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Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:

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Oh, and to the original post, 48-34

48 wins? Do you have half the team getting injured? Silly DoM.

 

59-23

 

Without Hedo, the Magic are just a mid-level playoff team. Cleveland, Boston, Atlanta, Miami, Toronto and maybe Washington are all better.

It's the curse of the club med.

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Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:

 

1) We had the best defense in the NBA last season. That is a statistical fact.

 

2) I don't remember those Lakers being swept by the Pistons. The reason I don't remember them being swept is because they weren't swept.

 

3) In addition to playing no defense, Run TMC had absolutely zero help. They were pretty fun to watch, but ultimately were never a viable threat to anyone.

 

4) Carter has been known throughout his career as a lazy defender, not a bad one. The only player he's played consistently hard against on defense is Kobe, and he's done a good job on Kobe throughout his career.

 

5) Anyone worrying about Rashard defending the 3 should remember how Hedo defended the 3, and shut the hell up. At worst, Rashard on defense at the 3 is a step sideways.

 

6) If you're going to bring up question marks, the fact that Garnett has tons of mileage on his legs and took a ridiculous amount of time to recover from an injury should be a gigantic one.

 

 

Oh, and to the original post, 48-34.

 

Again...moving three starters with major minutes isn't a question mark? Last year was LAST year...do you agree or not that Jameer and VC are liabilities on defense? Here's the deal with KG...IF....he's healthy and all things being equal...a healthy Celtics are better than a healthy Magic. You want an if...what if Jameer(who looked gawd awful in the finals) doesn't come back all the way or goes down again for any length of time? Who is going to play the point? ANother rental? Why would any decent PG come here if they know if you play well....you'll upset the midget and get traded anyway.

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Originally posted by T REX:

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Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:

 

1) We had the best defense in the NBA last season. That is a statistical fact.

 

2) I don't remember those Lakers being swept by the Pistons. The reason I don't remember them being swept is because they weren't swept.

 

3) In addition to playing no defense, Run TMC had absolutely zero help. They were pretty fun to watch, but ultimately were never a viable threat to anyone.

 

4) Carter has been known throughout his career as a lazy defender, not a bad one. The only player he's played consistently hard against on defense is Kobe, and he's done a good job on Kobe throughout his career.

 

5) Anyone worrying about Rashard defending the 3 should remember how Hedo defended the 3, and shut the hell up. At worst, Rashard on defense at the 3 is a step sideways.

 

6) If you're going to bring up question marks, the fact that Garnett has tons of mileage on his legs and took a ridiculous amount of time to recover from an injury should be a gigantic one.

 

 

Oh, and to the original post, 48-34.

 

Again...moving three starters with major minutes isn't a question mark? Last year was LAST year...do you agree or not that Jameer and VC are liabilities on defense? Here's the deal with KG...IF....he's healthy and all things being equal...a healthy Celtics are better than a healthy Magic. You want an if...what if Jameer(who looked gawd awful in the finals) doesn't come back all the way or goes down again for any length of time? Who is going to play the point? ANother rental? Why would any decent PG come here if they know if you play well....you'll upset the midget and get traded anyway.

 

1) Rafer wasn't a starter.

 

2) Why is it that "last year was LAST year" when talking about the Magic, but it's completely relevant when discussing the Celtics? If there is no point of comparison based on last year that can be made(which is the point you're making), then how can you even assume the Celtics will be better than the Knicks? Logically you can't, based off your arguing criteria. Now, your criteria is retarded, but it's your criteria, not mine.

 

3) Neither Vince nor Jameer are huge liabilities on defense. Jameer is a below average defender. Vince is an average defender who can be a very good defender when he actually plays motivated on defense.

 

4) Let me ask you this: Since you have to assume any team that moves 3 starters will automatically be worse, if the Lakers had replaced Bynum, Fisher and Ariza with Payton, Pippen, and Kareem in their respective primes, would they have gotten worse? Again, I'm merely taking your ridiculous point to its logical extreme.

 

5) You do realize the signing period is 8 days old, right? That the offseason isn't over, and has in fact, just started? I have no idea what Orlando would do if Jameer got hurt, anymore than I know what they'd do if Dwight got hit by a bus. I'm not psychic. But since you want to play the if game, what if Lebron, Kobe, Chris Paul, KG, Paul Pierce, Melo, Dirk, Bosh, and Dwade are all killed all of a sudden? We'd be the favorites! You see how stupid that is? Playing the what if game is stupid. Yes, if Jameer gets hurt, we'll be a worse team. That's obvious. You take an allstar off any team and they'd be worse. That's why that player is an allstar.

