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WEE would be just as realistic as this Stern ****.

That's pretty ignorant of you.

Ugh. Although would be funny to see them be bottom feeders. They haven't been any good since they had to begin actually playing more than 2 games a year.

Fixed it for you. :) The most important day in recent Gator history was getting rid of Addazio. I would have taken a year of not signing any recruits and only taking non-scholarship walk-ons to get rid of him.

You need to add a little bit more of WarriorsFan to this persona Jareth. You don't quite have it right yet. I do like the bit of mean streak with this one though. It's like a B+ right now.

Can't wait to get him back. We have some injured reserve slots open for him.

Look in a mirror Broseph.

Jareth trying to spice up the lockout.

Wish the US could learn from its mistakes like you guys did. Our philosophy: It's not working, but it's not because it's the wrong medicine, but because the dose wasn't high enough. Increase dose of more of the same.

One realizes how unimportant "fandom" is when it is gone. The Bucs killed my fandom this season with the television blackouts. It used to be that the three and a half hours on Sunday were sacred, but then to no choice of my own, I was unable to watch. I had a lot of fun doing other things with the wife and when there were non-blacked out games, they all of a sudden went from the top of my priority to list towards the bottom.

Obviously football is a descriptive name for a game where you carry a ball while running.

Thought I would bump my post because a lot of what was discussed since it was pertinent.

Shaq was forced to become a good passer because of the shortened NBA 3 point line. Doubling was much faster and easier, so he was forced to adapt.

Didn't read all of the last 10 pages, but here are my 2 cents. I think of the major issues with "Gay marriage" is that marriage in the Christian world is supposed to be a covenant between the two people getting married before God. Therefore, same sex marriages cannot be in Christianity. IMO, this is the thought process that bleeds into discussions on the secular/legal concept of marriage. The covenant concept bleeds into the "legal" marriage also, but really a "legal" marriage is nothing more than a contract that binds two peoples assets and future assets into one pool as well as giving the spouse legal priority (for example in determining medical treatments). This allows for certain benefits and conveniences in our society. There is no God or covenant involved here. If people want to have ceremonies that are relevant to them outside of this, as occurs now with religious ceremonies, that's their prerogative. "Gay marriage" should or could be renamed as "gay asset combining" or something of that nature. I don't see why if two people of opposite genders want to combine assets and prioritize decisions legally, why two people of the same sex can't combine assets and prioritize decisions legally. They just want LEGAL rights like straight people. Religion has no more place in this discussion anymore than it does in any other state decision.

The vast majority of players aren't going overseas, so I don't see that happening, but it would be REALLY interesting is say, 20 of the top 30 players went and played overseas and signed multiyear deals. The NBA is a star driven league, I would be very interested in seeing how they would react to their starts not playing for them for a while, or at least put the real fear of it in them.

Would be great for Dwight in a worldwide market. He is already so huge, it would propel him to epic proportions. Also, playing a slightly different game would enhance skills that he is not forced to use as much and round him out. Barring injury, I don't see how this could be negative. I hope more and more players go play oversees and tell the owners and Stern to go f*** themselves. It would be amazing for the game overall if the NBA was forced into competition as it would definitely loosen Stern's grip.

:chairshot: :chairshot: :chairshot: :chairshot: :chairshot: :chairshot: :chairshot: :chairshot: :chairshot: Where is the minimum post rule.

Since the only thing entertaining for a while will be Gilbert, I figured I would start a thread where we can enjoy and discuss his tweets. They are awesome and at this moment Otis looks like a genius for trading for Gilbert, imo. Evidently he is still going to be working out at RDV. :happypuppy:

