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the orlando draft was said to be one sided but after time it looks different. It was in the same boat as the griz laker trade.

What is wrong with stating fact. what things were said about burke that were over the top? I personally scouted more into the size issue and found that burk is more average than small as pg.

since there was a few NA numbers. I said average. But you would be correct, 6"5 is above average.

I believe injuries played a big factor. The different lineup changes impacted cohesiveness and players knowing what to do. We played younger players so they are bound to make mistakes. Harris and Lamb came half way through the season and did not have camp so that was a problem. Harkless missed camp as well. There were a lot of factors that went into our defensive stats. JV also is a rookie. He tried somethings that did not work like playing McBob (josh) at sf way too much. His defenses schemes switch too much and cause match up issues; this causes big on small post ups, bad rotations, and players out of position for rebounds. I can't pen point the scheme he is using from his pass; it is not the Celtic overload or the spurs/jazz match up man with no really double teams. It is hard to judge jv because of these factors, but truth be told - the young players did get better. Though, I did want to see harris featured more. There was a number of times harris had small forwards he could have over powered on the block and he did not sniff the ball. There could have been plays for cross screen posts for harris vs smaller players. we could have had 1 - 4 pick&rolls or 2 - 4 pick&rolls with harris handling the ball. There were too many pick&pop plays for a low 30% Harris 3 ball. Harris did get some shots up, but the position of some of the shots could have been improved by the coach and match ups could have been better recognized by the lead guard. JV will be judged in 2014-2015. All in all, If we had less uninjured players (baby, harkless, arron, and harrington), our defensive numbers would be different. updated

the biggest issue with "small pgs" is challenging shots and finishing a round the basket vs height (body mass is also a factor here). Therefore, wingspan is really more important than height. Burks wingspan is = 6"5 lawson = 6" Mike Conley = 6"5 curry = 6"3 Jameer Nelson = 6"2 Rose= 6"8 Lillard = 6"7 Chris Paul = 6"4 K. Walker = 6" 3 Raymond Felton = 6"4 Brandon Knight = 6"6 Kyrie Irving = 6"4 Isaiah Thomas = 6"1 Holiday = 6"7 D. Williams = 6"6 Lawry = NA 6"0 Kidd = NA 6"4 Nash = NA 6"3 Rondo = NA 6"5 (I know he as long arms) Parker = NA 6"2 Jeff Teague 6"7 Ricky Rubio = NA 6"4 Darren Collison = 6"3 Jeremy Lin = 6"5 Geoge Hill = 6"9 Chalmers = NA 6"2 Jennings = NA 6"1 Vasquez = 6"7 M. Williams = 6"5 john wall = 6"9 westbrook = 6"7 This is the wing span for all the starting guards in the league. The average wingspan is 6.44. Therefore burke's 6"5 wingspan is average. The bigger guards weight is around 200lbs. Burk, without any nba training, weight is 185. He will only get bigger as he trains. I dont think burke's size will be as big of a factor as it seems. He stands 6"0 or 6"1, but his wingspan and weight is what counts. *NA is not available, so I used height. except for rondo; I bumped his wingspan up based on guesstimation.

grant hill was given an injury pass

They got Zach with the te and marc, plus picks

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I dont think that Henny will gamble the pick on Noel. He historically shuns away from injured players.

I agree. I dont want burke at 1 but I do want burke from this draft. I think he has the best chance at being the best player in this draft. He would make the most impact on our team. I would take a good second in this draft and the ablity to swap picks in the future; in exchange for noels to get burke. noel seems really fragile.

I dont think he double dribbled because he is allowed one bounce with both hands. If he would had continued his dribble, than it would have been a violation.

I do agree. A lot of the points in the paint came from slashing from guards, pick and roll drop offs, poor rotations from players like andrew, and bad shooting that lead to lay ups. Harris and baby have never played together so we dont know how they play on the court. Harris needs to improve his 3 ball to play more sf. You cant have one or two good defenders. we need the team to be on one page. I am still waiting to see if harkless is a good defender. He only had a few good defensive games. (the new york game was a good one of him vs melo.) He has great length and athleticism but he gets beat off the dribble easy and cant get around picks very well. I would like to see more stops. Its one thing to get assigned the best player on the opposing team but it is another thing to stop them or make them work. He has the tools. can he put them together and become a top flight defender?

I have come to the conclusion that noels is too high of a risk; if we get the top pick. The worst thing that could happen to us is that we waste this pick on a player that stays hurt or never come back full from injury. The worst record in the league for nothing. Even if noel comes back, he is still a project that needs major develop. My new big board after the smart un-smart drop out of the 2013 draft is: Burke Bmack Noels victor otto Burke's 6"5 wingspan and overall pg skills have won me over. He will be able to challenge shots better than nelson on defense. plus he will take care of the ball and get our young players the ball to scorer easy buckets. His vision, deadly shot, and handles will make him a stud.

