Magicpassion 4 Report post Posted October 29, 2018 56 minutes ago, ?4thewin said: He's currently having a good year with the exception of the last game. Before Saturday he was averaging 16.2 and 9 on 48/40/63 shooting and good defense. 12 fga per game. He needs more shots if you want him to be an all star. But at the same time I don't know where the shots should be coming from with the 3 games prior to Saturday Fournier was averaging 20.7 with 6 assists on 44/43/100 shooting and 17.3 fga per game and vucevic was averaging 25 12 and 5 on 63/78/86 shooting. 16.3 fga per game. We can't keep fournier and vucevic useful while also getting Gordon 16 fga per game. Running the offense through Gordon actively hurts vucevic's value and vice versa. AG stats Season Age Tm Lg Pos G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS Career NBA 269 180 26.2 4.3 9.6 .450 0.9 3.1 .309 3.4 6.6 .516 .499 1.9 2.7 .696 1.6 4.4 5.9 1.7 0.8 0.6 1.2 2.0 11.5 2014-15 19 ORL NBA PF 47 8 17.0 2.0 4.4 .447 0.3 1.0 .271 1.7 3.4 .500 .478 0.9 1.3 .721 1.0 2.6 3.6 0.7 0.4 0.5 0.8 1.8 5.2 2015-16 20 ORL NBA PF 78 37 23.9 3.5 7.4 .473 0.5 1.8 .296 3.0 5.6 .531 .509 1.7 2.5 .668 2.0 4.5 6.5 1.6 0.8 0.7 0.8 2.0 9.2 2016-17 21 ORL NBA SF 80 72 28.7 4.9 10.8 .454 1.0 3.3 .288 4.0 7.5 .528 .499 2.0 2.7 .719 1.5 3.6 5.1 1.9 0.8 0.5 1.1 2.2 12.7 2017-18 22 ORL NBA PF 58 57 32.9 6.5 14.9 .434 2.0 5.9 .336 4.5 9.0 .497 .500 2.7 3.9 .698 1.5 6.4 7.9 2.3 1.0 0.8 1.8 1.9 17.6 2018-19 23 ORL NBA PF 6 6 32.2 5.3 12.7 .421 1.3 4.3 .308 4.0 8.3 .480 .474 3.0 4.7 .643 2.3 6.0 8.3 2.3 0.7 1.0 2.7 3.0 15.0 Year 5 a few things stick out, but it’s early Compared to other power forwards 3pt 31% regressed #36, fg% regressed below 34 power forwards, 2.7 TURNOVERS this year going up below 40 power forwards, REBOUNDING should be 9/10 #12, free throws needs to go up to at least 75% (regressed) especially if he drives, below top 40, 1 BLOCK is about average Tied 17 th, STEALS .7 is below average tied 21. If you recall by last year he was a notoriously a fast starter and then regressed as teams got in shape and wear and tear. I hope he does the opposite this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted October 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, Magicpassion said: AG stats Season Age Tm Lg Pos G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS Career NBA 269 180 26.2 4.3 9.6 .450 0.9 3.1 .309 3.4 6.6 .516 .499 1.9 2.7 .696 1.6 4.4 5.9 1.7 0.8 0.6 1.2 2.0 11.5 2014-15 19 ORL NBA PF 47 8 17.0 2.0 4.4 .447 0.3 1.0 .271 1.7 3.4 .500 .478 0.9 1.3 .721 1.0 2.6 3.6 0.7 0.4 0.5 0.8 1.8 5.2 2015-16 20 ORL NBA PF 78 37 23.9 3.5 7.4 .473 0.5 1.8 .296 3.0 5.6 .531 .509 1.7 2.5 .668 2.0 4.5 6.5 1.6 0.8 0.7 0.8 2.0 9.2 2016-17 21 ORL NBA SF 80 72 28.7 4.9 10.8 .454 1.0 3.3 .288 4.0 7.5 .528 .499 2.0 2.7 .719 1.5 3.6 5.1 1.9 0.8 0.5 1.1 2.2 12.7 2017-18 22 ORL NBA PF 58 57 32.9 6.5 14.9 .434 2.0 5.9 .336 4.5 9.0 .497 .500 2.7 3.9 .698 1.5 6.4 7.9 2.3 1.0 0.8 1.8 1.9 17.6 2018-19 23 ORL NBA PF 6 6 32.2 5.3 12.7 .421 1.3 4.3 .308 4.0 8.3 .480 .474 3.0 4.7 .643 2.3 6.0 8.3 2.3 0.7 1.0 2.7 3.0 15.0 Year 5 a few things stick out, but it’s early Compared to other power forwards 3pt 31% regressed #36, fg% regressed below 34 power forwards, 2.7 TURNOVERS this year going up below 40 power forwards, REBOUNDING should be 9/10 #12, free throws needs to go up to at least 75% (regressed) especially if he drives, below top 40, 1 BLOCK is about average Tied 17 th, STEALS .7 is below average tied 21. If you recall by last year he was a notoriously a fast starter and then regressed as teams got in shape and wear and tear. I hope he does the opposite this year. It's been 6 games Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicpassion 4 Report post Posted October 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, ?4thewin said: It's been 6 games Like I said, it’s early, so we’ll see. I’m pulling for him. No disrespect ?4thewin I think your basketball knowledge is sound. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted October 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Magicpassion said: Like I said, it’s early, so we’ll see. I’m pulling for him. It's just pointless to analyze numbers right now. A single three point attempt swings his three point percentage by 4%. His 3 block game represents 50% of his blocked shot production. 33% of his missed threes came from the last game. 50% of his made threes came in game 1. 48% of vucevic's assists came from one game. 67% of his blocks came from another. 