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He may also forever only play 40-60 games depending on if he can manage this injury.

That's not very nice sir lol

I mean you try and get rid of him but how they're set up now riding out the contract isn't the worst thing. Other than how abrupt (not their fault) all this has been they've killed it!

The best OKC could have done. I think it makes a lot of sense. Houston is so desperate. No way it works out for them.

I wouldn't bet on Wes starting at any point this year. We are too reliant on Fournier being our "get a bucket" guy. Until we can replace that Wes will manning the bench.

I think the whole small market, stars can't make money outside of basketball thing is overblown. It's just not true today's world. Plenty of stars in smaller markets who I see all over the place.

Birch will be lucky to even suit up every night let alone make an impact on the court barring injury. I've been a Birch fan since his college days but some of you guys are a bit delusional with the amount of playing time he's going to get.

I just can't see a 30 year old Vuch at 20+ being that attractive. A 26-27 year old Vuch at 12 wasn't even attractive. I think it's unlikely but hey maybe we swindle someone for once.

Sigh....

We stretched Moz to fill out the last two spots which includes Birch and who ever the last guy is right?

So why pay a guy who never cracks the rotation barring injury 3 mil a year which causes you to stretch Moz? This offseason just seems so short sited.

This is such a weird offseason. I'm not excite or optimistic about anything. If we do trade Bamba it has to be for a guard. Wonder who it could be this late into the offseason. If we wanted to trade Bamba why not just trade him? Maybe the plan is to trade Vuch or Birch next year while Bamba develops this year. Who knows? Again just a weird offseason.

Does anyone want to post a minute breakdown? I'm too lazy but would be interested in how everyone thinks the minutes shake out.

That's not really how this works...but I get what you're saying.

That's depressing...I don't see much success on any of those teams.

Which team could Westbrook realistically go to that makes sense for him and the team? He's my favorite player in the league and I would like to seem him end his career successfully.

I'm not for or against a trade for Westbrook but for those complaining about it killing our future, well yea that's kind of what happens when you go all in. The future would be now. If we signed Kawhi or George or AD or who ever else it would kill our future. We would be going all in. Now whether Westbrook is the right guy to go that route with is another discussion.

Huh? Our managment literally just made the same choice last week. Bamba is 21 Vuch is 28 Our management is certain Bamba won't workout.

Honestly the moment AG starts drawing fouls in the lane is the day he becomes a force. His biggest weakness to me at this point is taking advantage of his penetration without a clear shot to the basket. At times he did a horrible job at creating contact once under the rim. At the same time calls were ignored when they should have been made. I take back what I said about our style because if AG is able to conjure up 4-6 more points on average at the FT line the sky is the limit with or without Vuch.

Yea, pretty much were I stand. He has all the tools and work ethic but I'm not sure if our style will ever lend itself to him obtaining the numbers needed to reach the level of elite or recurring all star.

I don't think it's anymore wide open than it was last year to be honest. The one thing we shouldn't bet on is staying relatively injury free. Injuries happen and they happen sporadically. For those teams who do limit injuries they are they exception. Odds are we aren't lucky enough to be afforded that benefit two years in a row. I think we will still end up in the 6-8 range with a similar record plus or minus 5 games or so. Tier 1: Milwaukee, Sixers, Toronto(With Kawhi), Boston Tier 2: Indiana, Brooklyn Tier 3: Magic, Heat, Detroit, Toronto(without Kawhi), Miami Not much has changed from last year to me.

You're right. I may have been a bit off topic.

It just appears that his above averge offense and good/great defense aren't conducive to winning. Although they aren't similar players he's like the better version of Tobias or Gay. Miami may have not had another choice but that doesn't mean he isn't overrated from a league stand point. He may be worth max money but he will never win being the #1 guy.

Agreed. 3rd best player/fringe 2nd best player on a championship team.

Have the details of Vuch's deal been announced? What's taking so long? Or did I miss it?