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1 hour ago, Jason Funderburker said:

I don’t think it is pampering to hold a player out on a back to back when they are returning from injury

to be fair, Franz recently came back and he plays back to back.

 

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3 minutes ago, Jamesdin said:

to be fair, Franz recently came back and he plays back to back.

 

Franz hasn't had 2 season ending ACL injuries. 

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3 hours ago, CTMagicUK said:

Franz hasn't had 2 season ending ACL injuries. 

Those were 3yrs ago. Their recent injury were not acl related. Its not as if we have clinched to rest players. 

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15 minutes ago, Jamesdin said:

Those were 3yrs ago. Their recent injury were not acl related. Its not as if we have clinched to rest players. 

It's been his same left knee as far as I'm aware.

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Both Fultz and Isaac? Fultz just recently came back but Isaac has been in and out of the rotation for a while now and was not even playing heavy minutes. I am thinking if player have a say about his health. This team is too cautious

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6 minutes ago, Jamesdin said:

Both Fultz and Isaac? Fultz just recently came back but Isaac has been in and out of the rotation for a while now and was not even playing heavy minutes. I am thinking if player have a say about his health. This team is too cautious

Jonathan Isaac has been injured more than he's been healthy in his NBA career including several seasons ending injuries, multiple surgeries etc. 

A healthy Jonathan Isaac is one of the best defensive players on planet Earth. 

Why wouldn't we be cautious with him? 

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Orlando Magic

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Trade meter: 6

What to watch: Markelle FultzGary Harris and Wendell Carter Jr.

Three years after tearing down their roster, the Magic are in a position to make trades to improve the on-court product this season.

Orlando is a play-in team at the very minimum and has the roster resources to add shooting without skipping the steps of player development.

Per Cleaning the Glass, Orlando ranks 27th in field goal percentage for mid-range shots outside of 14 feet, 28th in corner 3s and 27th in three-point field goal percentage. The Magic are 12-6 in games when they shoot better than 35.0% from 3.

The Magic have the expiring contracts of Harris ($13 million) and Fultz ($19 million) available to trade. Fultz was the starter in the beginning of the season before missing two months with a left knee injury.

Harris shot a career-high 43.1% from 3 last season but has struggled this season, hitting only 33.3% from deep. He is the second-oldest player on the roster and there needs to be careful consideration of trading a veteran presence.

Carter was the starting center before he fractured his left finger on Nov. 2 and missed 20 games. He returned in late December but missed two games in January with knee tendonitis. His replacement, Goga Bitadze, averaged 7.0 points and 6.5 rebounds.

Carter is on a descending contract ($13 million, $11.9 million and $10.9 million) and unless Orlando is getting his replacement or a perimeter player on a controllable contract, he should be on the roster past the deadline.

Front office trade history: The retooling of the Magic roster started in March 2021 when Aaron GordonNikola Vucevic and Evan Fournierwere traded in three separate deals. Orlando received Carter, Harris and three first-round picks. Two of the firsts resulted in starter Franz Wagner and rookie Jett Howard.

Last regular-season trade: Traded Mo Bambato the Lakers for Patrick Beverley and a 2024 second-round pick.

Trade we would like to see: Two separate trades. The Magic send Harris and the 2025 Denver first to Sacramento for Kevin Huerter. Orlando receives Jonas Valanciunas and Dyson Daniels from New Orleans for Carter and Okeke.

Trade exceptions: None

Cash available: $7.0 million (out) | $7.0 million (receive)

Salary info and restrictions

  • The Magic are $5.1 million below the salary cap.

  • Cole Anthony has a poison-pill restriction. For trade purposes, $5.5 million is used as his outgoing salary and $11.1 million in incoming salary for an acquiring team.

Draft assets

  • The Magic have their own first-round picks in the next seven years.

  • Orlando will receive a 2025 top-5 protected first from Denver. The pick is top-5 protected in 2026 and 2027.

