Erik 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2008 D12 has played summer B-ball the past two years, not to mention he's played 82 games, and playoffs. Last season his backups were Foyle, Gortat, and Augustine Battie was hurt. This season we got Battie,Foyle,and Gortat. None of these guy's could score, there D is min., besides gortat there old,and min. playoff exp. Imo' the Magic have done a horrble job at getting D12 some help, he's gonna have to carry this team on his back both D-fnse and O-fnse, it's alot for a 22 year old stud to handle, we've had pleanty of oppurtunities to get help, last years exp., this year exp., plus Turk's avlue is sky high, but nadda. I know you Magic brown nozers are gonna say we got a championship team, but were still one good big away, god forbid D12 get's hurt, were screwd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erik 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2008 D12 has played summer B-ball the past two years, not to mention he's played 82 games, and playoffs. Last season his backups were Foyle, Gortat, and Augustine Battie was hurt. This season we got Battie,Foyle,and Gortat. None of these guy's could score, there D is min., besides gortat there old,and min. playoff exp. Imo' the Magic have done a horrble job at getting D12 some help, he's gonna have to carry this team on his back both D-fnse and O-fnse, it's alot for a 22 year old stud to handle, we've had pleanty of oppurtunities to get help, last years exp., this year exp., plus Turk's avlue is sky high, but nadda. I know you Magic brown nozers are gonna say we got a championship team, but were still one good big away, god forbid D12 get's hurt, were screwd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BRich 56 Report post Posted August 25, 2008 the FO has been ducking this PF/big man issue like the plague. I'd like to think they don't feel like Tony Battie completely fills that void...but then again, Otis brought in Brian Cook when he needed a big. Who knows what he's thinking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EnFuego 1 Report post Posted August 25, 2008 quote: Originally posted by Erik:D12 has played summer B-ball the past two years, not to mention he's played 82 games, and playoffs. Last season his backups were Foyle, Gortat, and Augustine Battie was hurt. This season we got Battie,Foyle,and Gortat. None of these guy's could score, there D is min., besides gortat there old,and min. playoff exp. Imo' the Magic have done a horrble job at getting D12 some help, he's gonna have to carry this team on his back both D-fnse and O-fnse, it's alot for a 22 year old stud to handle, we've had pleanty of oppurtunities to get help, last years exp., this year exp., plus Turk's avlue is sky high, but nadda. I know you Magic brown nozers are gonna say we got a championship team, but were still one good big away, god forbid D12 get's hurt, were screwd. You make a very good point that I tend to agree with and then you have to insult everyone like a 2 year old? Anyway, I'm worried about the wear and tear on Dwight. I still feel Penny was lost to too many games in a short amount of time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Natmayo 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2008 If any teams star player gets hurt, they're screwed. Its not just us. Bottom line is we have 5 bigs under contract. I think we need another SF or a Point than another big. We'd all like Garnett here or whoever, but bottom line is that were at the salary cap threshold, and that means we cant do anything money wise. And I dont want to hear that the Magic need to exceed the luxury cap. A successful business isnt one that just recklessly goes out and spends money for the sake of. Didnt work out for the Knicks and it wont for us. If theres a deal at the deadline, we may do something then when we know if Hedo will stay or go, but to go out and sign some scrub or blow our budget to get someone that has no clue what this team is doing is ludicrous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2008 Otis bring Carlos Boozer to the Magic somehow. Boozer and Howard would dominate the paint. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erik 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2008 I think this deal would help D12 out, you get a PF-C, who can knock down the outside shot, and you could move Shard to SF. You also get a SF with some size, who can score at the rim or outside. You get rid of Fran once and for all, and he could be reunited with his fellow Spainiards Fernandez,and Rodriguez. Incoming Players Channing Frye 6-11 C from Arizona No games yet played in 2007/08 Martell Webster 6-7 SG from Seattle Prep (HS) No games yet played in 2007/08 Outgoing Players Fran Vazquez 0-0 from No games yet played in 2007/08 Hedo Turkoglu 6-8 SF / SG from Turkey (Foreign) No games yet played in 2007/08 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erik 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2008 quote: Originally posted by Erik:I think this deal would help D12 out, you get a PF-C, who can knock down the outside shot, and you could move Shard to SF. You also get a SF with some size, who can score at the rim or outside. You get rid of Fran once and for all, and he could be reunited with his fellow Spainiards Fernandez,and Rodriguez. Incoming Players Channing Frye 6-11 C from Arizona No games yet played in 2007/08 Martell Webster 6-7 SG from Seattle Prep (HS) No games yet played in 2007/08 Outgoing Players Fran Vazquez 0-0 from No games yet played in 2007/08 Hedo Turkoglu 6-8 SF / SG from Turkey (Foreign) No games yet played in 2007/08 Starters --------------------- Nelson Pietrus Lewis Frye Howard Bench --------------- Johnson Redick Bogans Webster Cook Battie Gortat Bench Warmers -------------------- Foyle Lee ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erik 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2008 I'm all for this deal right here, it gives D12 lot's of help, gives us a backup SF, and a combo Guard, Nice! Players Quincy Douby 6-3 SG from Rutgers 4.8 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 0.7 apg in 11.8 minutes Francisco Garcia 6-7 SG / SF from Louisville 12.3 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 1.6 apg in 26.5 minutes Brad Miller 7-0 C from Purdue 13.4 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 3.7 apg in 34.9 minutes Outgoing Players Keith Bogans 6-4 SG from Kentucky 8.7 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 1.3 apg in 26.8 minutes Brian Cook 6-9 PF from Illinois 2.3 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 0.5 apg in 11.7 minutes Hedo Turkoglu 6-8 SF / SG from Turkey (Foreign) 19.5 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 5.0 apg in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erik 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2008 I know this may get old, especialy cause i'm smarter than our gm, but this deal might work also. Sac, is definatly a good trade partner for us, they got Pg's and bigs which we need. Quincy Douby 6-3 SG from Rutgers 4.8 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 0.7 apg in 11.8 minutes Francisco Garcia 6-7 SG / SF from Louisville 12.3 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 1.6 apg in 26.5 minutes Shelden Williams 6-9 PF from Duke 5.2 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 0.3 apg in 12.9 minutes Outgoing Players Fran Vazquez 0-0 from No games yet played in 2007-2008 Hedo Turkoglu 6-8 SF / SG from Turkey (Foreign) 19.5 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 5.0 apg in 36.9 minutes Starters ---------------- Nelson Pietrus Lewis Battie or Williams Howard Bench ----------------- Johnson Douby Lee Redick Bogans Garcia Cook Williams or Battie Gortat Foyle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites