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  1. jmmagicfan

    MAGIC @ Spurs Official Game Thread 8.30 EST

    This and this! System wouldn't let me up-vote them both - go figure! I'm guessing the thought was if you have Cole and Jalen both out there, then neither one has to do ALL of the PG duties, but can kind of committee it? The problem is that Cole is definitely ball-dominant right now, and Jalen seems to be in slight deferral mode, since he is so new to the league/team. I'm hoping that will change as he becomes acclimated to the size and speed of the NBA - hopefully sooner than later.
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    2021-2022 General Game Thread

    I see some tools there, and I think the game will slow down for both Suggs and Franz Wagner. How long it will take for it to slow down is anyone's guess. I think it will start to slow down before the All-Star break for both. I think judging either of them on the first game, starting as rookies, with the other starters being a second-year (Anthony), and two fourth-year (WCJ & Bamba) is not realistic. Throw in that Bamba is really playing meaningful minutes for the first time in his career, and that we have five of the regular roster players out (MCW, Harris, Okeke, Fultz, Isaac) and I can't say I'm surprised.
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    2021-2022 General Game Thread

    I don't know about anyone else, but I am rooting for the team to play hard and win. I may eventually switch to tanking; but only late in the season if/when we are realistically outside of any hope to make the playoffs. Even then, I root for our guys to play hard and play as a team, and continue to improve as players.
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    2021-2022 General Game Thread

    That means we still have Anthony, Harris, Hampton as our "regular" guards and TRoss as a 2/3. Even with 4 guards out, we still have backcourt presence.
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    2021-2022 Orlando Magic Season Thread… Let’s Goo!!!

    I don't understand why the Magic aren't getting even a little more love from the national media - yes, we are very young; yes, we have had a lot of injury issues; and yes, we have another new coach; but come on, 29 out of 30? Really? If a couple of our young players take even moderate steps forward, we should be at least mediocre. I'm not predicting playoffs, but I don't think we will be bottom 5 or 6 in the league either. I think we have already seen some positive progression over last season from both WCJ and Bamba, and some indications that Hampton and Anthony may be levelling up as well. Throw in Suggs, get back at least two of Fultz, Okeke, and Isaac healthy, and you may actually have something. I can see enough potential to justify moving us up to the low twenties, anyway. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens. I am a little concerned with our depth at the SF, as most of our wings are more SG mold, but hopefully Okeke can get healthy and provide some time there. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32399420/nba-preview-2021-22-power-rankings-projections-breakout-stars-storylines-all-30-teams
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    2021-2022 Orlando Magic Season Thread… Let’s Goo!!!

    Just saw that we have waived Cannady, and signed BJ Johnson to a "training camp contract"?!? Not sure how that works when we've already finished our pre-season games, but as a sweet-shooting, lefty, SF, I like the fit better. This may just be a G-League team building move, but we will see.
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    2021-2022 Orlando Magic Season Thread… Let’s Goo!!!

    I think they both can play it in certain situations - Franz is 6'9" and a bit more athletic, he's more of a 3(4); Moe is 6'11" and is more of a 5(4). Currently, Moe is a bit better a 3-pt shooter and player, in my opinion; but I think Franz is a better defender, and has more upside once he gets acclimated to the speed/athleticism of the pro game and it slows down for him.
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    2021-2022 Orlando Magic Season Thread… Let’s Goo!!!

    Yes it will - also interesting to see who we use the second 2-way spot on. We already have 15 regular roster spots and one 2-way taken, so that is all that is left. Suggs/Fultz/Anthony Harris/Hampton/Moore/MCW Ross/F Wagner/Brazdeikis (2W) Okeke/Isaac/M Wagner WCJ/Bamba/Lopez I can't see us using a 2-way on another guard, but three of our training camp guys are guards - Cannady, Dowtin, and Gravett. We signed/waived two centers, and the only forward, Schofield didn't really get any play in the pre-season.
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    2021-2022 Orlando Magic Season Thread… Let’s Goo!!!

    Part of why I am disappointed we signed Moore instead of bringing back Ennis. We needed another SF much more than we needed another guard.
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    2021-2022 Orlando Magic Season Thread… Let’s Goo!!!

    Bamba, WCJ, Lopez, M Wagner
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    2021-2022 Orlando Magic Season Thread… Let’s Goo!!!

    I have a feeling that management wanted a good look at Gravett and Dowtin for that second 2-way contract; and they didn't want anyone else starting the season injured. Also, no Suggs tonight - out with non-Covid illness.
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    2021-2022 Orlando Magic Season Thread… Let’s Goo!!!