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I never said nick played good defense. I did say harris and baby would be nasty on defense. You dont grab 11.9 rebs per game and not use energy. Nick was 2nd in the nba in rebs per game and 3rd in double doubles. I think he gave great energy. I don't think he played great defense (one on one or team), but he did give great energy. Nick helped limit second chance pts and closed out defensive stops by grabbing the critical boards to end processions. In case you did not know, defensive rebounds is part of defense. Therefore, he helps in his own way. I do think that harris played good defense. He played both the sfs well and the pfs well. He quickly picked up rotations well with out a lot of practice and was very vocal to help for team defense. JV stated how versatile harris was in guarding different positions. He (harris) also grab 8.5 boards a game for us and got 1.5 blocks, and .9 steals. At 20 years old, I think he did a good job. We all know that baby can defend and give energy, so enough said. Its baby. I think scoring was a big problem for our defense. Missed shots, lead to easy buckets for the other team. I also think we had a problem with sgs and pgs. The bobcat games are still in the back of my mind. Shot blocking was a big issue but harris and harkless helped latter in the season but we could still improve.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1235238&start=2925 I have been following the Milwaukee fans since the JJ for Tobe deal. I was trying to get a good feel for the new guys. It has been something to read. They are in some deep pain. The ghost of Tobias is haunting them. I am going to start calling Tobe Terror 12. http://www.google.com/search?q=jason+mask&hl=en&client=tablet-android-asus-rev&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=y75WUcTjA4na9ATZkICIDA&ved=0CEgQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=752 Poem: Orlando's Terror 12 From the dwightmare, Falls his cape in the hole of a city; Drifting to the feet of a boy What happened to the boy and the city after their rejection? They cultivated a power in the mist of broken soul! At the crevice of a city lies blood on a boy what once was created a sorrowful joy In a borough of terror And in this era, A boy and that city remembers that knife... in their heart so that boy embraces their colors; With a terror filled mask and the cloth of a dead man Look and marvel, there's a dead man coming That power of the undead city whispers In the mist of broken hearts In the fabric of... what once was There it is... That glimmer... of hope, That marvel... and wonder, A dead man cometh from the swamp From that crater of their hurt that borough that seemingly bottomless pit climbs a jersey of dirt and hurt blood , sweat, and tears, fit a boy now revered A city nourishes there vengeance reborn

AA has disappointed me but he had some positives moments. He was the reason we beat LA and he gave us some scoring. I thought his defense would be better and also his 3pt shot, but it is harder to produce easy buckets on a bad team and hard to keep your energy up when your down a lot every game. I do really want to see how a team of: Nick Baby Harris AA Burke would play together. I think we would win more games than we would like too. Harris and Baby will be nasty on defense. No second chance points with nick, baby, and harris rebounding everything and giving crazy energy. Burk would give us the easy buckets we need. Now, I think there will be better pt guards next year; with smart, harrison, and k. Hill, so I would not mind BMac (after a lot of thought). BMac would give us some spacing and allow us to run the jj screen plays (curl and fade reeds). That being said we could get Allen crabbe late for spacing and jj plays and use the pick on someone else like noels. but the noels injury does scares me.

I dont think there is a long jam with harris & harkless because they can play sf. Nicholson and quinn yes. He is much better then they are and he is not old. If losing is the ultimate goal. I understand. I hope we get a good pick because baby is a very good player.

good feed back...

glen is only 27 yrs old. why cant he stay? He is our best big defender and one of the best hustle and energy guys. If we get noels. I see a trade. but if no noels. No trade. In my eyes. Nick Baby T. Biz Harris AA Burke

The Business aka T. Biz Done Deal

glen is only 27 yrs old. why cant he stay. He is our best big defender and one of the best hustle and energy guys. If we get noels. I see a trade. but if no noels. No trade. Nick Baby T. Biz Harris AA Burke

I dont think we will use it. I think we want to keep our cap flexibly and money on the lesser end of the spectrum. This will allow us to retain the players we develop down the road and allow us to tank for 2014. 2014-2015 is when we may look for an impact player. 14-15 is our push for the playoffs and beyond.

I know a lot of women that are sensitive too this subject as well. Being black myself, I loved that movie, but you either love it or hate it - that is a different story altogether. Though, I was half joking, I do think tobe is his natural nick name. Biz has sounded the best to me, thus far. I am still going to call Milwaukee "Candy Land" every time we visit; while Harris is on the team (of course).