jmmagicfan

Greg "Klank" Kite Stanley "Buffet" Roberts Brian "Bison Dele" Williams Mark "No Nickname" Acres Michael Doleac et cetera

quote: Originally posted by PEC: quote: Originally posted by jmmagicfan:They can match the offer sheet, thereby retaining Gortat. Utilizing the TE, they can do a "two-piece" trade and send him anywhere else but Dallas. There is no reason for the Magic to do that. It would cost them more then the trade since you seem to just about give away the new TE worth over 7 million. Dallas can keep their new over priced back up center. I am not saying we should match and trade, I was saying that we could use the possibility to discourage Cuban/Dallas from trying to re-sign Bass. The TE would allow us to circument the BYC issues with trading Gortat.

quote: Originally posted by XaviInThe407:you guys see the new intro on the Raptors team site? lol. I especially like him holding up the front of his MAGIC jersey in the clip. LMFAO!

They can match the offer sheet, thereby retaining Gortat. Utilizing the TE, they can do a "two-piece" trade and send him anywhere else but Dallas.

quote: Originally posted by T REX:I rest my case. What juvie hall you connected from? He's in the room next to yours, and your sister is with him.

quote: Originally posted by PEC: quote: Originally posted by NickAnderson:I'm not worried about Detroit. I'm worried that Cuban is gonna pull something and keep Bass. Yea that why did he go after Marion. Bass is history with Dallas. Coming attraction to the Amway Arena Brando Bass along with the rest of the Magic. This is why we need to sign Bass before next Wednesday. If Cuban re-signs Bass, we match Gortat and trade him elsewhere. The Hedo TE makes almost any trade possible.

quote: Originally posted by M4G1C:no I see your no, and raise you a He** no!

I already started a thread about us possibly getting in on this trade and taking Thomas for a portion of the Hedo TE. It's called Tyrus Thomas anyone.

quote: Originally posted by gAmE.oVe|2:i respect his outside offense but not his inside game, fastbreak, or DEFENSE! would be nice if we had a pg that can guard someone...kinda like you know how he guarded fisher very well and prevented him from taking that 3 point shot...wait no he didnt Let's see - in high school told he was too short, ended up all-american; in college, told wasn't fast enough/too short, ended up co-player of the year; drafted #20 and sold, cause he's too slow/too short/shooting PG and will be a career backup, now a starter and an all-star. Do you really want to bet against him? The man has the heart of a champion. I would think twice about who I wager against.

quote: Originally posted by Nyce_1:Detroit currently has about $3.4M left in available cap. With a backcourt consisting of Rip, BG, and Afflalo, they are looking to move Afflalo for and ADDITIONAL $1, giving them a total of $4.4; which, would be more than the Magic offered for Bass. Portland, is reportedly trying to workout a 3-team trade that'll nab them Kirk Hinrich. If they get Kirk, look for them to try to get Bass with the rest of their cap. If that trade happens as currently configured POR is not giving up a player. As Hinrich currently makes $9.5M, they won't have any cap room left to pursue Bass.

quote: Originally posted by Magic_Juan:well most people probably had no idea I existed in the first place. Just a trivial fact I thought some you would enjoy. If the national media wont give our team any attention at least Alex Trebec will. Just yanking your chain, I was watching it too. Saints/Patriots were two of the other answers. I like to get my nerd on occasionally as well.

If that were true, then the Keyon Dooling TE would be gone. You can only use a portion for one player at a time, but the TE can be split over multiple trades.

quote: Originally posted by Jareth Cutestory:I didn't see this thread coming. This TPE will be the cause of so many threads. Book it. It is fun to suprise people occasionally.