    Bruised right hip apparently. Listed as "limited" for training camp.
  13. I don't start a lot of new threads, but since I have already seen a couple of things that probably belong in this type of thread, I thought I would start one.
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    2021 Off-Season Discussion Thread

    Yes, that is true, Delta did start in India; however, it has rapidly become the primary variant here in the US because 1) it is much more contagious than the original variant, and 2) the large number of people here in the US who were, and remain unvaccinated have given it a ready base of those to infect. While it is true that those who are vaccinated CAN contract the disease, most of the resulting infections are much less virulent. That is why 90+% of those requiring hospitalization/ICU rooms for Covid are those who were unvaccinated. And while there is always a portion of the population who CAN NOT be vaccinated (children below a certain age, and certain adults who are immuno-compromised) we have managed to derail and eradicate other pandemic diseases by mandating that those who can take the vaccine do so. The main difference is that in the past, we have not had politicians (and others) spreading incorrect/alternate "facts" across an information superhighway, and making vaccination and mask wearing into such politically divisive issues. This is not the flu, which in a bad year may kill 60-70,000 people, this is a pandemic that is both much more contagious (4-5X more), and much more virulent (8-10X the mortality rate). This isn't just about one player, or one person; it is about a reckless disregard for the entire community. Frankly, if Isaac comes down with an extended case of COVID (a la Bamba), I hope management will take drastic steps to financially punish him for this recklessness and poor decision; up to and including voiding his contract. Bamba did not have a choice to take a vaccine that might have prevented him getting ill, or mitigated the length of his recovery, so I don't hold any of that against him. Isaac does.
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    2021 Off-Season Discussion Thread

    100% this! Maybe offer him a shooting coach position with both our team and Lakeland, so he doesn't have to travel any more, but can just be based here in Orlando and we can maximize his talents with all of our young players!
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    2021 Off-Season Discussion Thread

    I think tanking does have a place, but as you said, you have to try to build/develop. I also "want to see a well coached team ..." I agree with your post 100% Finding that balance, of tanking ONLY when necessary is the hard part. I think our biggest mistakes over the last ten years have been largely a result of getting stuck on Elfrid Payton. He was a large part of the reason we kept Fournier, and traded Oladipo. His shortfalls as a player/point guard stunted the development of those around him. We made poor trades partly to build around his shortcomings, but they never worked. I will be the first to admit, I liked what we saw from him in "flashes", but the problem was we never saw enough of them and they never came together. While I think our front office waited too long to blow it up and start over, I can see part of the reasoning - they needed to see how much development was left once Payton was removed from the grouping, see if there was recovery despite the "stunting", and see what they had to build with/around. They also had to try and build value with those players to make a restart possible. Do I think it could have been done sooner; possibly. Would we have gotten what we did for Vuc and AG any earlier; doubtful.
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    2021 Off-Season Discussion Thread

    We extended at 4yr/$80M on a declining contract - they re-signed for $12M more over 4 years, so average an additional $3M per. (I'd be happy to take that extra $3M a year, how about you?)
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    2021 Off-Season Discussion Thread

    That's why I said I wasn't sure if we should consider - I am not pushing for Simmons at all. I can see him going either way from this point on. He has never really shown much concern for improving his free throw/outside shooting in the past, as he has made a couple of All-Star appearances without doing so. The question becomes, does he now start working on shooting improvement as a result of his playoff issues; or does he "double down" on not needing to. If he has a new commitment to improve his shooting, then I probably would consider something like I listed (thinking that's what Philly would demand). Without that focus to improve his shooting, I am not interested, as he strikes me as a regular-season star who won't lead you to a 'ship.
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    2021 Off-Season Discussion Thread

    I would be surprised if it is us, but you never know. I can't see anything built around Fultz for obvious reasons, so what would they want? Probably two of Suggs, Anthony, Hampton, Isaac, plus multiple first round picks, and Harris or Ross to make the numbers work. Probably something like this (we can trade both '22 and '23 first round because we have the Chicago first round) G Harris, Hampton, Suggs, 2022 1st (Top 5 protected), 2023 1st (Top 5 protected) for Simmons and Isaiah Joe. Not sure if they can do better, not sure if we should consider. It would leave us financially tied up for a long time with Simmons, Fultz, and Isaac's contracts, WCJ/Bamba both up for new contracts next year, and Anthony/Okeke due soon after.
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    2021 Off-Season Discussion Thread

    I think we have to be moving another guard out. More likely Harris with the big expiring.
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    2021 Off-Season Discussion Thread

    We do? Isaac, Okeke, F Wagner are really the only true forwards on the team. Ross is really a SG, and M Wagner is more a C. Iggy is a 2WP.
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    2021 Off-Season Discussion Thread

    Because he brings you so much more during the regular season when it is harder to prepare specifically for him? And the thought that he is still fairly young and may be able to improve both the FT and 3PT shooting to continue expanding his game? He is a multiple time All-Star for a reason, even with his flaw(s).
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    2021 Off-Season Discussion Thread

    Agree - if it doesn't convey the first year due to protections, then those protections should be less or removed completely in subsequent years. So if it is lottery-protected in '22, it should be nor more than top-4 in '23, top-1 in '24, unprotected in '25. The problem is, there is a limit on how far out you can trade a first-round pick.
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    2021 Off-Season Discussion Thread

    Maybe he had anxiety about playing in Toronto/Canada? Nothing against the Raptors, but they are the only team that was unable to play on their home court last year due to Canada's restrictions for COVID. It left them playing in Tampa, FL for the season, and may have contributed to discomfort for players/free agents; since there isn't any guarantee they might be having to temporarily relocate again as the delta variant is increasing cases. If so, it probably won't be here in Florida.
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    2021 Off-Season Discussion Thread

    I think that is a pretty fair comparison for WCJ, maybe a little strong for what Bamba has shown so far; but who knows what will happen this season. The fact that Bamba was one of the first to go work with the new coach, and travelled to Vegas to continue working with the summer league team, even though he wasn't playing, says a lot about how seriously he is taking this summer, this season, and the chance to "re-boot" his career with the team.
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