CTMagicUK 1,491 Report post Posted March 11, 2016 No on the I international player we screw ourselves enough doing that You're right, that one guy 10 years ago has really screwed us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justin Jaudon 221 Report post Posted March 11, 2016 I think my favorite player in this draft is Kay Felder. http://www.draftexpress.com/video/12091/ Also, TIL the college Oakland is not in Oakland, it's in Michigan. Damn... yes please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted March 11, 2016 Damn... yes please. I think if he was 6'2 rather than 5'9 he'd be the #2 pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeHateMe 697 Report post Posted March 11, 2016 I think if he was 6'2 rather than 5'9 he'd be the #2 pick. Funny, he's very Isaiah Thomas like and you aren't a fan of him. I like Kay too but he's not a great shooter and just takes a ton of shots. Plenty of Other late PG's I'd rather have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magicdoc1 261 Report post Posted March 11, 2016 He is exaxtly what JJ Barea was when he cam out of Northwestern. Very talented fast offensive minded player who will score a bunch but will not be more than just a good back up PG in the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted March 11, 2016 Funny, he's very Isaiah Thomas like and you aren't a fan of him. I like Kay too but he's not a great shooter and just takes a ton of shots. Plenty of Other late PG's I'd rather have. I like Isaiah Thomas. I just don't think he's an elite player. Kay is leading the ncaa in all point guard categories Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted March 11, 2016 He is exaxtly what JJ Barea was when he cam out of Northwestern. Very talented fast offensive minded player who will score a bunch but will not be more than just a good back up PG in the league. Sure, but if you can get "good backup point guard" at 41 you do it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeHateMe 697 Report post Posted March 11, 2016 I like Isaiah Thomas. I just don't think he's an elite player. Kay is leading the ncaa in all point guard categories That's not unusual though for a guy playing in a conference like the Horizon League. There's always players like Kay that put up huge numbers from those schools but it doesn't to often translate to NBA relevance. The guy plays almost every minute of every game and takes over 17 shots a game against inferior competition. He's not a very efficient scorer and won't have NBA 3 point range and is under 6 feet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted March 11, 2016 That's not unusual though for a guy playing in a conference like the Horizon League. There's always players like Kay that put up huge numbers from those schools but it doesn't to often translate to NBA relevance. The guy plays almost every minute of every game and takes over 17 shots a game against inferior competition. He's not a very efficient scorer and won't have NBA 3 point range and is under 6 feet. sure, but the draft express video goes through how he has more moves in his arsenal that gets him an opening on contested shots/lanes to the basket. That's what separates him from other small guards like Casper Ware. Dude put up 37 and 9 and almost knocked off Michigan State this year. put up 38 and 9 and knocked off Washington at Washington. These were back to back games. Had 30 points at Virginia Had 20 and 9 with 4 steals at Arizona last year 23 and 7 at pitt, lost in overtime 22 and 6 at maryland 23 and 10 at Iowa State That's enough good performances against good teams to deal with any doubts about his talent level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeHateMe 697 Report post Posted March 11, 2016 sure, but the draft express video goes through how he has more moves in his arsenal that gets him an opening on contested shots/lanes to the basket. That's what separates him from other small guards like Casper Ware. Dude put up 37 and 9 and almost knocked off Michigan State this year. put up 38 and 9 and knocked off Washington at Washington. These were back to back games. Had 30 points at Virginia Had 20 and 9 with 4 steals at Arizona last year 23 and 7 at pitt, lost in overtime 22 and 6 at maryland 23 and 10 at Iowa State That's enough good performances against good teams to deal with any doubts about his talent level. We'll see. Tyler Harvey led the nation in scoring last year too. Going against bigger guards in the NBA I don't see it. I wouldn't be mad if we took a flier on him in the second round but he comes off to me as a guy who will struggle mightily in the NBA. His usage is insane in college and he's not an efficient shooter. He won't get near those chances at the next level. I don't see the upside with him as being a successful NBA PG, there are others I would much rather take a chance with in the second. Anthony Barber, Demetrius Jackson, Caris LeVert, Wade Baldwin. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted March 11, 2016 he's not an efficient shooter. he's got a TS% of .571 so....? also, I don't think he's going to be some starting point guard. He's just my favorite player in the draft. I'd like to have him replace shabazz/Jennings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeHateMe 697 Report post Posted March 11, 2016 he's got a TS% of .571 so....? also, I don't think he's going to be some starting point guard. He's just my favorite player in the draft. I'd like to have him replace shabazz/Jennings. He pretty much is Shabazz without being as good of a 3 point shooter and shorter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites