify you, as not really a magic fan, just sort of a player's fan.

[Rob 0]

Point is that there is no way in hell Redick beats out or take minutes from Carter, Pietrus and Barnes. All 3 players offer way more than Redick does. Carter is out of discussion but Pietrus and Barnes are 2 hustle players that can score. Redick can just score, thats it. If Redick became a good rebounder or defender or passer and hustles like Pietrus and Barnes has in previous seasons,then he would get more minutes. But since he doesn't do none of the 3 he will be the odd man out of the rotation. That's not being a Redick hater at all, that's just being real. Redick has to go to a team that will accept his flaws and give him the minutes he needs to be somewhat the scorer he was in college. He won't get that opportunity with the Magic. Were ready to win now not wait on Redick to develop his game. The days of grooming J.J. Redick here are over.

[135BPM+ 0]

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Originally posted by Rob:

Point is that there is no way in hell Redick beats out or take minutes from Carter, Pietrus and Barnes. All 3 players offer way more than Redick does. Carter is out of discussion but Pietrus and Barnes are 2 hustle players that can score. Redick can just score, thats it. If Redick became a good rebounder or defender or passer and hustles like Pietrus and Barnes has in previous seasons,then he would get more minutes. But since he doesn't do none of the 3 he will be the odd man out of the rotation. That's not being a Redick hater at all, that's just being real. Redick has to go to a team that will accept his flaws and give him the minutes he needs to be somewhat the scorer he was in college. He won't get that opportunity with the Magic. Were ready to win now not wait on Redick to develop his game. The days of grooming J.J. Redick here are over.

 

I definitely don't see JJ taking minutes from Carter and Pietrus will get his mins. if he plays like he did in the playoffs and stays healthy. Redick will be getting his if Pietrus is at the 3 and Carter needs a break at the two. Or JJ could possibly earn mins. at the 2 if Stan decides to play Carter at the 3. There is a variety of options that Stan has and Redick will defintely be in the mix. That is what this thread was surprisingly started by balljunkie for, too show that Redick could possibly be called upon to play a bigger role this season. He usually doesn't post anything positive about JJ. I guess he thought we all needed something to argue about.

 

GO MAGIC!!!

[Rob 0]

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Originally posted by 135BPM+:

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Originally posted by Rob:

Point is that there is no way in hell Redick beats out or take minutes from Carter, Pietrus and Barnes. All 3 players offer way more than Redick does. Carter is out of discussion but Pietrus and Barnes are 2 hustle players that can score. Redick can just score, thats it. If Redick became a good rebounder or defender or passer and hustles like Pietrus and Barnes has in previous seasons,then he would get more minutes. But since he doesn't do none of the 3 he will be the odd man out of the rotation. That's not being a Redick hater at all, that's just being real. Redick has to go to a team that will accept his flaws and give him the minutes he needs to be somewhat the scorer he was in college. He won't get that opportunity with the Magic. Were ready to win now not wait on Redick to develop his game. The days of grooming J.J. Redick here are over.

 

I definitely don't see JJ taking minutes from Carter and Pietrus will get his mins. if he plays like he did in the playoffs and stays healthy. Redick will be getting his if Pietrus is at the 3 and Carter needs a break at the two. Or JJ could possibly earn mins. at the 2 if Stan decides to play Carter at the 3. There is a variety of options that Stan has and Redick will defintely be in the mix. That is what this thread was surprisingly started by balljunkie for, too show that Redick could possibly be called upon to play a bigger role this season. He usually doesn't post anything positive about JJ. I guess he thought we all needed something to argue about.

 

GO MAGIC!!!

 

Well if that happens then good for J.J. Hopefully he makes the best of his minutes and be consistent.