2016-2017 Season Discussion Thread

[Air Gordon 156]

So if both Biyombo and Vucevic are out tonight, are we going to see Ibaka at 5 and Gordon at 4?

Nope, 48 minutes of the Zimm!

[Magicman28 295]

So if both Biyombo and Vucevic are out tonight, are we going to see Ibaka at 5 and Gordon at 4?

 

 

Probably more Rudez and The Zimmer.

[Fultz4thewin 2,464]

No Vucevic tonight. Biyombo will play

[Fultz4thewin 2,464]

Denton

 

.@OrlandoMagic coach FVogel has been intrigued about playing @sergeibaka_7 at center. Might do that when @ATLHawks have Dwight Howard out.

[TheNameIsOrlando 310]

Denton

 

.@OrlandoMagic coach FVogel has been intrigued about playing @sergeibaka_7 at center. Might do that when @ATLHawks have Dwight Howard out.

 

Just do it already!!

[The Neighborhood Bully 266]

There seems to be a pattern with Hennigan’s draft picks or collection of young talent. Whether it is Aaron Gordon, Moe Harkless, Tobias Harris or even Elfrid Payton, Hennigan has never been shy of taking below-average shooters. “You can always teach shooting” is a common verbiage out there among NBA coaches and executives, supported by a few success stories along the way. On the whole, for every success story of retraining their shot to be effective, there are five projects that failed to develop consistency.

 

The Gordon treatment is the largest example of an issue Hennigan has exhibited throughout the Magic’s long, arduous rebuild post-Dwight Howard. Every high-level draft pick has been misused, tinkered with, log-jammed in rotations or prevented from garnering minutes altogether. 2015 first-rounder Mario Hezonja is a DNP-CD on most nights under Frank Vogel, and his development has hit a standstill after being taken over the likes of Myles Turner, Justise Winslow and Willie Cauley-Stein. Elfrid Payton hasn’t progressed as a scoring threat, but the organization never committed to providing shooters around him until placing him in a reserve role. Moe Harkless was dumped away for a top-55 protected pick and now starts on a top-five scoring team in the league. Even Victor Oladipo was slotted back and forth between lead guard and shooting guard continuously.

 

The Magic won’t improve their offense from within; this roster is almost maxed out when it comes to shooting ability and scorers capable of carrying a heavy load. Should Orlando brass decide to get aggressive this winter, there are certainly trades out there to be made. Brandon Knight from Phoenix could be available at the right price and usurp D.J. Augustin’s role as the starting point guard. Monta Ellis and Rudy Gay would be options as go-to scorers, but neither solve the spacing dilemma. Making a move as a buyer at the deadline would only be appropriate if the Magic really feel their defense is worthy of championship consideration, and they only are missing another guy who can get buckets to jump up in the Eastern standings.

 

Ultimately, the decision that Hennigan has to make is this: are the flaws of this roster worth pushing through if it means making the playoffs and a first-round exit? The 2017 NBA draft is a big one, and offers many prospects that could solve lots of the long-term issues revolving around roster construction. To miss out on that opportunity just so Hennigan can save his job after a seemingly long and botched rebuilding process is the definition of futility itself. There are only so many times he can try to jam a square peg in a round hole. Soaking 40 wins out of this roster only to continually miss out on a star would be a tough look for an organization still missing a star on the perimeter that can elevate them to elite heights.

 

Experimenting with Gordon at the small forward was a known risk at the beginning of the season. The true mark of Hennigan’s adjusted rebuild will be how quickly he is willing to pull the plug on a failed experiment. There are too many bigs on this roster that playing Gordon at the power forward spot is a waste of someone’s talent. Keeping Gordon at the 3 just to placate the rest of the roster in a feeble attempt to win now? That’s how general managers wind up looking for work.

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[Soul Bro 1,419]

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Wow. I liked this article

[Magicman28 295]

Wow. I liked this article

 

 

Yup. Henny gonna have to make a decision soon.

[Fultz4thewin 2,464]

Payton is now a 37% three point shooter of the bench

 

This is circumstantial.

 

He's 1/3, 3/3, 3/3 then 0/10 in the other 7 games

[Jay Magic 1,247]

No suprise Ibaka played C. The Magic are considering Ibaka and Gordon as their front court and adding shooting on the wing in a trade

 

Magic are looking at trades for wing scoring. Reality is that nothing is out there right now that is very enticing.

 

magical on twitter.

 

just posting what i see

[Magicman28 295]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F6IEubRSc8&ebc=ANyPxKqhBgzw1Vijf-p48pYFD7BOSYK0Y2U7lurV8B3TfWHOKVA7pGgD_qpXRIeVrXVBlabdG59UgpTiWcd3YjhnUArgpnI6aw

 

Tmac responding to 2030 goals. Take note to AG comment.

[Magicman28 295]

No suprise Ibaka played C. The Magic are considering Ibaka and Gordon as their front court and adding shooting on the wing in a trade

 

Magic are looking at trades for wing scoring. Reality is that nothing is out there right now that is very enticing.

 

magical on twitter.

 

just posting what i see

 

 

It's Magical but I really hope they are considering it.

 

Also would be good if true because that means we aren't pursuing Gay.