jrjr1229 9 Report post Posted June 26, 2014 All 3 are ridiculously young; Oladipo is the youngest of the 3 at 22. Think about that for a second... Offense can be developed, defense not as much, athleticism not at all. Passing can't be taught, if you can't pass then you just can't. Jason kid, magic, Stockton, Marc Jackson were all natural passer, passing make your teamstes way better, it is the way to go. Never said he'd be handling the ball. All you need him to do is fly down the court and cut to the basket. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay Magic 1,251 Report post Posted June 26, 2014 All 3 are ridiculously young; Oladipo is the youngest of the 3 at 22. Think about that for a second... Plus that is a tremendous amount of defense in that trio. Harkless is younger than Oladipo and so is the other Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Catman 380 Report post Posted June 26, 2014 Plus the magic could go after bledsoe at the point and pay him some cash. Definitely worth a shot. Bledsoe/oladipo/wiggins/harris/vuc Harkless, nelson oquinn as your main guys off the bench. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NittanyBuc 757 Report post Posted June 26, 2014 Harkless is younger than Oladipo and so is the other Typo, meant to say oldest, otherwise I'm contradicting my point. Good call. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrjr1229 9 Report post Posted June 26, 2014 This is completely false : Wiggins "Strengths: A freakishly gifted athlete with a remarkably smooth offensive game ... Just about impossible to guard at this level, due to his athletic ability ... Can effortlessly glide around any defender that plays up on him ... Quick first step, and very long strides ... Explosive athleticism ... Once in the paint he either leaps over the defense for a soft runner, or throws down an electric dunk; either way, it's generally a high-percentage shot ... Has great size for either wing position, with a frame that is capable of holding a good amount of weight ... Long wingspan, recently measured at 6'11" ... Fantastic shooter on the perimeter ... Already has NBA range ... Quick trigger, with beautiful shot mechanics ... If the ball isn't in his hands, he likes to spot up in the corner, where he can get off an open shot on cut the baseline for an alley-oop play ... Also has the ability to create separation off the dribble for a pull-up jumper ... Good passing instincts and court vision ... Defensively, he gets a lot of deflections ... Uses length and anticipation to come up with a lot of steals and blocks ... Father played in the NBA ... Extremely young, and will only get better in time ..." http://www.nbadraft.net/players/andrew-wiggins He can't create shot how does he get his pass off? Eventually you will rely on oladio to create offense, turnover will be right up there, He can't pass means, he can't create to get a good pass for teamstes. Different than turning the ball over. And he is not wade, wade can get to any where in the court, wiggins has trouble with his handling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NittanyBuc 757 Report post Posted June 26, 2014 you forgot to add Tyler Ingle 8/22/11 nice 3 year old scouting report Strengths: Off the charts run/jump athleticism … Lateral quickness and length also gives him great potential as a perimeter defender, along with versatility to guard both wing positions efficiently … Incredibly dangerous in transition opportunities, long strider with a quick first step, did a great job of scoring or getting fouled when getting out in transition … Shooting mechanics have improved greatly, with quickness enough to get his shot off under tight defense … Got to the FT stripe at a good rate, making 77.5% of his attempts … As an offensive rebounder, can keep possessions alive that very few others can due to his second jump and tremendous leaping ability … Challenged defensively at Kansas, often asked to guard the other teams leading scorer on the wing, doing an admirable job … Unselfish, will look for teammates and is an evolving playmaker … Spin move can become a major weapon in isolation, plus has shown a floater that over time could become a weapon … When being closely defended, his step back jumper has also been a move that is tough to guard … Plays with a quiet intensity and while some question his lack of emotion, also never gets to down … When he has been challenged, has shown an ability to step up to the challenge … Son of a former NBA player and an Olympic sprinter, has an understanding of the game and a knowledge of where to get to on the court … Conditioning is fantastic, played major minutes as a freshman and should be able to carry a solid work load immediately … Ability to run the floor is elite and ensures a certain level of success at NBA level … Very skinny but has the broad shoulders to add weight if he's determined to ... Showed an increased understanding of his role and got much lower on defense as the year progressed at Kansas, looks to be quite coachable ... Aside from a poor final tournament