2016-2017 Season Discussion Thread

[rekraprovert 6]

I was too. Read my post again with a sarcastic tone.

 

Okay good, now that we're on the same page, let's share a hearty laugh. Haha

[The Neighborhood Bully 266]

Of all the new free agent signings, perhaps the biggest surprise package has been point guard D.J. Augustin. Initially brought in to provide a stable veteran presence behind starter Elfrid Payton, instead the 29-year-old proved himself to be a dynamic offensive.

 

He has been able to score the ball at times when the oft-stagnant Magic offense fell apart. His shooting from deep — 37.8 percent from beyond the arc — combined with a crafty wit around the basket that often sees him get to the free throw line, make him a valuable asset in the dying moments of the shot clock.

 

But things have been far from perfect for Augustin.

 

He has struggled on the defensive end of the floor, with his defensive box plus-minus standing at -3.6, the second worst figure for his career. He is rarely a disruptive defensive force, averaging just 0.7 steals per-36 minutes, and less than a single disruption per game.

 

Furthermore, Augustin’s time on the court has actually seen the Magic perform worse than when he is on the bench. With an on/off rating of -4.5 per game — as opposed to Elfrid Payton’s +4.0 — Augustin’s overall contribution to the team can at times be seen as questionable.

 

This may also reflect his struggles as a playmaker compared to the younger Payton, with Augustin’s time at the one-guard often seeing the Magic’s passing somewhat decline.

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[Fultz4thewin 2,464]

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Fwiw i think low steals is part of vogel's defensive philosophy.

 

Steals often require you to put yourself out of position which results in defensive breakdowns. Vogel just wants us to stay in front of the opponent.

[fan for too long 2 531]

Augustine is not starter quality. Very good off bench against lesser comp. Payton should start just for d but we need better wings

[Franchero MVP 391]

Augustine is not starter quality. Very good off bench against lesser comp. Payton should start just for d but we need better wings

Our problem is that Augustine and Payton are both better off the bench and neither of them are starter quality

[Franchero MVP 391]

I do have to admit however that our team looks overall better when Payton and Vuce both coming off the bench

[Fultz4thewin 2,464]

Our problem is that Augustine and Payton are both better off the bench and neither of them are starter quality

 

yeah. I think at times augustin is better than payton and at times payton is better than augustin. but nobody should confuse either guy with "legitimate starting point guard"

[Magicman28 295]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/orlando-2030/os-2030-orlando-magic-20161130-story.html

 

Lulz

[Mauro Pedrosa 1,032]

http://orlandomagicdaily.com/2016/12/12/alex-martins-orlando-magic-will-champs-2030/

 

Welp

[Fultz4thewin 2,464]

http://orlandomagicdaily.com/2016/12/12/alex-martins-orlando-magic-will-champs-2030/

 

Welp

 

to his credit, the sentinel is doing a "what will sports look like in 2030" story. so they specifically asked what the team will look like by 2030 and he responded the way he did.

[Soul Bro 1,419]

Any of you guys ever have a car you like break down over and over again? Costly repairs each time? Then you finally realize it's not worth fixing that same old car and you step up and get a newer one? Yeah, that's how I feel about this rebuild. If I'm honest, I'd rather start over again through the draft instead of trying to fix this mess.

[Odin 137]

So if both Biyombo and Vucevic are out tonight, are we going to see Ibaka at 5 and Gordon at 4?