We will have Chris Paul and Carmelo Anthony by 2012

[Natesroom 197]

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22748484/23943102

 

 

The only logical thing to say is that we should expect a Paul/Melo/Howard trio in the future. Otis signed Shard to that huge contract and made payroll adjustments so that 2012 is our big year in free agency. Don't ask me how it will work because I'm not as smart as Otis.

 

Book it. Cook it.

 

Buh bye Miami triforce. Link is gonna slice ya with his MAGIC sword, make sense amirite.

 

 

I will bring this back to crush you or praise you since you so callously said "Book It"

 

So i wrote it down in my black book of bets and i will come collecting when this never happens.

[jec 427]

I wonder what it'd be like to have that go to scoring option finally.

[siradam134 7]

 

sooo evil jec.

[magicLA 57]

@ MagicLA: Why would Philly try to trade their core for Melo if he won't sign an extension there?

 

oh and btw; this whole Melo thing is just another pipedream until further notice; wake me up when he's actually in Orlando for the press conference.

 

 

Philly has been trying to move Iggy and Brand for future cap space and high draft picks. Philly based media outlets regularly discuss that - hence all the VC for Iggy speculation on this board. Iggy and Brand are assets to rebuild their future core of Holiday/Turner/Speights (Young if they could resign him). A trade by Philly to Denver would turn Iggy's contract into that expiring deal while filling seats. Young is a free agent next summer as well so there is no guarantee Denver or Philly would be able to resign him either.

 

Young + Iggy = Melo

 

BTW - If you don't like to talk about theory and speculation then why are you on a sports forum? Sports talk is/has/always will be primarily theory and speculation. If you just want the headlines stay off the discussion forums and tune into your local sports newscast, pretty simple really.

[MagicBucsRays2 10]

Melo is not going to Philly, this is turning out like the CP3 thing where he has a list of teams he's interested in. Any team not on that list likely won't get serious about him if he really doesn't want to go there, and he can leave as a FA.

[BMP 424]

Philly has been trying to move Iggy and Brand for future cap space and high draft picks. Philly based media outlets regularly discuss that - hence all the VC for Iggy speculation on this board. Iggy and Brand are assets to rebuild their future core of Holiday/Turner/Speights (Young if they could resign him). A trade by Philly to Denver would turn Iggy's contract into that expiring deal while filling seats. Young is a free agent next summer as well so there is no guarantee Denver or Philly would be able to resign him either.

 

Young + Iggy = Melo

 

BTW - If you don't like to talk about theory and speculation then why are you on a sports forum? Sports talk is/has/always will be primarily theory and speculation. If you just want the headlines stay off the discussion forums and tune into your local sports newscast, pretty simple really.

 

 

Yes, but why would Philly trade Iggy for a Carmelo rental?

[BMP 424]

I had no idea that you could just a basketball team based on the quantity of arbitrarily distributed greater than symbols allotted.

 

You learn something new every day.

 

With that being said, I now feel we were cheated in '95. I'm quite positive we had more greater than signs than the Rockets did.

[Darthmagic 0]

What about three way trade with Golden State?

 

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2bkcpkc

 

Denver gets:

Monta Ellis

Andris Bienderis

Brendan Wright

Vladimir Radmanovic

 

Orlando Gets

Carmelo Anthony

Chris Anderson

 

Golden State gets

Vince Carter

JR Smith

Marcin Gortat

 

Why for Denver: They get back bonified talent for Melo in the form of Monta, genuine starting caliber center in Biendris, and a young piece. Plus they shed the long term contract of Anderson.

 

Why for Orlando: Get Melo. Nuff said

 

Why for Golden State?: They get a talented 2 guard in JR Smith who can stroke it from three, shed the contract of Beindris while getting a cheaper replacement and gets a valuable expiring contract and veteran in V.C.

 

Orlando:

 

PG-Jameer/Duhon/J-Will

SG-Pietrus/Redick

SF-Melo/Q-Rich

PF-Rashard/Ryan/Bass

C-Dwight/Anderson

 

:headbang:

[magicLA 57]

Melo is not going to Philly, this is turning out like the CP3 thing where he has a list of teams he's interested in. Any team not on that list likely won't get serious about him if he really doesn't want to go there, and he can leave as a FA.

 

What makes you think he has a choice...It is entirely different than the CP3 scenario as Paul had 2 years left on his deal, while Melo expires this year and he has already made it pretty clear he is leaving by not taking 3yr @ $21M a year. Plus Denver just saw what happened to Cleveland so there is no way they just let him go for nothing. Denver is going to take their best offer.

