YaBoyR 62 Report post Posted April 7, 2012 THis shows how foolish Dwight is. Dwight is a defensive monster and both Stan and Jeff can/could take great advantage of that. Dwight wants to be LeBron/Mello and get all the attention from ESPN. He cares more about that than anything else. THat's his problem. No, he's just tired of the way Stan coaches. Kind of like how an employee can get tired of a boss. Has happened in the NBA before Dwight and will happen in the NBA after Dwight Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Hi-Top 791 Report post Posted April 7, 2012 No, he's just tired of the way Stan coaches. Kind of like how an employee can get tired of a boss. Has happened in the NBA before Dwight and will happen in the NBA after Dwight Look, I realize you think you and Dwight are boys, and you feel the need to defend him at all costs here, but seriously, the only coach in the NBA who might... MIGHT... be a better defensive coach than Stan is Thibodeau. Dwight could be a defensive monster if he trusted Stan and gave it his full focus instead of daydreaming about ESPN clips and attention given to offensive players. The only problem with this team is the moves the GM has made. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franchero MVP 391 Report post Posted April 7, 2012 If you say you're supporting the coach you're going to go out there and give an 110% effort, I can't say I saw anybody doing that. Everyone was missing layups and allowing 3's Exactly. I don't believe that BS excuse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tactical Tomato 10 Report post Posted April 7, 2012 Isiah very well may have helped usher in Amare and Carmelo to the Knicks. Unfortunately, NY would have never had the opportunity to sign them if Donnie Walsh hadn't come in and fixed up that mess of a roster that Thomas left behind. I could KIND OF get behind Thomas being some sort of scout for us but I really dont see him working in that sort of capacity. If we are cleaning house this offseason, we really need to go for Walsh. He knew the Knicks were in a bad spot but he stuck to his guns and put them in a much better position going forward, even though they went ahead and did the Carmelo trade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YaBoyR 62 Report post Posted April 7, 2012 Look, I realize you think you and Dwight are boys, and you feel the need to defend him at all costs here, but seriously, the only coach in the NBA who might... MIGHT... be a better defensive coach than Stan is Thibodeau. Dwight could be a defensive monster if he trusted Stan and gave it his full focus instead of daydreaming about ESPN clips and attention given to offensive players. The only problem with this team is the moves the GM has made. Doc Rivers is a better defensive coach and I would put Doug Collins up there. And what do you mean 'if he trusted stan' has he not won 3 Defensive Player of the Year awards back to back?? I think you guys are giving stan more credit than he deserve, and this has nothing to do with my friendship with dwight. People are crediting Stan with Dwight development as a defensive player when really it was assistant coach Patrick Ewing who challenged Dwight to be a better rebounder and shot blocker, that has nothing to really do with Stan. Matter fact, Howard cleans up the mistakes that happens when there are wrong rotations. Magic need D12 more than they need Van Gundy. Even with another coach Orlando's defense would be the same because Howard still locks down the paint. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
God Hates Otis Smith 153 Report post Posted April 7, 2012 Look, I realize you think you and Dwight are boys, and you feel the need to defend him at all costs here, but seriously, the only coach in the NBA who might... MIGHT... be a better defensive coach than Stan is Thibodeau. Dwight could be a defensive monster if he trusted Stan and gave it his full focus instead of daydreaming about ESPN clips and attention given to offensive players. The only problem with this team is the moves the GM has made. this does not MATTER! Every single coach has an expiration date Y'all can keep tryin to blame dwight, but atleast he kept everything in house, SVG made this issue explode, yet everyone here keeps defending him, it's laughable 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Secretly Space Jesus 670 Report post Posted April 7, 2012 Doc Rivers is a better defensive coach and I would put Doug Collins up there. Then you know absolutely nothing about the Xs and Os of basketball. Thibs was the guy who coached up Boston's defense, and it went from "spectacular" to "pretty good" as soon as he left, even with all their defensive talent. And Collins is a slightly above average defensive coach at best. And what do you mean 'if he trusted stan' has he not won 3 Defensive Player of the Year awards back to back?? And before Stan got to Orlando, Dwight was an average defensive player. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Berto 338 Report post Posted April 7, 2012 Doc Rivers is a better defensive coach and I would put Doug Collins up there. And what do you mean 'if he trusted stan' has he not won 3 Defensive Player of the Year awards back to back?? I think you guys are giving stan more credit than he deserve, and this has nothing to do with my friendship with dwight. People are crediting Stan with Dwight development as a defensive player when really it was assistant coach Patrick Ewing who challenged Dwight to be a better rebounder and shot blocker, that has nothing to really do with Stan. Matter fact, Howard cleans up the mistakes that happens when there are wrong rotations. Magic need D12 more than they need Van Gundy. Even with another coach Orlando's defense would be the same because Howard still locks down the paint. This is one of the downsides of the internet. You can just make stuff up, pass it off as facts, and morons lap it up like it's based in any kind of reality. I don't care that you have non essential, vague text conversations with Dwight. It doesn't make you any less wrong, just more obnoxious and dubious. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marc Acres 3:16 418 Report post Posted April 7, 2012 Doc Rivers is a better defensive coach and I would put Doug Collins up there. And what do you mean 'if he trusted stan' has he not won 3 Defensive Player of the Year awards back to back?? I think you guys are giving stan more credit than he deserve, and this has nothing to do with my friendship with dwight. People are crediting Stan with Dwight development as a defensive player when really it was assistant coach Patrick Ewing who challenged Dwight to be a better rebounder and shot blocker, that has nothing to really do with Stan. Matter fact, Howard cleans up the mistakes that happens when there are wrong rotations. Magic need D12 more than they need Van Gundy. Even with another coach Orlando's defense would be the same because Howard still locks down the paint. I normally wouldn't pick at you ybr but saying Doc is a defensive coach is flat out wrong. Prior to picking up KG and Thibidou his defense here and in Boston were bad. Granted he had bad players but they didn't even play good team d. The only reason he has a ring and is in Boston today is because they lucked out and got all of those guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YaBoyR 62 Report post Posted April 7, 2012 Then you know absolutely nothing about the Xs and Os of basketball. Thibs was the guy who coached up Boston's defense, and it went from "spectacular" to "pretty good" as soon as he left, even with all their defensive talent. And Collins is a slightly above average defensive coach at best. And before Stan got to Orlando, Dwight was an average defensive player. My point is Doc is a better defensive coach than Van Gundy. What makes Stan a great defensive coach to you?? And Dwight had only been in the league 3 years when Stan got there, still hadn't developed. Stan didn't turn Howard into the monster he is on the defensive end and you know that 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan Anderbads 0 Report post Posted April 7, 2012 SVG is terrible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YaBoyR 62 Report post Posted April 7, 2012 This is one of the downsides of the internet. You can just make stuff up, pass it off as facts, and morons lap it up like it's based in any kind of reality. I don't care that you have non essential, vague text conversations with Dwight. It doesn't make you any less wrong, just more obnoxious and dubious. Ok, what did I say that was false??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites