2017 Official Offseason Thread

[Fultz4thewin 2,464]

There GM should be fired. They have had no brainer picks and still can't build a winning team.

 

Their GM has been in place for less than a year or a year and a half depending on if you consider Thibs or Newton their GM.

[magicblue 315]

There GM should be fired. They have had no brainer picks and still can't build a winning team.

 

If the picks they made were no brainers then why would you fire the GM? This is the problem with FA in the modern NBA, nobody is leaving money on the table to play in MN or Orlando. You've got to draft well, strategically add pieces and most importantly...be patient. Things don't work the way they used to and I'm not convinced the majority on this board understand that quite yet.

[Odin 137]

Their GM has been in place for less than a year or a year and a half depending on if you consider Thibs or Newton their GM.

 

And they will be fine. I would bet money that they are in the playoffs next year.

[Franchero MVP 391]

I don't know why you all are excited about boston.

 

Boston looks like crap. Chicago is just doing a good job playing worse because they don't have a competent point guard or coach.

 

Because we haven't sniffed the playoffs in 5 years and they have for a good amount of the last few years. Not only that -- even if they aren't title contenders, they're attractive destination for FAs who want to win and not go through a rebuild. I'd much rather have a future than the crap shoot we're in right now.

 

Everyone who is saying "oh he went after Millsap!" -- really? That means absolutely nothing. Might as well say "he went after Lebron and Durant!!". So what? No star FA is gonna come to a bottom feeding team. Rob was lazy with trying to make this team -- didn't combine players strengths and weaknesses, signed horrible veterans, and didn't address key positions of need. His idea of signing a max FA was bringing in a guy that's a final fit for a championship team and not a leader.

 

We couldn't attract game changing FAs because he failed to produce even a glimpse of a hard working team. The team has mostly been ill-fitting parts for most of the rebuild that can't seem to play together.

[Franchero MVP 391]

I'm not saying building a team is easy but damn, year 5 and we're almost as bad as we were in years 1-2? Good grief.

[JJZFL 619]

Said EXACTLY like every GM who should be fired. We didn't have luck....MAKE YOUR OWN LUCK! The Celts were in a much worse situation than us and in a short time they have made their own luck with worse picks than us too. This kind of thinking is what makes really bad teams and management. If I can't get Lebron every draft I have an out...come on. Trade up, down or out...make your own luck.

 

Great post. Way too many here are willing to excuse indefinite losing because they say the strategy is to lose until you get your LeBron. That strategy will work about every 50 years or so. Long before that your team will have found a better location.

[Fultz4thewin 2,464]

Because we haven't sniffed the playoffs in 5 years and they have for a good amount of the last few years. Not only that -- even if they aren't title contenders, they're attractive destination for FAs who want to win and not go through a rebuild. I'd much rather have a future than the crap shoot we're in right now.

 

Everyone who is saying "oh he went after Millsap!" -- really? That means absolutely nothing. Might as well say "he went after Lebron and Durant!!". So what? No star FA is gonna come to a bottom feeding team. Rob was lazy with trying to make this team -- didn't combine players strengths and weaknesses, signed horrible veterans, and didn't address key positions of need. His idea of signing a max FA was bringing in a guy that's a final fit for a championship team and not a leader.

 

We couldn't attract game changing FAs because he failed to produce even a glimpse of a hard working team. The team has mostly been ill-fitting parts for most of the rebuild that can't seem to play together.

 

1. They're attractive to free agents because they're boston. We're not boston.

 

2. If all it took to get great free agents was hard work and making the playoffs Memphis would be the number one free agent destination this summer.

 

3. You're upset because we failed. But Boston's path isn't easily replicable. They pulled one over on a desperate Brooklyn team, dumped a bunch of players for future picks. then they had the perfect team to integrate Thomas into and a team that was tanking for them so they could push further into the playoffs without having to hurt their draft selections. It's easy to justify dumping a bunch of money on Horford when you have a top 5 pick coming regardless of what you do.

 

But if you go back and game out the possibilities in free agency there's not a better route that we could have taken. The smart move would have been take Harris and oladipo and that pick and come up with a better move. But I'm not sure what that move is. George Hill?

 

And even then, in hindsight this season might have been a blessing if we nail this pick.

 

Or we might hire the best option at GM. Make the best pick at wherever we pick. Make the best moves presented to us in free agency. Float around the 7th-10th seed for a few years then bottom out again. Because sometimes you can make smart moves and still fail. Sometimes every path forward is Failure. Sometimes every move on the board is a losing move. If a great player isn't in our cards we're not getting very far. People don't like this reality but its still reality.

[magicblue 315]

Great post. Way too many here are willing to excuse indefinite losing because they say the strategy is to lose until you get your LeBron. That strategy will work about every 50 years or so. Long before that your team will have found a better location.

 

Yeah. We need to overpay guys like Iggy and Barnes so that we can compete for the 8th seed year in and year out.

[Fultz4thewin 2,464]

Great post. Way too many here are willing to excuse indefinite losing because they say the strategy is to lose until you get your LeBron. That strategy will work about every 50 years or so. Long before that your team will have found a better location.

 

the strategy isn't lose until you get LeBron. it's lose until you get a solid player that you can build around. So Lebron, Curry, Durant, Westbrook, Harden, Anthony Davis, Lillard, Cousins (in a vacuum), Kawhi, Kyrie Irving, Towns, Jimmy Butler, Paul George, Kemba, John Wall, Giannis, Kyle Lowry, Mike Conley, Chris Paul, wiggins, etc.

 

Once you get that you can stop tanking. Because you now have a foundational piece that you can plan around.

[rekraprovert 6]

the strategy isn't lose until you get LeBron. it's lose until you get a solid player that you can build around. So Lebron, Curry, Durant, Westbrook, Harden, Anthony Davis, Lillard, Cousins (in a vacuum), Kawhi, Kyrie Irving, Towns, Jimmy Butler, Paul George, Kemba, John Wall, Giannis, Kyle Lowry, Mike Conley, Chris Paul, wiggins, etc.

 

Once you get that you can stop tanking. Because you now have a foundational piece that you can plan around.

 

Very disheartening how many of those guys we could have drafted, but overlooked them all.

[Fultz4thewin 2,464]

Very disheartening how many of those guys we could have drafted, but overlooked them all.

 

1?

[TheNameIsOrlando 310]

1?

 

Thats funny.