 

For Philly its about filling seats for a year and getting Anthony's expiring contract. There are teams looking for expiring deals to clear cap space; Philly is one of them and they've been trying to unload Iggy and Brand in the process. Brand is very unlikely to be moved because of his contract to player value ratio. Iguodala is Philly's best shot at clearing cap space but they are not going to do it unless they get a good quality expiring or a very good young player on a value contract in return. In the expiring contract scenario, not all expirings are equal: for most the player value is low like NY's Eddy Curry - some like VC bring decent basketball value and some off court $ value (jerseys, seats etc) with it...Carmelo's is the most valuable kind as it does both - very well.

 

The chances that Philly could resign either Melo or Thad Young are both low as both are gonna draw high salaries next summer. So loosing Young isn't really a factor as they are more than likely going to loose him anyhow. This will be Young's first chance at money so unless he has a loyalty streak in him, it is most likely he goes to the highest bidder anyhow.

• also there's this leverage Denver has on Anthony -
  Larry Coons twitter: ...called an extend-and-trade. But I think likelihood of Nugs trading him are low. They have upper hand -- deal on the table ....under current CBA. Melo might not be able to get nearly that much under next CBA.@j_randle9

[magicLA 57]

Yes, but why would Philly trade Iggy for a Carmelo rental?

 

 

 

MagicBucsRays2, on 18 August 2010 - 08:35 AM, said:

 

Melo is not going to Philly, this is turning out like the CP3 thing where he has a list of teams he's interested in. Any team not on that list likely won't get serious about him if he really doesn't want to go there, and he can leave as a FA.

 

What makes you think he has a choice...It is entirely different than the CP3 scenario as Paul had 2 years left on his deal, while Melo expires this year and he has already made it pretty clear he is leaving by not taking 3yr @ $21M a year. Plus Denver just saw what happened to Cleveland so there is no way they just let him go for nothing. Denver is going to take their best offer.

 

For Philly its about filling seats for a year and getting Anthony's expiring contract. There are teams looking for expiring deals to clear cap space; Philly is one of them and they've been trying to unload Iggy and Brand in the process. Brand is very unlikely to be moved because of his contract to player value ratio. Iguodala is Philly's best shot at clearing cap space but they are not going to do it unless they get a good quality expiring or a very good young player on a value contract in return. In the expiring contract scenario, not all expirings are equal: for most the player value is low like NY's Eddy Curry - some like VC bring decent basketball value and some off court $ value (jerseys, seats etc) with it...Carmelo's is the most valuable kind as it does both - very well.

 

The chances that Philly could resign either Melo or Thad Young are both low as both are gonna draw high salaries next summer. So loosing Young isn't really a factor as they are more than likely going to loose him anyhow. This will be Young's first chance at money so unless he has a loyalty streak in him, it is most likely he goes to the highest bidder anyhow.

• also there's this leverage Denver has on Anthony -
  Larry Coons twitter: ...called an extend-and-trade. But I think likelihood of Nugs trading him are low. They have upper hand -- deal on the table ....under current CBA. Melo might not be able to get nearly that much under next CBA.@j_randle9

[BMP 424]

What makes you think he has a choice...It is entirely different than the CP3 scenario as Paul had 2 years left on his deal, while Melo expires this year and he has already made it pretty clear he is leaving by not taking 3yr @ $21M a year. Plus Denver just saw what happened to Cleveland so there is no way they just let him go for nothing. Denver is going to take their best offer.

 

For Philly its about filling seats for a year and getting Anthony's expiring contract. There are teams looking for expiring deals to clear cap space; Philly is one of them and they've been trying to unload Iggy and Brand in the process. Brand is very unlikely to be moved because of his contract to player value ratio. Iguodala is Philly's best shot at clearing cap space but they are not going to do it unless they get a good quality expiring or a very good young player on a value contract in return. In the expiring contract scenario, not all expirings are equal: for most the player value is low like NY's Eddy Curry - some like VC bring decent basketball value and some off court $ value (jerseys, seats etc) with it...Carmelo's is the most valuable kind as it does both - very well.

 

The chances that Philly could resign either Melo or Thad Young are both low as both are gonna draw high salaries next summer. So loosing Young isn't really a factor as they are more than likely going to loose him anyhow. This will be Young's first chance at money so unless he has a loyalty streak in him, it is most likely he goes to the highest bidder anyhow.

• also there's this leverage Denver has on Anthony -
  Larry Coons twitter: ...called an extend-and-trade. But I think likelihood of Nugs trading him are low. They have upper hand -- deal on the table ....under current CBA. Melo might not be able to get nearly that much under next CBA.@j_randle9

 

 

Denver would not trade Melo to take on both Brand's and Iggy's contract. That's not what rebuilding teams do, and taking on even more salary just for the sake of playing in the playoffs isn't one bit smart.

[magicLA 57]

Denver would not trade Melo to take on both Brand's and Iggy's contract. That's not what rebuilding teams do, and taking on even more salary just for the sake of playing in the playoffs isn't one bit smart.

 

no not Brand - the trade would be Iggy and Young for Melo, it works money wise