Howard Suspended for Game 6

[Svanxx 30]

Only in the NBA can a glancing blow get you suspended and a punch to the face can get you the hero's treatment.

 

David Stern better not come to Orlando for the rest of the postseason and that includes the finals.

[Loran 0]

The NBA has been calling every girly contact to boost scoring and make the Lebrons/Kobe/Wade look as good as Jordan when in reality they still don't compare. Don't understand the refs logic of seeing Dalembert's obvious fouling and not call anything.

 

I'm actually glad Howard sent a message to Dalembert there since the refs fail to make the proper call.

 

It's kind of Dwight's fault though, for not dunking on Dalembert like he did on Ratliff a few times.

[and1mixtape 0]

lol chris webber is such a hater he's not even hiding it now.

[duelingdragons 0]

I'm recalling Shaq freaking out and taking wild swings @ Chicago a few years ago.. anyone else remember this?

 

This is the first time Dwight has ever been disciplined by the NBA for on-court conduct, am I right? (not talking about techs obv.)

[Natmayo 0]

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Originally posted by duelingdragons:

I'm recalling Shaq freaking out and taking wild swings @ Chicago a few years ago.. anyone else remember this?

 

This is the first time Dwight has ever been disciplined by the NBA for on-court conduct, am I right? (not talking about techs obv.)

 

You're right about the Chicago incident. I remember that as well. My statement wasn't alluding to the fact that Shaq is squeaky clean, as much as he's done a great job over the years to keep it at a minimum and Dwight needs to emulate that.

 

He delibritely threw an elbow above the shoulders. The refs shouldn't have to make judgement calls on the floor if Dwight is a good guy or not. We have all watched games where Dwight gets testy and throws some elbows or pushes guys when they get physical with him.

 

Dwight doesn't have a track record of this. But no matter if hes a saint or a sinner, the suspension is warranted. Lets just hope that with this, he learns that he cannot retaliate like he did.

[TheNameIsOrlando 310]

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Originally posted by Natmayo:

quote:

Originally posted by duelingdragons:

I'm recalling Shaq freaking out and taking wild swings @ Chicago a few years ago.. anyone else remember this?

 

This is the first time Dwight has ever been disciplined by the NBA for on-court conduct, am I right? (not talking about techs obv.)

 

You're right about the Chicago incident. I remember that as well. My statement wasn't alluding to the fact that Shaq is squeaky clean, as much as he's done a great job over the years to keep it at a minimum and Dwight needs to emulate that.

 

He delibritely threw an elbow above the shoulders. The refs shouldn't have to make judgement calls on the floor if Dwight is a good guy or not. We have all watched games where Dwight gets testy and throws some elbows or pushes guys when they get physical with him.

 

Dwight doesn't have a track record of this. But no matter if hes a saint or a sinner, the suspension is warranted. Lets just hope that with this, he learns that he cannot retaliate like he did.

 

New to the site...but ive been peeping around all year...

 

I agree dwight deserved what he got but your shaq argument holds nothing...shaq has gotten into plenty of tussles.

And just because dwight finally mans up for once doesnt mean he isnt following in the same footsteps as shaq by being able to control himself

[Natmayo 0]

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Originally posted by TheNameIsOrlando:

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Originally posted by Natmayo:

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Originally posted by duelingdragons:

I'm recalling Shaq freaking out and taking wild swings @ Chicago a few years ago.. anyone else remember this?

 

This is the first time Dwight has ever been disciplined by the NBA for on-court conduct, am I right? (not talking about techs obv.)

 

You're right about the Chicago incident. I remember that as well. My statement wasn't alluding to the fact that Shaq is squeaky clean, as much as he's done a great job over the years to keep it at a minimum and Dwight needs to emulate that.

 

He delibritely threw an elbow above the shoulders. The refs shouldn't have to make judgement calls on the floor if Dwight is a good guy or not. We have all watched games where Dwight gets testy and throws some elbows or pushes guys when they get physical with him.

 

Dwight doesn't have a track record of this. But no matter if hes a saint or a sinner, the suspension is warranted. Lets just hope that with this, he learns that he cannot retaliate like he did.

 

New to the site...but ive been peeping around all year...

 

I agree dwight deserved what he got but your shaq argument holds nothing...shaq has gotten into plenty of tussles.

And just because dwight finally mans up for once doesnt mean he isnt following in the same footsteps as shaq by being able to control himself

 

"Manning up" doesnt mean you throw an elbow to the head of an opponant. And the rules are far different than in years past, where the Knicks and Heat and others have had full scale brawls and its been passed over.

 

Shaq has had had some altercations, but for the most part, hes had to deal with the same things that dominate big men have had to deal with and has dealt with it, just like Howard needs to do.

 

For the rest of his career, Dwight has to hold his temper as lesser bigs will grab and hold and push him, and he cant do what he did and achieve any success.

 

We may step up and win game 6. But Dwight has to know that this isnt the regular season and the playoffs bring extra pressure and results.

 

I dont believe we will lose this series, but if we do, his suspension will be one of the main reasons we are unsuccessful.

[Luke_FfS 251]

Seems like two different themes are mixed up in this thread...

 

Point one: Under current NBA rules, Dwight deserves the suspension.

There's no "media hype" or "Orlando curse" excuse.

No matter how much he was frustrated for all the fouls, grabbing, mauling or whatever else, he's broken a clear rule, and he's to pay the bill.

 

I'm pretty confident he knows he's made a stupid mistake, and he'll surely learn from that.

 

 

Point two: how the same plays, or other similar situations, ends with a different outcome. IMO, it's laughable the way certain teams or players are sometimes helped, mostly because the NBA is offering a bad image of their own league.

 

 

But remember that Orlando is not the scapegoat, we're not alone there, there're at least 25 other teams and 95% of the players that could lament the same thing.

 

It's not a consolation, neither for us or our players, but we could only accept it and hope that they'll come back stronger.

[TheNameIsOrlando 310]

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Originally posted by Natmayo:

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Originally posted by TheNameIsOrlando:

quote:

Originally posted by Natmayo:

quote:

Originally posted by duelingdragons:

I'm recalling Shaq freaking out and taking wild swings @ Chicago a few years ago.. anyone else remember this?

 

This is the first time Dwight has ever been disciplined by the NBA for on-court conduct, am I right? (not talking about techs obv.)

 

You're right about the Chicago incident. I remember that as well. My statement wasn't alluding to the fact that Shaq is squeaky clean, as much as he's done a great job over the years to keep it at a minimum and Dwight needs to emulate that.

 

He delibritely threw an elbow above the shoulders. The refs shouldn't have to make judgement calls on the floor if Dwight is a good guy or not. We have all watched games where Dwight gets testy and throws some elbows or pushes guys when they get physical with him.

 

Dwight doesn't have a track record of this. But no matter if hes a saint or a sinner, the suspension is warranted. Lets just hope that with this, he learns that he cannot retaliate like he did.

 

New to the site...but ive been peeping around all year...

 

I agree dwight deserved what he got but your shaq argument holds nothing...shaq has gotten into plenty of tussles.

And just because dwight finally mans up for once doesnt mean he isnt following in the same footsteps as shaq by being able to control himself

 

"Manning up" doesnt mean you throw an elbow to the head of an opponant. And the rules are far different than in years past, where the Knicks and Heat and others have had full scale brawls and its been passed over.

 

Shaq has had had some altercations, but for the most part, hes had to deal with the same things that dominate big men have had to deal with and has dealt with it, just like Howard needs to do.

 

For the rest of his career, Dwight has to hold his temper as lesser bigs will grab and hold and push him, and he cant do what he did and achieve any success.