game, seemed to be playing his best basketball as the season came to a close, including a huge 40 plus point breakout performance against West Virginia ... Weaknesses: The biggest issue is whether or not Wiggins has the mental make up to maximize his immense physical gifts. While some scouts are extremely high on him, there are just as many that question his focus and passion for the game ... Often plays too upright on offense, which can get him off his base and lead to turnovers … Needs to work on moving without the ball, has a reputation of sometimes standing, ball watching … Defensive awareness is something he must work on, along with always running out to his spot and not relying completely on length, athleticism to challenge a player … Still needs to add upper body strength, had issues finishing around the basket and getting knocked off of his spot when defensive rebounding … Long range shot is still not overly consistent, sometimes turns his hand outward on follow through … Often loose with dribble, sometimes has the ball too high and gets exploited when double teamed … Some question his lack of assertiveness offensively, which calls into question his ability to be a primary option on a high level team … Battled inconsistency and struggled against physical defense, which could point to strength as well as a sign of shaky confidence … Should look to become a more vocal leader ... Too often settled for long range shots and did not venture out of his comfort zone enough, still has many things to learn in terms of creating mid range shots and counter moves … Had a difficult time establishing post position, something that could be a crucial next step to utilize his quickness and size as a wing at the next level ... Has been compared to Kobe Bryant, but the biggest difference appears to be the attention to detail. So far, granted Kobe's is extremely rare, Wiggins has been lacking in this area. Will he develop this critical aspect in order to polish his all around game to achieve greatness? Notes: Hype and expectations were enormous for his freshmen season, and he finished as a consensus 2nd Team All-American with averages of 17.1 ppg and 5.9 rpg … Even through ups and downs during his short time at Kansas, he showed glimpses of having exceptional potential as an NBA wing player … Born in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, Wiggins has done very well when representing Canada in International competitions, going 2-0 as part of the World Team in the Nike Hoop Summit, averaging 18.5 ppg and 8 rpg … Shows enough athleticism and versatility to possibly play both wing positions, could become a match-up nightmare … The sky is the limit for him, as he's been blessed with the type of athleticism that does not come along in every class. Considered by some as the best athlete to surface in 10 years, since LeBron James. Will he develop the work ethic to maximize those abilities is the question … A virtual lock as a top 3 pick with a chance to go first depending on who gets the selection ... 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Catman 380 Report post Posted June 26, 2014 you forgot to add Tyler Ingle 8/22/11 nice 3 year old scouting report Thats funny, because i quoted the report from 4/2014 Try reading closer next time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrjr1229 9 Report post Posted June 26, 2014 The league has changed, if you have skills like john wall, rose and Westbrook, you're truly special, those guys who are speedy fast with their dribble are the true prize, this is what seperates wiggins and exum. Exum is even more special. This is why we are not even talking about smart now as a pg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Catman 380 Report post Posted June 26, 2014 He can't create shot how does he get his pass off? Eventually you will rely on oladio to create offense, turnover will be right up there, He can't pass means, he can't create to get a good pass for teamstes. Different than turning the ball over. And he is not wade, wade can get to any where in the court, wiggins has trouble with his handling. Did you really just say wiggins cant create his own shots? Wow. Ok buddy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Catman 380 Report post Posted June 26, 2014 The league has changed, if you have skills like john wall, rose and Westbrook, you're truly special, those guys who are speedy fast with their dribble are the true prize, this is what seperates wiggins and exum. Exum is even more special. This is why we are not even talking about smart now as a pg. Who won the mvp again this year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrjr1229 9 Report post Posted June 26, 2014 Did you really just say wiggins cant create his own shots? Wow. Ok buddy. Oh yes buddy, don't know why you even question, all you gotta do is re read what I typed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrjr1229 9 Report post Posted June 26, 2014 Who won the mvp again this year? Why dun you google it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
