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Just now, The Neighborhood Bully said:

Zaza's history doesn't make me want to give him the benefit of the doubt.

https://deadspin.com/maybe-just-get-zaza-pachulia-the-*****-out-of-here-1823333674

Yeah but history doesn't matter when you have it on tape.  On first glance i thought he fell on purpose. With multiple angles you can see why he fell.  End of story. 

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2 hours ago, Tank Vogel said:

 Nobody wants to see 88-86 games full of bricks and WWE antics.

This got me literally laughing. Love it. Miss that. 

 

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This narrative of hatred towards Zaza is well orchestrated.  I knew it was going to be like this immediately after I saw the play live.  It already reminded me of a Draymond Green suspension.  The narrative is to make the Warriors, once again, look like the bad guy.  They have yet again become a team that's magnified for what all other teams do.  

Before it was moving screens and Draymond Green's karate kicks.  Now, Zaza is the target.  I'm just happy its not someone of great importance to the team.  

The target audience of the anger are fans who despise the Warriors.  This mainly the bulk of Houston fans, Thunder fans, Lakers fans, Cleveland's racist fans, fans who hate Draymond Green who are league wide, LeBron fans, and fans who oddly hate Stephen Curry.  The nba should be getting traffic off using people's emotions against them.  So is youtube.  

 

 

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6 hours ago, Magicfan1987 said:

Nope,  you're wrong. Saying we should dirty the game up more doesn't do much for the longevity of athletes. At some point you have to protect your employees in the work place. If this was Jonathan Isaac or John Collins falling on Westbrook it'd be nothing but because it's a repeat offender people look into it and upon looking into it, it appears as though the typical logical reaction of bracing yourself when falling was ignored in effect lumbering himself to the ground with as much weight as possible. Then he runs off without looking back at the player he just slammed on. 

In order for it to be Jonathan Isaac he would have to be playing....and about 30 lbs heavier to even matter.

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9 hours ago, ML6 said:

Zaza has made a career out of being a goon.  I still remember how livid I was in my dorm room when he headbutted JRich.

A head butt from Zaza is like getting ran into by a Kenworth....dude has the largest head on planet earth.

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With a minute thirty left in a close game with the Pels this is the box score. Something stands out to me...

 

STARTERS MIN FG 3PT FT OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS
D. BenderPF 25 3-8 3-6 0-0 1 5 6 7 0 0 1 6 -3 9
T. WarrenSF 40 9-21 0-0 5-5 2 4 6 0 2 2 1 3 -9 23
A. LenC 21 0-1 0-0 1-2 0 2 2 2 1 0 1 6 +1 1
E. PaytonPG 35 7-17 0-1 2-2 4 3 7 5 2 0 4 2 -20 16
D. BookerSG 39 14-27 3-9 9-11 0 10 10 7 1 0 3 4 -1 40
BENCH MIN FG 3PT FT OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS
M. ChrissPF 18 3-5 1-2 0-1 1 4 5 0 0 3 3 6 -3 7
J. JacksonSF 28 6-14 0-2 8-11 5 6 11 1 1 0 0 3 +1 20
S. HarrisonPG 2 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 +6 0
T. DanielsSG 25 0-1 0-1 0-0 0 2 2 1 2 0 0 1 -7 0

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Read into it how you want, it's one game but the final box score: Payton -22 and Rondo the highest +/- for the Pels with +18

STARTERS MIN FG 3PT FT OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS
D. BenderPF 25 3-8 3-6 0-0 1 5 6 7 0 0 1 6 -3 9
T. WarrenSF 42 9-21 0-0 5-5 2 4 6 0 2 2 1 3 -11 23
A. LenC 21 0-1 0-0 1-2 0 2 2 2 1 0 1 6 +1 1
E. PaytonPG 36 7-17 0-1 2-2 4 3 7 5 2 0 5 3 -22 16
D. BookerSG 41 14-28 3-10 9-11 0 10 10 7 1 0 3 4 -3 40
BENCH MIN FG 3PT FT OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS
M. ChrissPF 18 3-5 1-2 0-1 1 4 5 0 0 3 3 6 -3 7
J. JacksonSF 30 6-15 0-3 8-11 6 6 12 1 1 0 0 3 -1 20
S. HarrisonPG 2 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 +6 0
T. DanielsSG 26 0-2 0-2 0-0 0 2 2 1 2 0 0 1 -9 0

 

STARTERS MIN FG 3PT FT OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS
A. DavisPF 39 16-29 0-1 21-26 8 9 17 3 1 5 1 3 +9 53
E. OkaforC 19 5-5 0-0 4-5 0 4 4 0 1 1 0 2 +8 14
R. RondoPG 36 2-9 0-2 2-2 0 5 5 12 0 0 5 3 +18 6
J. HolidayPG 33 8-13 1-2 3-4 0 3 3 7 2 1 3 4 +14 20
E. MooreSG 29 2-6 1-3 1-2 0 4 4 3 1 0 1 2 +4 6
BENCH MIN FG 3PT FT OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS
N. MiroticPF 25 4-13 2-9 0-0 0 8 8 1 1 1 0 1 +12 10
D. MillerSF 26 2-6 1-5 0-1 1 2 3 3 1 0 1 5 +2 5
W. LemonPG 5 1-1 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 -8 2
I. ClarkSG 21 2-8 2-5 0-0 0 1 1 0 0 0 2 1 -7 6
D. LigginsSG 7 1-1 1-1 0-0 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 -7 3

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The best player on the floor had 53/17/3/5 and had just a plus 9.  It's entirely meaningless unless your favorite player has a good night.  

If you are crowing about Payton having a bad night at 16/7/5 you are entirely misguided.  

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Just now, Murphy13 said:

It's entirely meaningless unless your favorite player has a good night.  

It's not the best stat but I don't think it's entirely meaningless.

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