fan for too long 2 532 Report post Posted August 24, 2016 he averaged almost 20 ppg that season... I think we can separate "grant hill the contract albatross that prevented us from fielding a competitive roster and wasted the career of a MVP candidate" from Grant Hill the guy who was an all star and still managed to put up 16 ppg in the 200 games he played in a magic uniform despite often playing with an ankle that pretty much wanted to secede from his body. A far cry from the 28 ppg guy we thought we were getting. But miraculously was cured when he went to Phoenix. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Neighborhood Bully 266 Report post Posted August 24, 2016 12. Orlando Magic Projected wins: 36.2 The Magic spent big on free agents D.J. Augustin (minus-1.6) and Jeff Green(minus-2.1), neither of whom RPM sees helping Orlando much on the court this season. http://www.espn.com/...-2016-17-season Between 35-40 W's is where I see us with the current roster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fan for too long 2 532 Report post Posted August 24, 2016 43+ wins is what I see this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CTMagicUK 1,488 Report post Posted August 24, 2016 [/size] http://www.espn.com/...-2016-17-season Between 35-40 W's is where I see us with the current roster. Good thing RPM is a terrible stat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted August 24, 2016 This is why I don't get upset when experts rank our offseason as really bad, or they can't understand at all what we're doing. When people expect Orlando to suck this year, I totally understand. I'm hopeful that we will make the playoffs, be a competitive team. But when what we have is so many questions, it's hard to expect anyone to see all of that stuff coming together at once. Yeah, the only problem is the people who think we're going to suck imagine that if there's a 40% chance that Payton takes a step forward and there's a 40% chance that Fournier is a 17+ ppg guy and a 40% chance that Gordon can play SF and a 40% chance hezonja is going to be a significant contributor and a 40% chance ibaka turns into the player we think he's going to be then none of those things are going to happen because it's not the most likely scenario. The correct way to look at it is a 40% likelihood of all of those things happening means it's extremely likely that at least two of those things are going to happen. And we don't need all of those things to happen for us to be a playoff team. That's why we have Augustin, Green, and Biyombo on the bench. Contingency plans. If we get two of the list things to happen, Vucevic to be who he is, and green/augustin/biyombo to meet base level expectations we're looking good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Catalina Maria 64 Report post Posted August 24, 2016 45 wins. Bank it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Catalina Maria 64 Report post Posted August 24, 2016 45 wins. Bank it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted August 24, 2016 eh, time will fix things. people felt the same way about shaq and mcgrady. I understood to some degree with Shaq and especially Tmac. Shaq hurt the worse personally. Dwight was just in another dimension of wtf's and smdh's. I was ready to move on before he did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted August 24, 2016 45 wins. Bank it. that seems like the right ballpark. Biyombo Ibaka Gordon Fournier Payton (vucevic, hezonja, augustin, green) vs 44 win Detroit Drummond Ilyasova/Harris morris KCP Jackson (Johnson, Tolliver, blake/Jennings, Baynes) vs 45 win Indiana Mahinmi Turner George Ellis Hill (miles, stuckey, Hill, Allen) seems like a similar ballpark. Lack of a George means maybe closer to 42. higher quality bench and young players who are likely to improve means maybe 48. 45 seems like the appropriate goal based on talent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay Magic 1,251 Report post Posted August 24, 2016 4th place and home court for the first round. I'm calling it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Catalina Maria 64 Report post Posted August 24, 2016 that seems like the right ballpark. Biyombo Ibaka Gordon Fournier Payton (vucevic, hezonja, augustin, green) vs 44 win Detroit Drummond Ilyasova/Harris morris KCP Jackson (Johnson, Tolliver, blake/Jennings, Baynes) vs 45 win Indiana Mahinmi Turner George Ellis Hill (miles, stuckey, Hill, Allen) seems like a similar ballpark. Lack of a George means maybe closer to 42. higher quality bench and young players who are likely to improve means maybe 48. 45 seems like the appropriate goal based on talent. I like your SL for us. That is some heavy duty defense for us! Vuc coming off the bench will be golden. He showed flashes of greatness coming off the bench. He can wreck havoc. This makes us very similar to the OKC Thunder lineup, and they are a team that made it to the conference finals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Catalina Maria 64 Report post Posted August 24, 2016 that seems like the right ballpark. Biyombo Ibaka Gordon Fournier Payton (vucevic, hezonja, augustin, green) vs 44 win Detroit Drummond Ilyasova/Harris morris KCP Jackson (Johnson, Tolliver, blake/Jennings, Baynes) vs 45 win Indiana Mahinmi Turner George Ellis Hill (miles, stuckey, Hill, Allen) seems like a similar ballpark. Lack of a George means maybe closer to 42. higher quality bench and young players who are likely to improve means maybe 48. 45 seems like the appropriate goal based on talent. I like your SL for us. That is some heavy duty defense for us! Vuc coming off the bench will be golden. He showed flashes of greatness coming off the bench. He can wreck havoc. This makes us very similar to the OKC Thunder lineup, and they are a team that made it to the conference finals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
