Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted July 8, 2014 [/size] Yet you fawn all over Marion. Marbury was on multiple all-nba third teams as well. But he was a psychotic jerk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Neighborhood Bully 266 Report post Posted July 8, 2014 But he was a psychotic jerk. My bad, I thought we were debating basketball skills, not mental disorders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted July 8, 2014 My bad, I thought we were debating basketball skills, not mental disorders. When you get told to stay away from the team during the peak of your career that's an issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Secretly Space Jesus 670 Report post Posted July 8, 2014 Kevin Love has a higher career PER than John Stockton, and his PER is only 1 point lower than Magic Johnson's. PER has value and is useful in comparing people to their contemporaries, but like any other statistic, it's important to understand what it attempts to do and what its limitations are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Neighborhood Bully 266 Report post Posted July 8, 2014 When you get told to stay away from the team during the peak of your career that's an issue. That's completely irrelevant to my original post that stated Marion was the beneficiary of some good point guard play from Kidd, Starbury, and Nash. The off court issues happened later in his career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Neighborhood Bully 266 Report post Posted July 8, 2014 Kevin Love has a higher career PER than John Stockton, and his PER is only 1 point lower than Magic Johnson's. PER has value and is useful in comparing people to their contemporaries, but like any other statistic, it's important to understand what it attempts to do and what its limitations are. I agree with that, which is why I compared Kidd with Starbury. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CTMagicUK 1,482 Report post Posted July 8, 2014 That's completely irrelevant to my original post that stated Marion was the beneficiary of some good point guard play from Kidd, Starbury, and Nash. The off court issues happened later in his career. Karl Malone was the beneficiary of good point guard play. Is he not a star? What about Blake Griffin? Dirk has played with Steve Nash and Kidd as well is he not a star? There are plenty of players who played with Nash who didn't put up 20 and 10 with a couple of assists, a steal and a block a game but Marion does and he's just a product of his pg? I don't get it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted July 8, 2014 That's completely irrelevant to my original post that stated Marion was the beneficiary of some good point guard play from Kidd, Starbury, and Nash. The off court issues happened later in his career. Ah. I thought you were trying to say Marbury was better than Kidd. Back on topic: good point guard play doesn't spontaneously turn a player into an Allstar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magicblue 315 Report post Posted July 8, 2014 Is this still the summer league thread? Just making sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joseph_Kuhr 61 Report post Posted July 8, 2014 Is this still the summer league thread? Just making sure. thread nazi coming through. p.s. nobody in their right mind is watching today anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joseph_Kuhr 61 Report post Posted July 8, 2014 Karl Malone was the beneficiary of good point guard play. Is he not a star? What about Blake Griffin? Dirk has played with Steve Nash and Kidd as well is he not a star? There are plenty of players who played with Nash who didn't put up 20 and 10 with a couple of assists, a steal and a block a game but Marion does and he's just a product of his pg? I don't get it. wowzerz. karl malone would not be my point of focus in this debate if I were you my friend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magicblue 315 Report post Posted July 8, 2014 p.s. nobody in their right mind is watching today anyway. Why is that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