quote: Originally posted by Magic_Juan:Well i should say the team was the answer to one of the clues in the "sports team" category. The "answers" to these questions were all quotes by people that had a sports team in it even though the quote itself wasnt related to sports. anyway Arthur C. Clarke "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from _______" $2000 and the only Nba team mentioned 3 nfl 1 mlb anyway, if you didnt know i was a nerd before you do now. We knew - lol

quote: Another major multiteam trade might be looming in the NBA with the Portland Trail Blazers, Utah Jazz and Chicago Bulls having discussed a deal that would be headlined by Carlos Boozer and Kirk Hinrich, according to NBA front-office sources.Sources stressed to ESPN.com that no deal was imminent Thursday and that both Portland and Utah are still evaluating multiple trade scenarios. But two sources with knowledge of the three-team proposal confirmed that there have been substantive talks regarding a trade that would land Boozer in Chicago, Hinrich in Portland and Tyrus Thomas in Utah. If Utah is serious about moving Boozer in order to keep Milsap maybe we could get in on this deal and have Thomas come here for part of the TE, instead of ending up in Utah as a backup. They might not want to keep his $4.7M salary for a backup. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4317515

quote: Another major multiteam trade might be looming in the NBA with the Portland Trail Blazers, Utah Jazz and Chicago Bulls having discussed a deal that would be headlined by Carlos Boozer and Kirk Hinrich, according to NBA front-office sources.Sources stressed to ESPN.com that no deal was imminent Thursday and that both Portland and Utah are still evaluating multiple trade scenarios. But two sources with knowledge of the three-team proposal confirmed that there have been substantive talks regarding a trade that would land Boozer in Chicago, Hinrich in Portland and Tyrus Thomas in Utah. If Utah is serious about moving Boozer in order to keep Milsap maybe we could get in on this deal and have Thomas come here for part of the TE, instead of ending up in Utah as a backup. They might not want to keep his $4.7M salary for a backup. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4317515

quote: Originally posted by Knappy:Give Grant Hill a shot on the Magic - no - he is dead to me. He is not as hated as Shaq is, but the guy is a bum and is dead to me. I would not take him for free - he is washed up and would take playing time away from another player - I would have no interest in Grant Hill and Grant Hill has no interest in the Magic. I don't think it is likely, as I seem to recall write-ups about Otis not making him an offer a couple of years ago, or making it after he already talked to Phoenix? Anyone else remember that? I also think the fact Turk is no longer here, and there is a potential to start at the SF would be an incentive. I seem to recall he wasn't really happy as the SG. I think he might be an interesting addition, and might even start at the SF - leaving you with MP as that valuable sixth man role backing up both the SG/SF spots. He definitely has some of the same ball-handling ability that went away with Turk. I have lost some respect for him, because he left; but coming back for the leftover MLE or even the vet min might win some of that respect back.

quote: Originally posted by T REX:Boston is clearly the Eastern fav. They took us 7 games without arguably their best player and added Sheed. We basically blew up our team. This is one of the few things you actually said that I do agree with. Boston may be the EC favorite, and they did take us 7 games without KG. That does worry me. However, Boston is getting older, there three stars and there "big" FA pickup are all older than Vince Carter, so what does that say for your other points? If he is on the downside, then aren't all of Boston's stars? How about Cleveland's big trade? Oh that's right, Shaq. Wow, he's older than VC as well. Maybe they should all sit in rocking chairs together on the porch of Cracker Barrel and wait to die.

quote: Originally posted by T REX:He also shot a blistering 39% last playoff appearance. He jacks it up a lot. Never thought much of him just because his teams never went anywhere. Overrated. He's not much of a catalyst either. Sorry, just my humble opinion. How many teams go to the finals and totally blow up their roster? Hedo didn't shoot much better in the playoffs as a whole this year, and has never "carried" a team by himself. In fact, he was an integral part of the Magic team that won a whopping 21 games, so that we got Dwight. Wow, I sure will miss his ability to "carry" the team.