Thanks for you reply and perspective. It seems to me that your perspective regarding Islam is still very Christo-centric. I am not an Islam expert, but I do have a fair amount of experience with it and have had quite a bit of faith based discussion with regard to differences and similarities with it and Christianity. My wife is an Islam scholar and actually specializes in the expression of Islam in popular culture contrasting with real fundaments and practices of the religion. I see some similarities with her work and what you are expressing as well. I find it hard to explain my point, but what I am trying to say is: There is a big difference with looking at the similarities and differences of the religious base from a Christian starting point or from an Islamic starting point. For example, I do not think they would acknowledge the difference of following the God of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob from God of Abraham. Although there is the delineation with Ishmael's separation from Abraham, the prophetic history of Islam does not separate from the Hebrew history at that point, frankly, I don't think it separates anywhere at all. Isaac, Jacob, Job, Elijah, David, Solomon, John the Baptist etc. are all prophets of Islam. Muhammed doesn't show up until about 570 CE, so pretty much everything pre-570 CE that pertains to the Abrahamic lineage is included in Islam. There is evidence of this as the Koran even includes a description a miracle of Jesus where he turns clay into birds that is included only in the Gnostic gospel of Thomas. Now, with Muhammed's arrival there is a true delineation, so for example (although you have expressed differences, I am just using it as an example) the Book of Mormon has no bearing or lineage aspects from a Islamic perspective. Of course, there are differences with how individual Muslims and Islamic teachers identify themselves. And the practice of modern Islam is vastly different from Christian practice, but I still think the identification of how a Muslim does it with regard to lineage and how a Christian does it with regard to lineage is very different. Thanks for the conversation.

Optimus, thanks for the reply. I would have to say that your view of Islamic belief is very Christian oriented. Jesus is an acknowledged prophet just as Moses, Elijah and Mohammed are. Their view of the Christian scriptures actually coincides very much with the view you expressed of the Hebrew scriptures from a Christian perspective. Actually, all the prophets, including Mohammed, are considered to be equal, Mohammed is simply God's last prophet, therefore he brought God's fullest Word (although they do believe Jesus will be the only prophet to come again, Mohammed is the last "new" one.) Once again, this distinction is many ways is most closely correlated with the distinction you expressed between the Hebrew Word and Christian Word (of course with a dramatic difference in Jesus' role) as seen from a Christian perspective. Further, with regard to what God is worshiped, I can argue that all Christians do not worship the same God either. The God worshiped by Orthodox Churches is vastly different than those by right-wing denominational Christians, with varying differences in the middle. In many ways, the Jesus between (at least Catholics) and a lot of Protestants (at least Presbyterian) is very different also. I had a fairly unique experience of growing up both in a Catholic and Presbyterian religious background simultaneously (I actually attended both Mass and service on the weekends) with no pressures from either direction. The path to salvation and practical application of Jesus' teaching, the experience of Jesus and His focus are entirely different. As you pointed with regard to the Abrahamic God, the characteristics are entirely different and at least as I read your point, therefore the Jesus is different also.

Islam is of the Abrahamic traditions and they actually acknowledge what would be considered the "Old and New Testaments," simply for them the Koran is the fullest of God's word. Islam also believe in a variation of your "Rupture" (sic), when Jesus will come again. It is the same God, just as Jews worship the same God as Christians. If you don't think so, perhaps you should take a gander at Genesis again and perhaps Wikipedia.

A lot emotional investment leading to dissonance in their mind. This then leads them to a crossroad: either their thought process (and therefore they) are wrong, or the system/jurors are wrong of the prosecution failed in some way. The easiest way to relieve the dissonance is to blame everyone else. It is very difficult to be introspective and lay bare one's faults to oneself. Honestly, I think things have gotten a bit easy in our society today, so anything that requires suffering is falling out of vogue, be that actually giving awards to children instead of participation "awards", maintaining frugal spending habits, self control with regard to diet and health, etc. Admitting one's faults causes suffering as well. I think one major culprit are the parents that started with the baby boomer generation where the goal was always to give a "better life than before" and the parents turned into what are termed helicopter parents, where they hover around their kids all the time and swoop in any moment a difficult arises. It's actually a huge issue in colleges when kids get out on their own and cannot handle life stressors because they have never really had to before.

+1 Thanks for the thorough reply. Will definitely read again.

Out of curiosity, what lead you to choose the Anglican Church over the Catholic Church? I have always found it odd that a Church that was founded Henry VIII desire for personal funding and religious authority to grant himself a divorce is odd and who's head is ordained through birthright and oftentimes do no want the responsibility in any way is also odd. Especially since they still keep very close ties with the Catholic Church and ordained members basically can move freely from one to another (for example, priests resigning from Anglican or Catholic Church do to specific philosophical differences and then joining the other Church.)