The Road to the White House

[Marc Acres 3:16 418]

We had quite a few request's and with the election being only a few days away I'm reopening this thread.

 

Guys please just try to keep things civil.

[SmackDaddy 30]

I'm always civil. It's these other jokers that you need to worry about. lol

[Adam_Magic 56]

quote:

Originally posted by SmackDaddy:

I'm always civil. It's these other jokers that you need to worry about. lol

 

great start Smack.... lol!

[Ned Ryerson 94]

Boom! Now we're back up and running!

 

On that note: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCaOCWYpPk4

[KillingInTheNameOf 63]

quote:

Originally posted by WPMagic:

Boom! Now we're back up and running!

 

On that note: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCaOCWYpPk4

 

I would say McCain's spokesman is guilty of being stupid, not lying...Rev. Wright & Farrakan have pretty proud histories of anti-semitic rhetoric.

 

Yes, I'm aware Obama has denounced them...As Michelle Obama acknowledges, that's just a very unfortunate part of all this.

[Berto 338]

quote:

Originally posted by Marc Acres 3:16:

We had quite a few request's and with the election being only a few days away I'm reopening this thread.

 

Guys please just try to keep things civil.

 

THE LAW was overturned? What is this world coming to...

[Ned Ryerson 94]

quote:

Originally posted by Kberto:

quote:

Originally posted by Marc Acres 3:16:

We had quite a few request's and with the election being only a few days away I'm reopening this thread.

 

Guys please just try to keep things civil.

 

THE LAW was overturned? What is this world coming to...

 

Silly activist judges moderating from the bench.

[Berto 338]

I'll pose a question

 

Why is Obama not up 20+ points at this point?

 

Considering how tilted this environment is towards democrats,the rejection of Bush, the 600 million dollars raised by Obama, this election is still winnable for John McCain, even though he's run the most idiotic campaign i've ever seen. Why?

 

And this is a serious question. I'm not trying to be partison in anyway, i'd like to know what you guys think.

 

I have an opinion, but I'd rather not dig into it myself.

[DwightHoward1880 0]

he's not up more because he's black and hes got a funny name, very sad. but very true

[Natmayo 0]

quote:

Originally posted by Kberto:

I'll pose a question

 

Why is Obama not up 20+ points at this point?

 

Considering how tilted this environment is towards democrats,the rejection of Bush, the 600 million dollars raised by Obama, this election is still winnable for John McCain, even though he's run the most idiotic campaign i've ever seen. Why?

 

And this is a serious question. I'm not trying to be partison in anyway, i'd like to know what you guys think.

 

I have an opinion, but I'd rather not dig into it myself.

 

I dont know if the question of his associations are clicking in, or the fact that that a lot of people are questioning his lack of experience.

 

From the people I associate with, I believe that the two reasons that he hasn't run away with it is

 

A) The pick of Joe Biden. I really believe that if he had picked Hillary Clinton, this election would have been over at the convention. A lot of people that I deal with just dont like Biden.

 

B) The thought of increased power and influence of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. I think the thought of those two in a very influential role in our lives scares many people to death.

[Berto 338]

quote:

Originally posted by Natmayo:

quote:

Originally posted by Kberto:

I'll pose a question

 

Why is Obama not up 20+ points at this point?

 

Considering how tilted this environment is towards democrats,the rejection of Bush, the 600 million dollars raised by Obama, this election is still winnable for John McCain, even though he's run the most idiotic campaign i've ever seen. Why?

 

And this is a serious question. I'm not trying to be partison in anyway, i'd like to know what you guys think.

 

I have an opinion, but I'd rather not dig into it myself.

 

I dont know if the question of his associations are clicking in, or the fact that that a lot of people are questioning his lack of experience.

 

From the people I associate with, I believe that the two reasons that he hasn't run away with it is

 

A) The pick of Joe Biden. I really believe that if he had picked Hillary Clinton, this election would have been over at the convention. A lot of people that I deal with just dont like Biden.

 

B) The thought of increased power and influence of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. I think the thought of those two in a very influential role in our lives scares many people to death.

 

On your two points

 

First, I agree that picking Hillary would of clinched it, but I don't think Biden hurts him at all. He doesn't give him any points, but he doesn't lose any in my opinion.

 

On your second point, most people don't know who Pelosi or Reid are, so I can't see that being a factor. I think I saw a poll where only 9% of Americans knew who Nancy Pelosi was.

 

And I know a lot of Republicans love to point to the low approval rating of congress and try to equate that to Democrats, but I think that rating reflects on the distaste of Washington as a whole. If people really disapproved of Democrats in Congress, they wouldn't be on the verge of getting 60 Senators.

 

And just for the record, I think Pelosi and Reid have been incompetent to say the least. So by no means am I defending them.

[Ned Ryerson 94]

quote:

Originally posted by Kberto:

quote:

Originally posted by Natmayo:

quote:

Originally posted by Kberto:

I'll pose a question

 

Why is Obama not up 20+ points at this point?

 

Considering how tilted this environment is towards democrats,the rejection of Bush, the 600 million dollars raised by Obama, this election is still winnable for John McCain, even though he's run the most idiotic campaign i've ever seen. Why?

 

And this is a serious question. I'm not trying to be partison in anyway, i'd like to know what you guys think.

 

I have an opinion, but I'd rather not dig into it myself.

 

I dont know if the question of his associations are clicking in, or the fact that that a lot of people are questioning his lack of experience.

 

From the people I associate with, I believe that the two reasons that he hasn't run away with it is

 

A) The pick of Joe Biden. I really believe that if he had picked Hillary Clinton, this election would have been over at the convention. A lot of people that I deal with just dont like Biden.

 

B) The thought of increased power and influence of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. I think the thought of those two in a very influential role in our lives scares many people to death.

 

On your two points

 

First, I agree that picking Hillary would of clinched it, but I don't think Biden hurts him at all. He doesn't give him any points, but he doesn't lose any in my opinion.

 

On your second point, most people don't know who Pelosi or Reid are, so I can't see that being a factor. I think I saw a poll where only 9% of Americans knew who Nancy Pelosi was.

 

And I know a lot of Republicans love to point to the low approval rating of congress and try to equate that to Democrats, but I think that rating reflects on the distaste of Washington as a whole. If people really disapproved of Democrats in Congress, they wouldn't be on the verge of getting 60 Senators.

 

And just for the record, I think Pelosi and Reid have been incompetent to say the least. So by no means am I defending them.

 

I agree that it has nothing to do with Congress and Reid and Polosi. I also don't think it has anything to do with Biden. There are two main factors that I think are playing a role in keeping it somewhat close:

 

1) Obama's lack of experience.

 

2) Race. The reason I say this is if you were to look at all the claims towards Obama. I'm not talking about the obvious racism, but all of these economic claims like socialist, Marxist, etc. I mean, look at the last 10 pages of this thread and the discussion has been a lot about poor black people (I'm not calling Smack or KITNO or anyone else racist here, I'm just showing where the debate has led). How often does Obama talk about the actual poor anymore? Hell, look at his half hour spot the other day. Every family, including the black family, was middle class. You would think that John Edwards were running for president the way the discourse has gone. When is the last time Obama has, other then maybe a line here and there, really talked about Katrina? Yet, for some reason, the thought of the poor black American is being talked about...

 

Do we really think that, considering Jim Crow and desegregation and other horrible things weren't that long ago that the first black President would just waltz into the White House?