 

We may step up and win game 6. But Dwight has to know that this isnt the regular season and the playoffs bring extra pressure and results.

 

I dont believe we will lose this series, but if we do, his suspension will be one of the main reasons we are unsuccessful.

 

Like i said previously i agree fully dwight was wrong and received the appropriate repercussions.

My point was that shaq hasnt done any a better job than dwight has...

Heres five fights that i found with minimal searching from shaq...his ability to hold his temper is no better

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7T7MKpHDf8

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...ext_from=PL&index=18

 

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/..._from_www_yawez_com/

 

http://dailymotion.virgilio.it...fight_sport?from=rss

 

sorry dont know how to embed or know if we are allowed to

[Natmayo 0]

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Originally posted by TheNameIsOrlando:

quote:

Originally posted by Natmayo:

quote:

Originally posted by TheNameIsOrlando:

quote:

Originally posted by Natmayo:

quote:

Originally posted by duelingdragons:

I'm recalling Shaq freaking out and taking wild swings @ Chicago a few years ago.. anyone else remember this?

 

This is the first time Dwight has ever been disciplined by the NBA for on-court conduct, am I right? (not talking about techs obv.)

 

You're right about the Chicago incident. I remember that as well. My statement wasn't alluding to the fact that Shaq is squeaky clean, as much as he's done a great job over the years to keep it at a minimum and Dwight needs to emulate that.

 

He delibritely threw an elbow above the shoulders. The refs shouldn't have to make judgement calls on the floor if Dwight is a good guy or not. We have all watched games where Dwight gets testy and throws some elbows or pushes guys when they get physical with him.

 

Dwight doesn't have a track record of this. But no matter if hes a saint or a sinner, the suspension is warranted. Lets just hope that with this, he learns that he cannot retaliate like he did.

 

New to the site...but ive been peeping around all year...

 

I agree dwight deserved what he got but your shaq argument holds nothing...shaq has gotten into plenty of tussles.

And just because dwight finally mans up for once doesnt mean he isnt following in the same footsteps as shaq by being able to control himself

 

"Manning up" doesnt mean you throw an elbow to the head of an opponant. And the rules are far different than in years past, where the Knicks and Heat and others have had full scale brawls and its been passed over.

 

Shaq has had had some altercations, but for the most part, hes had to deal with the same things that dominate big men have had to deal with and has dealt with it, just like Howard needs to do.

 

For the rest of his career, Dwight has to hold his temper as lesser bigs will grab and hold and push him, and he cant do what he did and achieve any success.

 

We may step up and win game 6. But Dwight has to know that this isnt the regular season and the playoffs bring extra pressure and results.

 

I dont believe we will lose this series, but if we do, his suspension will be one of the main reasons we are unsuccessful.

 

Like i said previously i agree fully dwight was wrong and received the appropriate repercussions.

My point was that shaq hasnt done any a better job than dwight has...

Heres five fights that i found with minimal searching from shaq...his ability to hold his temper is no better

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7T7MKpHDf8

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...ext_from=PL&index=18

 

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/..._from_www_yawez_com/

 

http://dailymotion.virgilio.it...fight_sport?from=rss

 

sorry dont know how to embed or know if we are allowed to

 

Ill give you the first clip, as this was the Chicago game that we brought up earlier.

 

The second clip was Parker running into O'Neal and there was absolutely no more contact than that. Shaq didnt touch his head or even take a swipe at him, clearly going for the ball and Parker basically ran into him.

 

The third instance you brought had some pushing and shoving but not one instance where Shaq swung or made contact with his head.

 

Same with the fourth clip, some words and some pushing.

 

Look, welcome to the boards. Im not gonna go all night about Shaq vs. D12. The rules were a bit different than they are now on a lot of past skirmishes.

 

But bottom line, besides his altercation with Miller, either it was a hard foul or really nothing at all. You'll be hard pressed to find many when he blatently went for the head when it wasn't part of the play.

