TheNameIsOrlando 310 Report post Posted November 29, 2018 57 minutes ago, ?4thewin said: He held Tatum to 11 points on 33% shooting Russell 3 points on 1 for 7 shooting 36 possessions Ross 10 points on 4 for 13 shooting Wall 5 points on 1 for 4 shooting over 31 possessions Dinwiddie 0 points 0 for 2 shooting over 20 possessions Last year held FVV to 11 points on 12 shots over 64 possessions Dinwiddie 9 points on 11 shots over 62 possessions Rozier 4 points on 4 shots in 49 possessions Lillard 7 points on 7 shots over 27 possessions That's not useless. It's just not something that makes sense to have in the game at all times. Great against Phoenix, let him take Booker out of the game and watch their offense collapse. Doesn't matter if Frank can't score or run an offense. But that doesn't really help you against Miami or Denver or Utah or San Antonio or Detroit. Let me rephrase. On a team still trying to find itself he serves less of a purpose than your typical developmental piece. He is the kind of guy a contender signs to bolster their bench. He won't play here and if he does he takes playing time away from I guys I rather get that time. At this time I don't see the fit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted November 29, 2018 1 hour ago, ?4thewin said: He held Tatum to 11 points on 33% shooting Russell 3 points on 1 for 7 shooting 36 possessions Ross 10 points on 4 for 13 shooting Wall 5 points on 1 for 4 shooting over 31 possessions Dinwiddie 0 points 0 for 2 shooting over 20 possessions Last year held FVV to 11 points on 12 shots over 64 possessions Dinwiddie 9 points on 11 shots over 62 possessions Rozier 4 points on 4 shots in 49 possessions Lillard 7 points on 7 shots over 27 possessions That's not useless. It's just not something that makes sense to have in the game at all times. Great against Phoenix, let him take Booker out of the game and watch their offense collapse. Doesn't matter if Frank can't score or run an offense. But that doesn't really help you against Miami or Denver or Utah or San Antonio or Detroit. Ok but in the meanwhile the elephant in the room (lack of offensive talent/pg) keeps getting fed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted November 29, 2018 1 hour ago, ?4thewin said: He held Tatum to 11 points on 33% shooting Russell 3 points on 1 for 7 shooting 36 possessions Ross 10 points on 4 for 13 shooting Wall 5 points on 1 for 4 shooting over 31 possessions Dinwiddie 0 points 0 for 2 shooting over 20 possessions Last year held FVV to 11 points on 12 shots over 64 possessions Dinwiddie 9 points on 11 shots over 62 possessions Rozier 4 points on 4 shots in 49 possessions Lillard 7 points on 7 shots over 27 possessions That's not useless. It's just not something that makes sense to have in the game at all times. Great against Phoenix, let him take Booker out of the game and watch their offense collapse. Doesn't matter if Frank can't score or run an offense. But that doesn't really help you against Miami or Denver or Utah or San Antonio or Detroit. Ok but in the meanwhile the elephant in the room (lack of offensive talent/pg) keeps getting fed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted November 29, 2018 13 minutes ago, TheNameIsOrlando said: Let me rephrase. On a team still trying to find itself he serves less of a purpose than your typical developmental piece. He is the kind of guy a contender signs to bolster their bench. He won't play here and if he does he takes playing time away from I guys I rather get that time. At this time I don't see the fit. I think you're looking at this as "what can he do for us today" instead of "what can he do for us eventually". It's like saying "why is Frazier on our bench if he can't help us and shouldn't get playing time over iwundu, Simmons, Ross, and Fournier?". It's not a "mission accomplished we have our young point guard" move. It's a "buy low on a guy who fits and has one elite skill" move. This wouldn't really change anything in terms of our desire to find a starting point guard or decent backup for this season. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted November 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Magicman28 said: Ok but in the meanwhile the elephant in the room (lack of offensive talent/pg) keeps getting fed. A move like this wouldn't preclude us from continuing to work on improving that. We wouldn't not look for a starting point guard next summer. We wouldn't stop looking for a better backup for this season. You don't give up anything of real consequence for him. He's a developmental piece like Frazier or briscoe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Okethree 76 Report post Posted November 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, ?4thewin said: I think you're looking at this as "what can he do for us today" instead of "what can he do for us eventually". It's like saying "why is Frazier on our bench if he can't help us and shouldn't get playing time over iwundu, Simmons, Ross, and Fournier?". It's not a "mission accomplished we have our young point guard" move. It's a "buy low on a guy who fits and has one elite skill" move. This wouldn't really change anything in terms of our desire to find a starting point guard or decent backup for this season. THIS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Okethree 76 Report post Posted November 29, 2018 34 minutes ago, Magicman28 said: WeHam loves length man I tell ya. I love it man they have a plan and are sticking to it! Most of all not making any head scratching desperation moves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNameIsOrlando 310 Report post Posted November 29, 2018 13 minutes ago, ?4thewin said: I think you're looking at this as "what can he do for us today" instead of "what can he do for us eventually". It's like saying "why is Frazier on our bench if he can't help us and shouldn't get playing time over iwundu, Simmons, Ross, and Fournier?". It's not a "mission accomplished we have our young point guard" move. It's a "buy low on a guy who fits and has one elite skill" move. This wouldn't really change anything in terms of our desire to find a starting point guard or decent backup for this season. You're probably right. I've just been so focused on this season and what can be done to improve us now in conjunction with the future that I can't focus on the small moves that help 2-3 years from now. Really want to do something for this year. The AG injury kind of spotlights how thin we are. Would like to fix that ASAP. Imagine if DJ misses significant time? Our season would be over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted November 29, 2018 Just now, ?4thewin said: A move like this wouldn't preclude us from continuing to work on improving that. We wouldn't not look for a starting point guard next summer. We wouldn't stop looking for a better backup for this season. You don't give up anything of real consequence for him. He's a developmental piece like Frazier or briscoe. Putting all our eggs in the free agency basket isn’t wise. I hope if we did get Frank, we’d still do something in season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted November 29, 2018 15 minutes ago, WarDamnMagic said: I love it man they have a plan and are sticking to it! Most of all not making any head scratching desperation moves. Sure but talent isn’t a bad thing to include in that plan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magicdoc1 261 Report post Posted November 29, 2018 15 hours ago, ?4thewin said: Zach Lowe suggested Ross and a second for Fultz. I'm hurt but I'm starting to come around to it I will take that in a heartbeat. Ross likely will be offered more than we can afford. We might just loose him for nothing. Lets be proactive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Okethree 76 Report post Posted November 29, 2018 16 minutes ago, Magicman28 said: Putting all our eggs in the free agency basket isn’t wise. I hope if we did get Frank, we’d still do something in season. Im hoping we swing a trade for dinwiddle, Deangelo Russell, fultz, or Lonzo. With kemba being the pope dream. I’ve started to shy away from Rozier as of recent... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
