Bauncey Chillups 288 Report post Posted July 10, 2014 Nope. Smart has looked fantastic on both ends, Elfrid has been a mixed bag When you're 2 of 9 from three out of a total of 14 fgas that's generally the opposite of fantastic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jagsfreak27 44 Report post Posted July 10, 2014 When you're 2 of 9 from three out of a total of 14 fgas that's generally the opposite of fantastic. He was better down the stretch as well. I will say Curry probably outplayed him on the offensive end though, but he gave Payton fits all game. Both were solid, but Payton made a few bonehead decisions with the basketball and was careless with it as well. The bottom line is Seth Curry is the only one of these guys that I would feel comfortable with in the rotation right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jagsfreak27 44 Report post Posted July 10, 2014 Curry deserves a roster spot as a 3rd PG for us. What a great shooter. I prefer him over Marble and Osby to be honest. That stroke alone is worth a roster spot, especially on a roster that has absolutely no wing shooters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Catman 380 Report post Posted July 10, 2014 When you're 2 of 9 from three out of a total of 14 fgas that's generally the opposite of fantastic. Thats what I was seeing. Didn't know the numbers, but Smart looks more like a combo guard who is going to chuck shots up and maybe catch fire or maybe not. Payton is more of what the Magic needed. Smart fits the C's since they have Rondo already. Its just tough to compare Payton and Smart since their game is so different. They can both defend very well. But Smart will be more of a feat or famine scorer and Payton is going to be giving us 12 point 12 assist and 10 rebound games now and then like Rondo can do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
God Hates Otis Smith 153 Report post Posted July 10, 2014 gordon 10-31, 0-8 from 3, 7-15 from the line during the week i don't see how he is going to take away minutes from tobes/harkless/frye/koq probably wont play alot if we're trying to win this year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jagsfreak27 44 Report post Posted July 10, 2014 I think were selling Payton a little short. If Gordon can improve his shot, Payton certainly will have the chance to do so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Catman 380 Report post Posted July 10, 2014 Payton needs some time before he takes over, but lets see him get 40 or so games under his belt and I think we will see a rather refined player for his age and experience. I think about Payton in 2 years and get really excited. Thats scary. I like his ceiling more than Smarts. We just saw what Smart is going to be. Nothing wrong with it at all, but Payton looks like he is going to become a true creator of offense. The thing that really got me was how well Payton ran the Pick and roll. Its just nasty to be that good at it so soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jagsfreak27 44 Report post Posted July 10, 2014 gordon 10-31, 0-8 from 3, 7-15 from the line during the week i don't see how he is going to take away minutes from tobes/harkless/frye/koq probably wont play alot if we're trying to win this year Yeah, it's looking like it's going to be almost a redshirt year for him. You would have to put in a pretty potent offensive group to be able to compensate for his shortcomings on that end and I'm not sure that's in the cards for the Magic this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
God Hates Otis Smith 153 Report post Posted July 10, 2014 Yeah, it's looking like it's going to be almost a redshirt year for him. You would have to put in a pretty potent offensive group to be able to compensate for his shortcomings on that end and I'm not sure that's in the cards for the Magic this season. or you have to fully commit to up tempo offense, there is no way he can play NBA level 3 on offense right now i hope he learns to master pick and roll Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted July 10, 2014 Payton needs some time before he takes over, but lets see him get 40 or so games under his belt and I think we will see a rather refined player for his age and experience. I think about Payton in 2 years and get really excited. Thats scary. I like his ceiling more than Smarts. We just saw what Smart is going to be. Nothing wrong with it at all, but Payton looks like he is going to become a true creator of offense. The thing that really got me was how well Payton ran the Pick and roll. Its just nasty to be that good at it so soon. For me it's how patient he is in the lane. A lot of young guards go 100 mph at the basket or force shots. He probes and looks comfortable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thebuescherman 1 Report post Posted July 10, 2014 I think were selling Payton a little short. If Gordon can improve his shot, Payton certainly will have the chance to do so. I agree. He's played with above average defense, leads the summer league in assists, is a good rebounder, and an efficient (if not high volume) shooter. Smart definitely has a scorer mentality, but he's been inefficient through four games, shooting below 30%. He's probably the better defender of the two, but it's not a huge discrepancy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted July 10, 2014 or you have to fully commit to up tempo offense, there is no way he can play NBA level 3 on offense right now i hope he learns to master pick and roll Fair point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