 

I just want Dwight there for us in the game. It was warranted and lets all hope it doesn't happen again. Dwights good people from what we have heard and his actions speak that.

 

Welcome again, always glad to welcome intelligent discussions.

[TheNameIsOrlando 310]

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Originally posted by Natmayo:

quote:

Originally posted by TheNameIsOrlando:

quote:

Originally posted by Natmayo:

quote:

Originally posted by TheNameIsOrlando:

quote:

Originally posted by Natmayo:

quote:

Originally posted by duelingdragons:

I'm recalling Shaq freaking out and taking wild swings @ Chicago a few years ago.. anyone else remember this?

 

This is the first time Dwight has ever been disciplined by the NBA for on-court conduct, am I right? (not talking about techs obv.)

 

You're right about the Chicago incident. I remember that as well. My statement wasn't alluding to the fact that Shaq is squeaky clean, as much as he's done a great job over the years to keep it at a minimum and Dwight needs to emulate that.

 

He delibritely threw an elbow above the shoulders. The refs shouldn't have to make judgement calls on the floor if Dwight is a good guy or not. We have all watched games where Dwight gets testy and throws some elbows or pushes guys when they get physical with him.

 

Dwight doesn't have a track record of this. But no matter if hes a saint or a sinner, the suspension is warranted. Lets just hope that with this, he learns that he cannot retaliate like he did.

 

New to the site...but ive been peeping around all year...

 

I agree dwight deserved what he got but your shaq argument holds nothing...shaq has gotten into plenty of tussles.

And just because dwight finally mans up for once doesnt mean he isnt following in the same footsteps as shaq by being able to control himself

 

"Manning up" doesnt mean you throw an elbow to the head of an opponant. And the rules are far different than in years past, where the Knicks and Heat and others have had full scale brawls and its been passed over.

 

Shaq has had had some altercations, but for the most part, hes had to deal with the same things that dominate big men have had to deal with and has dealt with it, just like Howard needs to do.

 

For the rest of his career, Dwight has to hold his temper as lesser bigs will grab and hold and push him, and he cant do what he did and achieve any success.

 

We may step up and win game 6. But Dwight has to know that this isnt the regular season and the playoffs bring extra pressure and results.

 

I dont believe we will lose this series, but if we do, his suspension will be one of the main reasons we are unsuccessful.

 

Like i said previously i agree fully dwight was wrong and received the appropriate repercussions.

My point was that shaq hasnt done any a better job than dwight has...

Heres five fights that i found with minimal searching from shaq...his ability to hold his temper is no better

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7T7MKpHDf8

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...ext_from=PL&index=18

 

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/..._from_www_yawez_com/

 

http://dailymotion.virgilio.it...fight_sport?from=rss

 

sorry dont know how to embed or know if we are allowed to

 

Ill give you the first clip, as this was the Chicago game that we brought up earlier.

 

The second clip was Parker running into O'Neal and there was absolutely no more contact than that. Shaq didnt touch his head or even take a swipe at him, clearly going for the ball and Parker basically ran into him.

 

The third instance you brought had some pushing and shoving but not one instance where Shaq swung or made contact with his head.

 

Same with the fourth clip, some words and some pushing.

 

Look, welcome to the boards. Im not gonna go all night about Shaq vs. D12. The rules were a bit different than they are now on a lot of past skirmishes.

 

But bottom line, besides his altercation with Miller, either it was a hard foul or really nothing at all. You'll be hard pressed to find many when he blatently went for the head when it wasn't part of the play.

 

I just want Dwight there for us in the game. It was warranted and lets all hope it doesn't happen again. Dwights good people from what we have heard and his actions speak that.

 

Welcome again, always glad to welcome intelligent discussions.

 

my point wasnt about the severity of the fighting it was the fact that shaq makes bad decisions as well

but lets just agree to disagree

 

anybody just see the flagrant 1 foul they just called on wade?