  • Orlando has the right to swap its 2026 first for the less favorable of the Suns' and Wizards' picks.

  • The Magic have 12 second-round picks available to trade.

  • Draft rights: Janis Timma and Fran Vazquez.

This is today from Bobby Marks …the 6 for trade meter is based on 10 being the highest chance 

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/39344561/2024-nba-trade-deadline-complete-eastern-conference-preview

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26 minutes ago, ball junkie said:

Orlando has the right to swap its 2026 first for the less favorable of the Suns' and Wizards' picks.

This might end up being a great asset. 

In 2026 the Wizards will likely still be terrible and the Suns will be coming off a season where they payed a 37 year old Kevin Durant and 32 year old Bradley Beal (who already rarely plays over 60 games a season) a combined 108 million dollars. 

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1 hour ago, ball junkie said:

Orlando Magic

orl.png&w=110&h=110

Trade meter: 6

What to watch: Markelle FultzGary Harris and Wendell Carter Jr.

Three years after tearing down their roster, the Magic are in a position to make trades to improve the on-court product this season.

Orlando is a play-in team at the very minimum and has the roster resources to add shooting without skipping the steps of player development.

Per Cleaning the Glass, Orlando ranks 27th in field goal percentage for mid-range shots outside of 14 feet, 28th in corner 3s and 27th in three-point field goal percentage. The Magic are 12-6 in games when they shoot better than 35.0% from 3.

The Magic have the expiring contracts of Harris ($13 million) and Fultz ($19 million) available to trade. Fultz was the starter in the beginning of the season before missing two months with a left knee injury.

Harris shot a career-high 43.1% from 3 last season but has struggled this season, hitting only 33.3% from deep. He is the second-oldest player on the roster and there needs to be careful consideration of trading a veteran presence.

Carter was the starting center before he fractured his left finger on Nov. 2 and missed 20 games. He returned in late December but missed two games in January with knee tendonitis. His replacement, Goga Bitadze, averaged 7.0 points and 6.5 rebounds.

Carter is on a descending contract ($13 million, $11.9 million and $10.9 million) and unless Orlando is getting his replacement or a perimeter player on a controllable contract, he should be on the roster past the deadline.

Front office trade history: The retooling of the Magic roster started in March 2021 when Aaron GordonNikola Vucevic and Evan Fournierwere traded in three separate deals. Orlando received Carter, Harris and three first-round picks. Two of the firsts resulted in starter Franz Wagner and rookie Jett Howard.

Last regular-season trade: Traded Mo Bambato the Lakers for Patrick Beverley and a 2024 second-round pick.

Trade we would like to see: Two separate trades. The Magic send Harris and the 2025 Denver first to Sacramento for Kevin Huerter. Orlando receives Jonas Valanciunas and Dyson Daniels from New Orleans for Carter and Okeke.

Trade exceptions: None

Cash available: $7.0 million (out) | $7.0 million (receive)

Salary info and restrictions

  • The Magic are $5.1 million below the salary cap.

  • Cole Anthony has a poison-pill restriction. For trade purposes, $5.5 million is used as his outgoing salary and $11.1 million in incoming salary for an acquiring team.

Draft assets

  • The Magic have their own first-round picks in the next seven years.

  • Orlando will receive a 2025 top-5 protected first from Denver. The pick is top-5 protected in 2026 and 2027.

  • Orlando has the right to swap its 2026 first for the less favorable of the Suns' and Wizards' picks.

  • The Magic have 12 second-round picks available to trade.

  • Draft rights: Janis Timma and Fran Vazquez.

This is today from Bobby Marks …the 6 for trade meter is based on 10 being the highest chance 

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/39344561/2024-nba-trade-deadline-complete-eastern-conference-preview

No thank you to those trades. Giving up a first especially 2025 which is supposed to be a deep draft for Kevin Huerter is terrible asset management. Trading WCJ for Valanciunas makes this team worse and doesn’t address our shooting concerns. 

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