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Orlando Magic

1. Agreed to a reported three-year, $20 million with guard Jonathon Simmons

 

A day after the San Antonio Spurs rescinded his qualifying offer, making him an unrestricted free agent, Simmons has a new home in Orlando. While the money surely isn't what Simmons was hoping after his terrific Western Conference finals performance against the Golden State Warriors, it still represents a nice payday less than four years after he paid to try out with the Austin Spurs.

 

Simmons has the defensive end of the 3-and-D equation down. His plus-1.1 defensive rating in ESPN's real plus-minus (RPM) ranked him among the top 10 shooting guards. Simmons is capable of defending point guards and many small forwards and immediately becomes the Magic's best wing defender.

 

Still, I think this is closer to Simmons' actual value than the $10 million a year I anticipated he'd get coming into the summer. Simmons posted a .586 true shooting percentage as a rookie on the strength of attempting nearly half his shot attempts inside three feet (47.9 percent, according to Basketball-Reference.com) and making 38.3 percent of his 3s. Those rates dropped to 34.9 percent inside three feet and 29.4 percent 3-point shooting last season, and Simmons' true shooting percentage was an underwhelming .504.

 

If Simmons can become a league-average 3-point shooter, he'll almost certainly be underpaid at less than the non-taxpayer midlevel exception. At last season's level of offensive performance, this might be a slight overpay. Given that this looks like Orlando's last summer with significant cap space before possible extensions for Aaron Gordon and Elfrid Payton, that's a reasonable gamble.

http://insider.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/20053809/nba-free-agency-2017-best-worst-moves-day-14

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I'm not down on it because of the money. the money is fine.

 

I'm a little down on it because we're giving a prime spot in the rotation to a tough defensive guy who has unreliable offense to pair with a bunch of other players on the bench that do the same thing. Would rather have meeks. We're building Milwaukee without a Giannis and that is troubling.

I see your point, but I like the Simmons signing quite a bit. It does seem redundant but the new front office likes to trade. I'd rather have Simmons at 6 per than Fournier at 17 per, that's for sure.

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I'm not down on it because of the money. the money is fine.

 

I'm a little down on it because we're giving a prime spot in the rotation to a tough defensive guy who has unreliable offense to pair with a bunch of other players on the bench that do the same thing. Would rather have meeks. We're building Milwaukee without a Giannis and that is troubling.

 

 

You don't see a trade happening? Kinda feels like there will be.

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You don't see a trade happening? Kinda feels like there will be.

 

If its based around Fournier or ross ok.

 

If its just clearing out Mario that doesn't help the issue

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You don't see a trade happening? Kinda feels like there will be.

Maybe we are somehow a part of the Carmelo deal. Don't know how but maybe it was paused yesterday to allow us to try and strike a deal with Simmons before the trade occurs. Probably a long shot though

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Maybe we are somehow a part of the Carmelo deal. Don't know how but maybe it was paused yesterday to allow us to try and strike a deal with Simmons before the trade occurs. Probably a long shot though

 

 

Melo wouldn't agree to it and I wouldn't want it.

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If its based around Fournier or ross ok.

 

If its just clearing out Mario that doesn't help the issue

 

Wouldnt that hinder our already hindered offense? That makes no sense.

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Melo wouldn't agree to it and I wouldn't want it.

Dident mean we would get melo. We just might be one of the 4 teams

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