32% of fournier's points came from one game. 39% of his assists came from another. We haven't seen enough of anyone to judge their seasons yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeHateMe 697 Report post Posted October 30, 2018 I think it’s entirely to early to judge. But I think we can all agree, especially after game 1, that it would have been nice for AG to have gotten off to a better start this year. I’m in no way judging his season or writing him off but after 6 games it looks like the same AG as last year. Had he built off game 1 we’d all feel a lot different about things right now. So yes, it’s to early to judge anything. But it’s also alright to have wished AG would have come out of the gates swinging this year. Im surprised no one is mentioning why Simmons and Ross continue to get 23mpg despite utterly horrific shooting. Simmons more so as he’s been absolutely horrific but idk how much longer I’ll be able to watch those 2 go out and build brick houses. People dump on Vuch and Fournier but Simmons and Ross are black holes on offense. If we’re gonna watch guys throw up bricks all game let Frazier give it a shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicpassion 4 Report post Posted October 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, HeHateMe said: I think it’s entirely to early to judge. But I think we can all agree, especially after game 1, that it would have been nice for AG to have gotten off to a better start this year. I’m in no way judging his season or writing him off but after 6 games it looks like the same AG as last year. Had he built off game 1 we’d all feel a lot different about things right now. So yes, it’s to early to judge anything. But it’s also alright to have wished AG would have come out of the gates swinging this year. Im surprised no one is mentioning why Simmons and Ross continue to get 23mpg despite utterly horrific shooting. Simmons more so as he’s been absolutely horrific but idk how much longer I’ll be able to watch those 2 go out and build brick houses. People dump on Vuch and Fournier but Simmons and Ross are black holes on offense. If we’re gonna watch guys throw up bricks all game let Frazier give it a shot. Let’s hope they’re showcasing for trades. I’d like to see Frazier get some burn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted October 30, 2018 GOLDEN STATE HAS 92 POINTS AT HALF 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~O~ 565 Report post Posted October 30, 2018 I'd hate for us to be dominated like the Bulls have been tonight. Scottie Pippen is in attendence so I'm guessing this is for the shade he's thrown at them. Boy....I was rooting for them to score 100! Sheesh. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted October 30, 2018 3 hours ago, magicdoc1 said: I am also amazed on how much hate AG gets here. It reminds me a lot of the hate Oladipo was getting around here that year before he was traded away. Now, he is a star on a different team. We need to be more patient with AG. He is clearly a great player and will shine eventually once we get a better playmaker that can run a better offense. .He clearly has the talent, athleticism and defensive talent to become an allstar. We need to be more patient. Same goes with Isaac and Bamba. I like AG but Dipo had other weaknesses. Finishing because he lacked strength and shooting. AG’s problem is while he can dribble, he’s not real smooth at breaking defenders down. It’s kinda clunky and resorts to over dribbling. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeHateMe 697 Report post Posted October 30, 2018 18 minutes ago, ?4thewin said: GOLDEN STATE HAS 92 POINTS AT HALF The disparity in the nba is insane. You have the Warriors who could win a gold medal in the Olympics and then the Bulls who might not be able to beat Duke with their current roster. I’m kidding. But it is crazy how horrible some teams are. Really makes you wonder if there ever will be light at the end of the tunnel for the Magic. They just seem so so far away from anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeHateMe 697 Report post Posted October 30, 2018 Also I haven’t seen any “hate” towards AG. You’re allowed to say something negative towards a player without it being hate. Saying “AG sucks” is hate. Saying “AG needs to be more consistent” isn’t. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~O~ 565 Report post Posted October 30, 2018 Klay sets the record for threes in a game. 14 threes. Passes Curry off an assist.....from Curry lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