Seems to me the refs dont even know the rules haha

[Natmayo 0]

quote:

Originally posted by TheNameIsOrlando:

quote:

Originally posted by Natmayo:

quote:

Originally posted by TheNameIsOrlando:

quote:

Originally posted by Natmayo:

quote:

Originally posted by TheNameIsOrlando:

quote:

Originally posted by Natmayo:

quote:

Originally posted by duelingdragons:

I'm recalling Shaq freaking out and taking wild swings @ Chicago a few years ago.. anyone else remember this?

 

This is the first time Dwight has ever been disciplined by the NBA for on-court conduct, am I right? (not talking about techs obv.)

 

You're right about the Chicago incident. I remember that as well. My statement wasn't alluding to the fact that Shaq is squeaky clean, as much as he's done a great job over the years to keep it at a minimum and Dwight needs to emulate that.

 

He delibritely threw an elbow above the shoulders. The refs shouldn't have to make judgement calls on the floor if Dwight is a good guy or not. We have all watched games where Dwight gets testy and throws some elbows or pushes guys when they get physical with him.

 

Dwight doesn't have a track record of this. But no matter if hes a saint or a sinner, the suspension is warranted. Lets just hope that with this, he learns that he cannot retaliate like he did.

 

New to the site...but ive been peeping around all year...

 

I agree dwight deserved what he got but your shaq argument holds nothing...shaq has gotten into plenty of tussles.

And just because dwight finally mans up for once doesnt mean he isnt following in the same footsteps as shaq by being able to control himself

 

"Manning up" doesnt mean you throw an elbow to the head of an opponant. And the rules are far different than in years past, where the Knicks and Heat and others have had full scale brawls and its been passed over.

 

Shaq has had had some altercations, but for the most part, hes had to deal with the same things that dominate big men have had to deal with and has dealt with it, just like Howard needs to do.

 

For the rest of his career, Dwight has to hold his temper as lesser bigs will grab and hold and push him, and he cant do what he did and achieve any success.

 

We may step up and win game 6. But Dwight has to know that this isnt the regular season and the playoffs bring extra pressure and results.

 

I dont believe we will lose this series, but if we do, his suspension will be one of the main reasons we are unsuccessful.

 

Like i said previously i agree fully dwight was wrong and received the appropriate repercussions.

My point was that shaq hasnt done any a better job than dwight has...

Heres five fights that i found with minimal searching from shaq...his ability to hold his temper is no better

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7T7MKpHDf8

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...ext_from=PL&index=18

 

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/..._from_www_yawez_com/

 

http://dailymotion.virgilio.it...fight_sport?from=rss

 

sorry dont know how to embed or know if we are allowed to

 

Ill give you the first clip, as this was the Chicago game that we brought up earlier.

 

The second clip was Parker running into O'Neal and there was absolutely no more contact than that. Shaq didnt touch his head or even take a swipe at him, clearly going for the ball and Parker basically ran into him.

 

The third instance you brought had some pushing and shoving but not one instance where Shaq swung or made contact with his head.

 

Same with the fourth clip, some words and some pushing.

 

Look, welcome to the boards. Im not gonna go all night about Shaq vs. D12. The rules were a bit different than they are now on a lot of past skirmishes.

 

But bottom line, besides his altercation with Miller, either it was a hard foul or really nothing at all. You'll be hard pressed to find many when he blatently went for the head when it wasn't part of the play.

 

I just want Dwight there for us in the game. It was warranted and lets all hope it doesn't happen again. Dwights good people from what we have heard and his actions speak that.

 

Welcome again, always glad to welcome intelligent discussions.

 

my point wasnt about the severity of the fighting it was the fact that shaq makes bad decisions as well

but lets just agree to disagree

 

anybody just see the flagrant 1 foul they just called on wade?

Seems to me the refs dont even know the rules haha

 

Agreed. Wade clearly went for the block and all this flagrant noise has the refs kinda punchy.