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Originally posted by T REX:

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Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:

 

1) We had the best defense in the NBA last season. That is a statistical fact.

 

2) I don't remember those Lakers being swept by the Pistons. The reason I don't remember them being swept is because they weren't swept.

 

3) In addition to playing no defense, Run TMC had absolutely zero help. They were pretty fun to watch, but ultimately were never a viable threat to anyone.

 

4) Carter has been known throughout his career as a lazy defender, not a bad one. The only player he's played consistently hard against on defense is Kobe, and he's done a good job on Kobe throughout his career.

 

5) Anyone worrying about Rashard defending the 3 should remember how Hedo defended the 3, and shut the hell up. At worst, Rashard on defense at the 3 is a step sideways.

 

6) If you're going to bring up question marks, the fact that Garnett has tons of mileage on his legs and took a ridiculous amount of time to recover from an injury should be a gigantic one.

 

 

Oh, and to the original post, 48-34.

 

Again...moving three starters with major minutes isn't a question mark? Last year was LAST year...do you agree or not that Jameer and VC are liabilities on defense? Here's the deal with KG...IF....he's healthy and all things being equal...a healthy Celtics are better than a healthy Magic. You want an if...what if Jameer(who looked gawd awful in the finals) doesn't come back all the way or goes down again for any length of time? Who is going to play the point? ANother rental? Why would any decent PG come here if they know if you play well....you'll upset the midget and get traded anyway.

 

here you go again tyrannosaur. your logic is impeccable.

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Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:

 

 

1) Rafer wasn't a starter.

 

2) Why is it that "last year was LAST year" when talking about the Magic, but it's completely relevant when discussing the Celtics? If there is no point of comparison based on last year that can be made(which is the point you're making), then how can you even assume the Celtics will be better than the Knicks? Logically you can't, based off your arguing criteria. Now, your criteria is retarded, but it's your criteria, not mine.

 

3) Neither Vince nor Jameer are huge liabilities on defense. Jameer is a below average defender. Vince is an average defender who can be a very good defender when he actually plays motivated on defense.

 

4) Let me ask you this: Since you have to assume any team that moves 3 starters will automatically be worse, if the Lakers had replaced Bynum, Fisher and Ariza with Payton, Pippen, and Kareem in their respective primes, would they have gotten worse? Again, I'm merely taking your ridiculous point to its logical extreme.

 

5) You do realize the signing period is 8 days old, right? That the offseason isn't over, and has in fact, just started? I have no idea what Orlando would do if Jameer got hurt, anymore than I know what they'd do if Dwight got hit by a bus. I'm not psychic. But since you want to play the if game, what if Lebron, Kobe, Chris Paul, KG, Paul Pierce, Melo, Dirk, Bosh, and Dwade are all killed all of a sudden? We'd be the favorites! You see how stupid that is? Playing the what if game is stupid. Yes, if Jameer gets hurt, we'll be a worse team. That's obvious. You take an allstar off any team and they'd be worse. That's why that player is an allstar.

 

1. Really? Could have sworn he led the Magic to the finals as their starter...something the midget has NEVER done.

 

2. Whoa there lil fella.....this was discussing the MAGIC....I assume that they are getting healthy as much as we are...that being said...they took us seven games without arguably their best player in KG. Are you going to tell me that Jameer is our best player? No, I thought not. In fact, they got to the finals with KG and didn't without. We made it just fine without Jameer, did we not?

 

3. Now that's homer....Jameer is a tiny tiny person and a huge liability. This is common knowledge. Also, Carter is a KNOWN poor defender. Yeah, motivated...like when he quit on the Raptors? What a Punk.

 

4. I never said we are worse....read dude read...I question the said chemistry of dismantling of three starters. It remains to be seen how or if we have improved. Horrible analogy. Yes, that's extreme and you know it.

 

5. REALLY? Jameer got hurt last year and how did that turn out? DOH! Are you going to honestly tell me that Turk and Alston weren't a huge huge part of it? We made the finals because we played outstanding as a TEAM. That's gone dude...can't be replicated and and anyone who thinks we are automatic for the finals just because we were there last year is a moron. When you mess with team chemistry(no stat lines for this)....who knows? And that's what I am saying...all these people saying we are going to win it all based on what we did last year are bonkers. We blew that lineup up. We are basically starting anew with new pieces. Sorry....but we had something special last year. I saw it. Maybe you did or didn't. VC is NOT special. Not a HOF'er. Not a savior at 33. Get it yet?

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