I believe that you are correct - the league picks up part of the tab on veteran minimum contracts - I think up to 50% depending upon years in the league.

quote: Originally posted by Joe_PR:Marbury's a headcase. Boston had the very strong veteran leadership required to keep a guy like that in line. I don't think we have that, and I don't think that he brings anything to the table that is worth the risk of any potential drama. Hey, what's with the proper name - this is the pronoun only thread. It should be you-know-who from the team in the northeast was kept in line by the veteran leadership. Then I would have to repond that he was a headache in the big city, and I think a group of veterans not being willing to listen to his crap might alter his behavior in the short term, but doubt it would have a long term impact on his inate personality.

quote: Originally posted by Magic Fins:LOL...all these similies and metaphores about Otis are cracking me up. "Its like Otis is rubbing peanut butter in a semi-circular motion on his nipples, but we can't lick it off!" LOL... BTW, GET BASS!!! Post of the day!!(Though I prefer Hersheys chocolate syrup to peanut butter)

quote: Originally posted by gAmE.oVe|2:it would be nice to have him...hopefully he realizes he is not going to get what he wants due to the bad market...you never know he might be available to be had once reality sets in Yeah, he will probably go a lot cheaper, but he is also a RFA, and if it is MLE or less you know NYK will match.

quote: Originally posted by Mr Charisma:Either that, or maybe it's because Yao kept his mouth shut instead of announcing that he would indeed be playing the next year then, after the IE was rejected, announcing that he would miss the next season after all. Apparently you forgot what a "class act" Grant Hill truly is. Actually, what Grant said was that he continuing to rehab with a hope of being able to come back - if you read the full article, it is exactly what Houston is saying about Yao, which is why it burns my a** so much that I started my first thread ever about the issue.

quote: Originally posted by Escobar06:Even if it means a decline in defense? I'm not saying it will, but until he shows what kind of defender he is nobody knows. And we were successful last year with Rashard at the 4 because he could do much more than shoot the 3. Can Anderson? His 39 percent shooting percentage tells me no. And if he can't consistently hit shots from other areas of the court or show the ability to get to the rim defenders will just play tight against him at the three point line and render him useless. Defenders know Rashard has a decent post up game and can finish pretty well at the rim. They also know he can shoot from pretty much anywhere. Unless RA shows the same he'll be nothing more than a bigger JJ. You have made some interesting points, but I think you need to take a couple steps back - you are comparing last years full roster to an incomplete one. At this point, we don't know what the rest of our team will be, and that is of great concern; but you are missing out on some key issues. 1) A PF who can hit the outside shot is pulling a larger defender away from the basket, making it more difficult to double team Dwight with two big bodies. That is the major concept this team was built around - so the Anderson v Lee argument needs to take that into account. Is Lee a better 3-point shooter right now? Yes. Can he pull the PF or SF off of Dwight? Probably not. 2)Is Vince an upgrade from Hedo? Scoring numbers say yes, assists/ball-handling is debatable, rebounds is a toss-up. Teams last year played Hedo fairly tight at the 3-line, because he doesn't have the quickest first step. I think VC is a touch quicker, even at a couple years older. Also, you are only tied to VC for two years, with a team option for the third. Hedo wanted a 5-6 year deal. While his game isn't as dependent on speed as VC's, it is dependent on an ability to shoot over people. I think 3 years down the line, Hedo will start getting blocked a lot outside, as his jumpshot starts to have less jump. 3) Gortat is too good a C to only play 10 minutes a game, but not a good enough shooter to play the PF next to Dwight. Can he develop? Maybe. Do we commit 5 years to that possibility? I think that depends on what else is available. Finally, what else is available still. Bass, Baby Davis, Leon Powe, Channing Frye, Linas Kleiza just to name a few. Of those five Frye is the only one over 25 (he's 26), and Davis/Kleiza are restricted. Ever think Otis might be holding back a little to see who won't be able to match a restricted's contract offer? You have a number of older guys who could help your bench too. Ratliff, Ilgauskas, LaFrentz, Marshall, Desmond Mason, etc. What I am saying is, it is the first day that FA can sign contracts or offer sheets; and it aint over til the fat guy runs!! full list of available FA here: http://www.nba.com/freeagents/2009/