BlueAndWhiteIgnite 0 Report post Posted July 15, 2010 Great move by the Magic bringing JJ back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMP 424 Report post Posted July 15, 2010 quote: Originally posted by BlueAndWhiteIgnite: Great move by the Magic bringing JJ back. The Magic have not matched JJ's offer yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMP 424 Report post Posted July 15, 2010 quote: Originally posted by Jareth Cutestory: SOMEONE HAS TO BE TRADED. SOMEONE HAS TO. IF NOT FOR PAYROLL THEN FOR THE FRIGGIN ROTATION MESS SVG IS GOING TO HAVE. It's gonna be great once Barnes signs for the BAE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magicLA 57 Report post Posted July 15, 2010 quote: Originally posted by ButterMilkPancakes: Except that we will have less than $15 mil in pay roll by the time Dwight becomes a free agent, unless he decides to opt-out, but even then we will have enough money and I'm sure RDV/Otis wouldn't even think twice about offering him a max deal even if it meant going into the luxury tax for it. The key is not what our payroll will be the year he can opt out but the payroll flexibility we have to make upgrades the season before the summer he can opt out. as it stands w/out trades 2010/2011: $93M + around $20M in penalty) = $113 Million payroll + 2 low roster spots to fill 2011/2012: $95M + around $25M in penalty) *team opt VC ($18M) and Ryan ($2M) *player opt Pietrus ($5M) **This is the last season with Dwight under contract. The cap is $59M and tax $70M this year so in the 11/12 we will be over the cap and tax penalty. So we will have the MLE and maybe the BAE to fill possibly 3-5 positions in hopes of staying competitive enough for Dwight to stay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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BMP 424 Report post Posted July 15, 2010 quote: Originally posted by ezzzp: quote: Originally posted by ButterMilkPancakes: Except that we will have less than $15 mil in pay roll by the time Dwight becomes a free agent, unless he decides to opt-out, but even then we will have enough money and I'm sure RDV/Otis wouldn't even think twice about offering him a max deal even if it meant going into the luxury tax for it. The key is not what our payroll will be the year he can opt out but the payroll flexibility we have to make upgrades the season before the summer he can opt out. as it stands w/out trades 2010/2011: $93M + around $20M in penalty) = $113 Million payroll + 2 low roster spots to fill 2011/2012: $95M + around $25M in penalty) *team opt VC ($18M) and Ryan ($2M) *player opt Pietrus ($5M) **This is the last season with Dwight under contract. The cap is $59M and tax $70M this year so in the 11/12 we will be over the cap and tax penalty. So we will have the MLE and maybe the BAE to fill possibly 3-5 positions in hopes of staying competitive enough for Dwight to stay. The only way we'll be able to make any significant moves will be through trades anyways, it's not like being barely below the luxury tax or a million or two over it will make it easier for us to get an impact player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drain-O 369 Report post Posted July 15, 2010 quote: Originally posted by ezzzp: quote: Originally posted by ButterMilkPancakes: Except that we will have less than $15 mil in pay roll by the time Dwight becomes a free agent, unless he decides to opt-out, but even then we will have enough money and I'm sure RDV/Otis wouldn't even think twice about offering him a max deal even if it meant going into the luxury tax for it. The key is not what our payroll will be the year he can opt out but the payroll flexibility we have to make upgrades the season before the summer he can opt out. as it stands w/out trades 2010/2011: $93M + around $20M in penalty) = $113 Million payroll + 2 low roster spots to fill 2011/2012: $95M + around $25M in penalty) *team opt VC ($18M) and Ryan ($2M) *player opt Pietrus ($5M) **This is the last season with Dwight under contract. The cap is $59M and tax $70M this year so in the 11/12 we will be over the cap and tax penalty. So we will have the MLE and maybe the BAE to fill possibly 3-5 positions in hopes of staying competitive enough for Dwight to stay. Having all that cap space sure hurt Miami this summer. I bet they wish they upgraded last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jareth Cutestory 678 Report post Posted July 15, 2010 codebase="http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=8,0,0,0" height="385" width="480" > value="transparent" > value="never" > name="movie" /> /> /> pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowScriptAccess="never" height="385" width="480" src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M&hl=en_US&fs=1" /> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magicLA 57 Report post Posted July 15, 2010 quote: Originally posted by ButterMilkPancakes: quote: Originally posted by ezzzp: quote: Originally posted by ButterMilkPancakes: Except that we will have less than $15 mil in pay roll by the time Dwight becomes a free agent, unless he decides to opt-out, but even then we will have enough money and I'm sure RDV/Otis wouldn't even think twice about offering him a max deal even if it meant going into the luxury tax for it. The key is not what our payroll will be the year he can opt out but the payroll flexibility we have to make upgrades the season before the summer he can opt out. as it stands w/out trades 2010/2011: $93M + around $20M in penalty) = $113 Million payroll + 2 low roster spots to fill 2011/2012: $95M + around $25M in penalty) *team opt VC ($18M) and Ryan ($2M) *player opt Pietrus ($5M) **This is the last season with Dwight under contract. The cap is $59M and tax $70M this year so in the 11/12 we will be over the cap and tax penalty. So we will have the MLE and maybe the BAE to fill possibly 3-5 positions in hopes of staying competitive enough for Dwight to stay. The only way we'll be able to make any significant moves will be through trades anyways, it's not like being barely below the luxury tax or a million or two over it will make it easier for us to get an impact player. yep your right. The Carter contract has to be traded no matter what or we lose $18M worth of player upgrades. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMP 424 Report post Posted July 15, 2010 quote: Originally posted by ezzzp: quote: Originally posted by ButterMilkPancakes: quote: Originally posted by ezzzp: quote: Originally posted by ButterMilkPancakes: Except that we will have less than $15 mil in pay roll by the time Dwight becomes a free agent, unless he decides to opt-out, but even then we will have enough money and I'm sure RDV/Otis wouldn't even think twice about offering him a max deal even if it meant going into the luxury tax for it. The key is not what our payroll will be the year he can opt out but the payroll flexibility we have to make upgrades the season before the summer he can opt out. as it stands w/out trades 2010/2011: $93M + around $20M in penalty) = $113 Million payroll + 2 low roster spots to fill 2011/2012: $95M + around $25M in penalty) *team opt VC ($18M) and Ryan ($2M) *player opt Pietrus ($5M) **This is the last season with Dwight under contract. The cap is $59M and tax $70M this year so in the 11/12 we will be over the cap and tax penalty. So we will have the MLE and maybe the BAE to fill possibly 3-5 positions in hopes of staying competitive enough for Dwight to stay. The only way we'll be able to make any significant moves will be through trades anyways, it's not like being barely below the luxury tax or a million or two over it will make it easier for us to get an impact player. yep your right. The Carter contract has to be traded no matter what or we lose $18M worth of player upgrades. Absolutely. Carter and Gortat are big trade pieces with big contracts. Lewis is definitely hard to move, but his HUGE expiring will also be another big trade piece. I think at this point, it's not so much about how much we are deep in tax (well, it is somewhat for the guy paying it), but signing solid players that are easy to move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharp/7/shooter 23 Report post Posted July 15, 2010 YESSS, keeping the username babeeee codebase="http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=8,0,0,0" height="505" width="640" > value="transparent" > value="never" > name="movie" /> /> /> pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowScriptAccess="never" height="505" width="640" src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwQbPgouUYo&hl=en_US&fs=1?color1=0x2b405b&color2=0x6b8ab6&hd=1&autoplay=1" /> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
otis_smith 15 Report post Posted July 15, 2010 Jareth, I'm glad you posted again. I was getting bored Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
