Years of Tragic and Magic 13 Report post Posted March 17, 2016 Skiles said he would've started Jennings even if Payton was available. As long as Watson doesn't get those minutes. People talk about Payton bringing nothing to the offense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted March 17, 2016 Cut it to 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted March 17, 2016 Came just short of the comeback. Bad 8 minute stretch killed us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted March 17, 2016 Nicholson-Hezonja-marble-Oladipo-Watson ended the game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNameIsOrlando 310 Report post Posted March 17, 2016 2-11 from Smith...He is useless if he isnt hitting shots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magicjed23 12 Report post Posted March 17, 2016 We have to decide not to allow 3's to beat us. Skiles needs to adjust to his players a bit and let's give them contested 2's for a change. Quit double teaming every possession and play it straight up. Sure we will give up some, but leads won't explode so quickly. Especially during scoring runs by opponents. 3's fuel offense in today's NBA, even Skiles knows this because they have our team making an effort to shoot more ourselves. Coach needs to realize that maybe he expects individuals to do too much on every play defensively. Even the best defensive teams play it straight up often because teams want to shoot 3's. Teams do this to us alot. Let Vucevic or whoever do what they want and play him straight up. Even the best offensive players miss half of their shots. Surprise them with double teams, because right now they just wait for it and swing the ball cross court to a wide open shooter or pass it around until they find a shooter that the help defender doesn't get back to in time, if at all. Yes, giving up 2's hurts, but a barrage of 3's is demoralizing. We are extremely predictable. We have smart players even though Skiles likes to say that they don't understand what to do. Maybe trust them a bit more and try something else. I think that if Skiles cannot be more creative, he should be let go after the season. He is unreasonable, especially to young guys, who have not yet learned how to conserve the energy for such demands defensively. It's not the mindset of today's players, and takes a long time to learn and most never learn it. Good veterans know when to turn it on and how to have energy to sustain a semblance of good team defense the rest of the game. In the 80's and 90's you could play aggressive and push people around on D so that mindset was common. If you so much as play any defense, every bump or tap is a foul. Very quickly you get in trouble foul wise and you have to sit and break your game rhythm. Veterans have an easier time overcoming this than young guys like we have. Plus add that to the fact that Skiles has such a short leash which compounds the problem. It's easy to see why our guys are so slow to improve. We went the polar opposite of JV, when we need a teacher who is not so heavy handed. SVG was that guy, but we fired him for no real reason. Skiles is not the guy. We have made one player better, Fourier, but asked the players we are building on to remodel their games entirely. It is glaringly obvious in the way Payton has regressed and how Tobias was dragged down. To an extent, it has not helped Vic and Vuc because they have just now begun to adapt to Skiles. But those growing pains were a root cause of the ungodly horrific January swoon. If we don't adjust, we will lose. Yes, players must execute, but the coaches are definitely not without fault. Another note. Games like this show how far AG still has to go, as this happens almost every other game with him. Hezonja has hit a wall. It's just too much for him to give the needed energy to be the 2-way player he is expected to become. This summer he has got to be stronger and in much better condition. He should not have this much trouble making open shots with great form. As young as AG, Mario, and our team is, they do not have unlimited energy no matter what coach thinks. Players get tired. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted March 17, 2016 2-11 from Smith...He is useless if he isnt hitting shots. Yeah. He really shouldn't be playing more than 16 mpg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franchero MVP 391 Report post Posted March 17, 2016 Skiles isn't the only problem but yes his defensive scheme is utter trash. I still think he should be fired asap because it's inevitable, but that's just me. Not that it would have mattered but why is our second best player riding the bench? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted March 17, 2016 Skiles isn't the only problem but yes his defensive scheme is utter trash. I still think he should be fired asap because it's inevitable, but that's just me. Not that it would have mattered but why is our second best player riding the bench? Gordon had two quick fouls then played like he didn't want a third. It was the right move to bench him tonight Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Years of Tragic and Magic 13 Report post Posted March 17, 2016 Skiles isn't the only problem but yes his defensive scheme is utter trash. I still think he should be fired asap because it's inevitable, but that's just me. Not that it would have mattered but why is our second best player riding the bench? Hiring a so called Defensive minded coach with an outdated scheme is unacceptable. Henny better get his next coaching hire right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted March 17, 2016 Hiring a so called Defensive minded coach with an outdated scheme is unacceptable. Henny better get his next coaching hire right. Tony Bennett ftw! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franchero MVP 391 Report post Posted March 17, 2016 Gordon had two quick fouls then played like he didn't want a third. It was the right move to bench him tonight For the rest of the game though? Couldn't he just have laid into him and let him know he needed to up his play? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
